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Made in ch
The Dread Evil Lord Varlak





DeathKorp_Rider wrote:
A couple of minor things:
- Plague Claws are not listed under the melee weapons and have no point value (1 per. btw)
- There is no Ranged Weapon list


Lol, seriously forgot the plague claws
Feck

The ranged weapons list atm isn't in there because i may or may not intend to give some weapons out for Champions.

Edit :
The ranged weapons list will surely include the following :
Bolter, boltpistol, Lasgun / autogun, laspistol /autopistol, Plasmapistol


This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2019/03/23 23:13:40


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A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.  
   
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The Wastes of Krieg

Also, not a big point but I was still curious if people were still in the boat for the Apostate Preachers?
   
Made in ch
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DeathKorp_Rider wrote:
Also, not a big point but I was still curious if people were still in the boat for the Apostate Preachers?


Working on it,

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.  
   
Made in us
Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot





The Wastes of Krieg

One other thing, is the heavy stubber supposed to be in both the special weapons and heavy weapons liar?
   
Made in ch
The Dread Evil Lord Varlak





DeathKorp_Rider wrote:
One other thing, is the heavy stubber supposed to be in both the special weapons and heavy weapons liar?


Yep, it is both a special and heavy weapon.

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.  
   
Made in us
Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot





The Wastes of Krieg

Okay, just had to be sure.
   
Made in ch
The Dread Evil Lord Varlak





DeathKorp_Rider wrote:
Okay, just had to be sure.


The list is basically the one out of IA 13, i don't see an issue with it that way, but it was one reason I curbed the access of special weapons a bit for militia, (3stubbers on a 10 squad would've been a bit excessive)
   
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U.k

Reading your list there reminded me of why I never got on too well with the old r+h list, too many options. I know this is just my opinion but the current one has too few options for creating your ideal theme and the old one has too many and was too complex. I would prefer a middle ground where the rules were generic enough but varied enough. I know this isn’t very helpful and all a bit Goldilocks of me but thought I’d comment on it. Maybe there is a way to streamline the rules so you don’t need a flow chart to pick your army. .??
   
Made in ch
The Dread Evil Lord Varlak





Andykp wrote:
Reading your list there reminded me of why I never got on too well with the old r+h list, too many options. I know this is just my opinion but the current one has too few options for creating your ideal theme and the old one has too many and was too complex. I would prefer a middle ground where the rules were generic enough but varied enough. I know this isn’t very helpful and all a bit Goldilocks of me but thought I’d comment on it. Maybe there is a way to streamline the rules so you don’t need a flow chart to pick your army. .??


Complex? I mean get the demagogue and marks you like, done.
it's no other than army traits imo.

What really needs to happen sometime is some propper formating though

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2019/04/05 11:01:16


https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.  
   
Made in ch
The Dread Evil Lord Varlak





And sent it to FW, which surprisngly today did send me a email back.

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.  
   
Made in us
Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot





The Wastes of Krieg

Unless the rules become official I'm SoL. My friends insist I have to use official rules... Which sucks since they play all the mainstream armies like Custodes and Dark Angels which have support.
   
Made in ch
The Dread Evil Lord Varlak





DeathKorp_Rider wrote:
Unless the rules become official I'm SoL. My friends insist I have to use official rules... Which sucks since they play all the mainstream armies like Custodes and Dark Angels which have support.


I mean, i threathened them to clear up their mess and fix their rules or refund me for my e-book,
First time i got an answer out of FW part of them.
And it was fast.

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.  
   
Made in us
Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot





The Wastes of Krieg

Did they say anything hopeful?
   
Made in ch
The Dread Evil Lord Varlak





DeathKorp_Rider wrote:
Did they say anything hopeful?


Well for one they defered me to the Epub part of their team and they would take my complaint to the rules team, which is as stated before quite alot more then until now.

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.  
   
 
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