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I started in 5th and have never seen an entire range go away

Renegades and Heretics.

Elysian Drop Troopers.

And they have no update in sight, I for one welcome our new Primaris Overlords.

I will be starting my Primaris army with the Shadowspear box. I will be splitting it with my dad, He'll be taking the chaos portion, I the Primaris. I'm very excited.

The whole reason that GW released Primaris the way they did was because they plan on keeping standard marines too. Too many players have invested in standard marines over the years to be alienated. That's why there are 71 standard marine datasheets in Codex SM. That's why Primaris and standard marines can't share transports. Sure GW may only release new Primaris models going forward, but I'm certain the rules for standard marines will remain. That way GW gets to focus investment on new Primaris miniatures but only has to spend a relatively small amount of money maintaining the rules for standard marines in order to keep existing players happy and to continue to sell the existing product lines. And of course, all the time they continue to sell standard marines (the Start Collecting! box for example) they are creating brand new players to alienate if they did ever want to squat them, so I just don't see it happening.

I only use a Squad of Intercessors as sort of an overpriced meat shield regularly.
I like Hellblasters and Inceptors, but usually I use normal marine options instead.
I hate all the HQs since they can't be customized in terms of load out.

I play Salamanders and they're just not very compatible with any of the Primaris aside from flame Aggressors, but I don't really like those guys rules wise - the double tap rule is just really awkward to use with flamers.

BrianDavion wrote:

 Ishagu wrote:
Who says they are going away, seriously?

I imagine they'll be fully supported with rules for the next 10+ years at the bare minimum!!

Beyond that? Well...
Nothing lasts forever. You have to accept that. One day Primaris might be in the same position. That's fine, we have to move on. If things didn't change, evolve or get replaced it would be awful.

Your reaction is emotional and not logical. I'll PayPal you 50 quid if standard Marines have no rules in the next 3 years lol

this, it's safe to assume the phase out, if it ever fully happens will be VERY slow. we're not going toi see old marines suddenly disapper in an edition.

In terms of rules, I think you're right. I don't think the datasheets for oldmarines are going anywhere for a long time yet. My fear is that we can't say the same thing for the oldmarine product line. I actually love Primaris, and I'm totally on board for adopting them at some point in the future, but I still have a ton of oldmarine stuff I want to buy before I consider my current project finished, and my fear is that the decision has already been made not to do any more print reruns for some of the stuff on my wishlist, so that once it's gone, it's gone!

 Sir Heckington wrote:

I started in 5th and have never seen an entire range go away

Renegades and Heretics.

Elysian Drop Troopers.

And they have no update in sight, I for one welcome our new Primaris Overlords.

I will be starting my Primaris army with the Shadowspear box. I will be splitting it with my dad, He'll be taking the chaos portion, I the Primaris. I'm very excited.

To be fair, RnH and elysians arent apples to apple comparison. Those two were mainly lore only and the models were developed by FW by popular demand.

 TechnoWitch wrote:
Primaris marines, and the path 8th edition has been taking, almost killed my interest in Warhammer completely, until people I know with similar feelings started getting into Horus Heresy. Thanks to 30k I now have about 3,000 more points of models.

Why? Standard marines haven't gone anywhere in 8th edition.

Redemptor is quite solid after ca.

It is rapidly approaching "Everything but Pedro" for my Crimson Fists. If the Fire Support Jump Pack dudes pan out along with the Eliminators, I might be removing my Lascannon Devastators. As of right now, about 75% of my army is Primaris. The small squads paired with Crimson Fists Chapter Tactics leads to me getting my bonus to hit easier, while still having dudes with two wounds running around.

Zero for me. I've 3.5k of Ultramarines, not too interested in mixing old and primaris. Though someday I may get some primaris and do an all-primaris army of some kind or another. Maybe they will come out with a better DT for them than that ridiculous Repulsor. We'll see!

 Brother Castor wrote:

 TechnoWitch wrote:
Primaris marines, and the path 8th edition has been taking, almost killed my interest in Warhammer completely, until people I know with similar feelings started getting into Horus Heresy. Thanks to 30k I now have about 3,000 more points of models.

Why? Standard marines haven't gone anywhere in 8th edition.

