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2019/03/14 15:34:28
Subject: GW At GAMA.
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Fixture of Dakka
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Geifer wrote:
In a way I like the Kirby era better. Things were dire, but GW had real economic reasons to implement change, hopefully for the better. The current model, on the other hand, is so successful that GW would be foolish to try something new. Which sucks for people like me who aren't happy with how their games are released. Nothing that can be done about it, though.
The great oddity I've seen as of late is that while GW sales have been fantastic, I don't see many people playing games. It feels like people are mostly just overloading their piles of shame right now.
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2019/03/14 15:55:05
Subject: GW At GAMA.
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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...yeah, we are >_>
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2019/03/14 15:57:55
Subject: GW At GAMA.
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Huge Bone Giant
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LunarSol wrote: Geifer wrote:
In a way I like the Kirby era better. Things were dire, but GW had real economic reasons to implement change, hopefully for the better. The current model, on the other hand, is so successful that GW would be foolish to try something new. Which sucks for people like me who aren't happy with how their games are released. Nothing that can be done about it, though.
The great oddity I've seen as of late is that while GW sales have been fantastic, I don't see many people playing games. It feels like people are mostly just overloading their piles of shame right now.
We are decidedly not!
*inconspicuously shoves unopened Wrath and Rapture under the bed*
No sir!
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Nehekhara lives! Sort of!
Why is the rum always gone? |
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2019/03/14 16:22:30
Subject: GW At GAMA.
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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Geifer wrote: LunarSol wrote: Geifer wrote:
In a way I like the Kirby era better. Things were dire, but GW had real economic reasons to implement change, hopefully for the better. The current model, on the other hand, is so successful that GW would be foolish to try something new. Which sucks for people like me who aren't happy with how their games are released. Nothing that can be done about it, though.
The great oddity I've seen as of late is that while GW sales have been fantastic, I don't see many people playing games. It feels like people are mostly just overloading their piles of shame right now.
We are decidedly not!
*inconspicuously shoves unopened Wrath and Rapture under the bed*
No sir!
Putting it under with all the “source material” for skin tones huh?
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LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 |
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2019/03/14 16:42:40
Subject: Re:GW At GAMA.
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Huge Bone Giant
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That's totally scientific research!
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Nehekhara lives! Sort of!
Why is the rum always gone? |
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2019/03/14 16:43:22
Subject: GW At GAMA.
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Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos
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How else do you get into the mindset to play Slaanesh?
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2000 Khorne Bloodbound (Skullfiend Tribe- Aqshy)
1000 Tzeentch Arcanites (Pyrofane Cult - Hysh) in progress
2000 Slaves to Darkness (Ravagers)
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2019/03/14 17:03:00
Subject: GW At GAMA.
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Calculating Commissar
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I think my pile of unbuilt plastic is now decidedly a fire risk... :/
Polystyrene and card burns well
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ChargerIIC wrote:If algae farm paste with a little bit of your grandfather in it isn't Grimdark I don't know what is. |
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2019/03/14 17:19:15
Subject: GW At GAMA.
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
Vigo. Spain.
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At this point when I die I hope they burn me with all my unbuild and unpainted miniatures in a boat, so I can finish them in Valhalla.
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Crimson Devil wrote:
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote:Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
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2019/03/14 17:23:02
Subject: GW At GAMA.
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Calculating Commissar
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Galas wrote:At this point when I die I hope they burn me with all my unbuild and unpainted miniatures in a boat, so I can finish them in Valhalla.
Don't forget that they must lay your weapons alongside your trophies: a chipped hobby knife; a pair of clippers, the tips twisted; an old paintbrush, with the last few remaining bristles. The tools of a warrior who went out fighting.
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ChargerIIC wrote:If algae farm paste with a little bit of your grandfather in it isn't Grimdark I don't know what is. |
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2019/03/14 20:02:26
Subject: GW At GAMA.
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Fixture of Dakka
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“When I die, my worst fear is that my wife sells my stuff for what I told her I paid for it”
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2019/03/14 20:52:03
Subject: GW At GAMA.
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Been Around the Block
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These times are infinitely better than the Kirby times
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2019/03/14 22:09:07
Subject: GW At GAMA.
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Dakka Veteran
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I just wish GW would stop using the excuse "we're a miniature company not a game company" for their shoddy rules.
Seriously what game company hires fiction novel writers to write their rules instead of game designers? it's a mind bogglingly terrible idea and it shows.
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2019/03/14 22:31:37
Subject: GW At GAMA.
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Danny slag wrote:I just wish GW would stop using the excuse "we're a miniature company not a game company" for their shoddy rules.
Seriously what game company hires fiction novel writers to write their rules instead of game designers? it's a mind bogglingly terrible idea and it shows.
Outside of straight min max tournament settings that generally break anything they touch, how bad is it really.
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Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
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2019/03/14 23:47:25
Subject: GW At GAMA.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Danny slag wrote:I just wish GW would stop using the excuse "we're a miniature company not a game company" for their shoddy rules.
Seriously what game company hires fiction novel writers to write their rules instead of game designers? it's a mind bogglingly terrible idea and it shows.
They already stopped using that excuse. Noone has said it since the Kirby era. Also Warhammer Underworlds is probably the best balanced rule set they have ever done. Killteam has a solid rule set. Bloodbowl, adeptus Titanicus and the newest version of lotr are all pretty well regarded. I haven't played Blackstone fortress but it has an 8.5 rating over on boardgamegeek which is pretty good by their standards.
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2019/03/14 23:49:03
Subject: GW At GAMA.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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It's not a pile of shame, it's an extensive sprue-based bits box.
And I'll add to it.
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Looking for a Skaven Doomwheel banner to repair my Nurgle knights. |
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2019/03/15 01:44:22
Subject: GW At GAMA.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Danny slag wrote:Seriously what game company hires fiction novel writers to write their rules instead of game designers? it's a mind bogglingly terrible idea and it shows.
To be fair, some of these did pretty good job with multiple games and should be (rightfully) praised for it.
The real mind boggling thing is how you can be clearly completely unfit for the job, like certain Eldar writer - who is producing blatantly broken books for his pet faction, while rest of his work (see say DW and Imperial Agents in 7th edition) is bland, tired, lazy mess that easily beats even infamous 4th edition CSM book in every possible way while also starting the whole 'no bits no rules' crap on unprecedented scale - yet still keep your job
And before his fanboys complain, his novels are if anything even worse. He completely slaughtered Tau in his series ignoring their established fluff and opening dozens of colossal plot holes in what could be perfect 'first contact' story in hands of another writer. Alas...
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2019/03/15 02:05:45
Subject: GW At GAMA.
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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I thought Phil was just a background writer now?
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2019/03/15 02:55:05
Subject: GW At GAMA.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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He has been just a background writer for about five years now. I think some users on here are living on the past.
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2019/03/15 11:43:52
Subject: GW At GAMA.
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Fixture of Dakka
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Danny slag wrote:I just wish GW would stop using the excuse "we're a miniature company not a game company" for their shoddy rules.
Seriously what game company hires fiction novel writers to write their rules instead of game designers? it's a mind bogglingly terrible idea and it shows.
What are you talking about? One or two of the game designers may have gone on to write novels (Andy hoare and Gav Thorpe are the only two that spring to mind right now), but you've got cause and effect the wrong way round. Automatically Appended Next Post:
A background writer for Age of Sigmar, so the complaints here are even more out of touch.
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2019/03/15 11:59:02
Subject: GW At GAMA.
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Brutal Black Orc
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Danny slag wrote:I just wish GW would stop using the excuse "we're a miniature company not a game company" for their shoddy rules.
That's an excuse that they've never used.
Seriously what game company hires fiction novel writers to write their rules instead of game designers? it's a mind bogglingly terrible idea and it shows.
You got it kind of backwards. They let their game designers play novel writers. Automatically Appended Next Post: Chikout wrote:
He has been just a background writer for about five years now. I think some users on here are living on the past.
People still complain about ward, even though he left gw more than half a decade ago.
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2019/03/15 12:17:53
Subject: GW At GAMA.
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
Vigo. Spain.
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But didn't Matt Ward come back a couple of years ago?
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Crimson Devil wrote:
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote:Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
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2019/03/15 12:36:36
Subject: GW At GAMA.
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Galas wrote:But didn't Matt Ward come back a couple of years ago?