It's pretty obvious that Primaris Marines are gonna replace them in the coming editions. As I mentioned earlier the most likely scenario is that they'll end up crappy rules pdf rules or something like that, like the armies in age of sigmar that were squatted, and get zero additional support. I don't like the prospect of an army I started collecting about a year before primaris marines were announced being made basically obsolete in the near future. If they just released a line of larger scaled marines I wouldn't have had a problem, but since it's a new army and units that are clearly meant to replace mine it just completely turns me off. I could probably do some count as in the future but I could see some people having problems since my classic marines will technically exist as units still in the game, and if the vehicles follow the trend of being skimmers I can't really use my current ones as them. The fact that my classic marines are most likely always gonna be supported in 30k was a big factor for me getting into it, and gives me motivation to still buy them.

 TechnoWitch wrote:
It's pretty obvious that Primaris Marines are gonna replace them in the coming editions.

I'll believe it's "obvious" they're going to do that once they are able to step foot in to a rhino. The fact that GW explicitly excluded primaris marines from being able to do many of the things non-primaris marines can do, and have explicitly limited the roles of primaris marines, makes it obvious to me they're NOT going to replace, but supplement.

 TechnoWitch wrote:

It's pretty obvious that Primaris Marines are gonna replace them in the coming editions. As I mentioned earlier the most likely scenario is that they'll end up crappy rules pdf rules or something like that ... The fact that my classic marines are most likely always gonna be supported in 30k was a big factor for me getting into it, and gives me motivation to still buy them.

So you skipped 8th edition on the off chance that they wouldn't be supported in 9th

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
It is rapidly approaching "Everything but Pedro" for my Crimson Fists. If the Fire Support Jump Pack dudes pan out along with the Eliminators, I might be removing my Lascannon Devastators. As of right now, about 75% of my army is Primaris. The small squads paired with Crimson Fists Chapter Tactics leads to me getting my bonus to hit easier, while still having dudes with two wounds running around.

Then you only need to convert a Primaris Pedro!

 Brother Castor wrote:

 TechnoWitch wrote:

It's pretty obvious that Primaris Marines are gonna replace them in the coming editions. As I mentioned earlier the most likely scenario is that they'll end up crappy rules pdf rules or something like that ... The fact that my classic marines are most likely always gonna be supported in 30k was a big factor for me getting into it, and gives me motivation to still buy them.

So you skipped 8th edition on the off chance that they wouldn't be supported in 9th

I didn't really skip it, I played it a lot until early last summer and even started a new Drukhari army last spring, and I still play it every once in awhile. I just kinda gave up on my Blood angels in it. I'm also just kinda bored of 8th and don't really enjoy the rules that much, outside of the occasional Cities of Death game. Like primaris marines are just one factor in me not playing it much, if this editions ruleset were better I would just have expanded my dark eldar more.

 TechnoWitch wrote:

 Brother Castor wrote:

 TechnoWitch wrote:

It's pretty obvious that Primaris Marines are gonna replace them in the coming editions. As I mentioned earlier the most likely scenario is that they'll end up crappy rules pdf rules or something like that ... The fact that my classic marines are most likely always gonna be supported in 30k was a big factor for me getting into it, and gives me motivation to still buy them.

So you skipped 8th edition on the off chance that they wouldn't be supported in 9th

I didn't really skip it, I played it a lot until early last summer and even started a new Drukhari army last spring, and I still play it every once in awhile. I just kinda gave up on my Blood angels in it. I'm also just kinda bored of 8th and don't really enjoy the rules that much, outside of the occasional Cities of Death game. Like primaris marines are just one factor in me not playing it much, if this editions ruleset were better I would just have expanded my dark eldar more.

Fair enough.

 TechnoWitch wrote:
I could probably do some count as in the future but I could see some people having problems since my classic marines will technically exist as units still in the game, and if the vehicles follow the trend of being skimmers I can't really use my current ones as them.

This is exactly why I would expect rules "support" to continue long after the models themselves have gone to No Longer Available. They don't want you to be able to use your old marines as primaris. There are a lot of old bolter marines out there, outnumbering every other model GW has ever produced by a large margin, and as long as they have rules separate from primaris you can't use them as counts as.