No. He was doing contracted work for Black Library.
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2019/03/15 12:50:35
Subject: GW At GAMA.
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
We'll find out soon enough eh.
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Complaining about Ward is different though - the work of rules writers typically vanishes with each subsequent iteration of the codex, or at least dissipates over time, but the work of background writers tends to stick around until it's directly contradicted. As such, Ward's horror show lingers like the stink of spoiled meat long after he's gone.
I will say that it's unfair to blame Ward solely for the things he sharted out, somebody gave him permission/instructed him to write that garbage, but while said garbage is still floating around in the setting's background I don't think having a pop occasionally is as unreasonable and "stuck in the past" as some like to pretend.
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I need to acquire plastic Skavenslaves, can you help?
I have a blog now, evidently. Featuring the Alternative Mordheim Model Megalist.
"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
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"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal |
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2019/03/15 12:54:49
Subject: GW At GAMA.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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People seem confused by this so I'll lay it out here.
Pete Foley is head of the boxed games and books. Under him there is Ben Johnson in charge of Aos and someone in charge of 40k ( It was Wade price). There are 4 fiction writers who work on both aos and 40k. There are currently 4 rules writers for 40k and 3 for AoS. There is also a team of 2 doing Killteam, underworlds etc. There is a little cross over with the rules team, Robin Cruddace worked on the aos Dok book for example. Surprisingly Dave Sanders did the entirety of season 1 of underworlds by himself which explains why that game's balance is pretty good.
There are also about 30 miniature designers and about 10 full time artists.
One little tidbit is that Mark Gibbons recently announced that he would do some art for GW again.
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2019/03/15 13:12:49
Subject: GW At GAMA.
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
Scotland, but nowhere near my rulebook
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Utterly off topic, but good to hear Mark Gibbons is coming back. Always liked the contrast between him and Blanche.
(Ian Miller FTW, though)
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2019/03/15 14:41:06
Subject: GW At GAMA.
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Emboldened Warlock
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Irbis wrote:Danny slag wrote:Seriously what game company hires fiction novel writers to write their rules instead of game designers? it's a mind bogglingly terrible idea and it shows.
To be fair, some of these did pretty good job with multiple games and should be (rightfully) praised for it.
The real mind boggling thing is how you can be clearly completely unfit for the job, like certain Eldar writer - who is producing blatantly broken books for his pet faction, while rest of his work (see say DW and Imperial Agents in 7th edition) is bland, tired, lazy mess that easily beats even infamous 4th edition CSM book in every possible way while also starting the whole 'no bits no rules' crap on unprecedented scale - yet still keep your job
And before his fanboys complain, his novels are if anything even worse. He completely slaughtered Tau in his series ignoring their established fluff and opening dozens of colossal plot holes in what could be perfect 'first contact' story in hands of another writer. Alas...
If you don't have a clue about who is who at GW, stop making personal accusations.
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2019/03/15 14:54:26
Subject: GW At GAMA.
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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If Dakkanaughts restricted themselves to speaking about only subjects they understand, then Dakka would be as quiet as a graveyard.
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2019/03/15 14:57:55
Subject: GW At GAMA.
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Ferocious Blood Claw
Michigan
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Galas wrote:At this point when I die I hope they burn me with all my unbuild and unpainted miniatures in a boat, so I can finish them in Valhalla.
That's not going to fit in a longboat...
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Bits box, I ain't got no bits box...I have a bits room...
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2019/03/15 14:58:29
Subject: GW At GAMA.
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Crimson Devil wrote:If Dakkanaughts restricted themselves to speaking about only subjects they understand, then Dakka would be as quiet as a graveyard.
Dunno. I could bore you all to tears with the finer points of Investigation and Adjudication!
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2019/03/15 19:34:22
Subject: GW At GAMA.
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: Crimson Devil wrote:If Dakkanaughts restricted themselves to speaking about only subjects they understand, then Dakka would be as quiet as a graveyard.
Dunno. I could bore you all to tears with the finer points of Investigation and Adjudication!
Don't sell yourself short - you bore us to tears on a lot of subjects!
GW's GAMA reveals were...OK.
Here's hoping that they were saving the Good Stuff for Adepticon!
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