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Carlovonsexron wrote:
I do wonder where war cry goes from here, once the last warband and monsters are released.

Dedicated order warbands?

mage characters for each chaos warband?

Champion characters for each warband?

Even more chaos warbands?

All.those.options seem great to me, though I like the latter three best

I’m with you on all of this particularly the last three, as I find the Warcry setting/ Warbands very cool.

Personally what I would really like to see is each Chaos Warband get an “expansion set” with a single spruce with 3-5 news models on it. One being an alternate leader, one being a mage if they go that route, and one or two new unit types (with 1-2 models of each).

I would also like to see more stuff like the Ogre Myrmidon and Formorroid, random monsters and mercenaries that work for anyone. Also more chaotic beasts.

Then afterwards I would like to see Warcry: Catacombs of Hammerhal, or something like that. A setting out of the Eight Points that focuses on a place of conflict like Warcry, but that focuses less on Chaos and introduces new (with new models of course) factions for the other Grand Alliances. It would be a great place to fit in a Witch Hunter band or a rogue mad scientists undead creations or what not.

Probably more generic fighter for the chaos warbands, and more one off warband,

Although what would be a much better idea is expanding the existing warband, Iron Golem 2.0, Untamed Beast 2.0 and go on.

Hopefully they'll do like they're showing off Necromunda- new extra sprues that support and expand the current offerings.

I like the idea of alternate leaders, maybe new poses for some of the current optional builds, along with some all new bits.

Definitely more monsters too.

There's a few options and in part it depends if GW is going to treat Warcry like Killteam or as a short term project that then gets replaced by a Killteam game (ergo skirmish).


If GW wants to keep Warcry and use it as the Skirmish entrypoint for AoS then I'd say we might see a few things:

1) Continual use of it to release new models. These might be new sculpts as well as replacement sculpts - eg a new marauder set might get released under the Warcry banner.

2) GW could expand the above to also include other forces from other armies. This wouldn't require any change save for some Warcry themed packaging now and then. The benefit is it keeps Warcry in the marketing eye, but at the same time its not adding anything to the core armies that wasn't going to be added anyway. It just redirects the marketing to WARCRY first and then AoS second. About the only downside would be double packaging. This might mean short term Warcry packs followed by long term AoS packs; with new expansion books with the stats released in them and, every so often, an updated card pack with all the new stuff added etc..

3) Adding a new Chaos army through Warcry.

4) Wandering monsters. Models that have no allegiance to any one force. Ergo full boutique style models. Less likely but could easily be done through Forgeworld IF they wanted too.

5) Terrain packs are clearly popular to release through Warcry so I'd expect that to continue. It likely helps push sales of them far more than simply releasing a new block of terrain features.

It would be cool to see a campaign supplement eventually that has a new system for gaining xp that is more in-depth than the current destiny levels. Having fighters level up, obtain skills (and promotions to higher types of fighter where possible), etc.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
It would be cool to see a campaign supplement eventually that has a new system for gaining xp that is more in-depth than the current destiny levels. Having fighters level up, obtain skills (and promotions to higher types of fighter where possible), etc.

I'm pretty sure the next supplement will be Monsters and Mercenaries 2, to add allies / monsters for the new factions, new quests and challenge battles.

As for the leveling up, I'm leaning towards a system akind to granting command traits, but not just the leader and the favored warrior - meaning some specific missions will be allowing the winner to gain one as reward. I don't think gaining xp will work well with the way they implemented challenge battles, where the other player doesn't play his usual band but either a big monster or a set band with or without a named character. It works better with something that give rewards that are either temporary or very limited to a small number of miniatures. They don't want to go the Mordheim way as it was explained in a previous Stormcast ! interview.

 Jjohnso11 wrote:
So you don’t think people would take more rocktusks or other more expensive models if they were sold separately. You also don’t think they would do better?

If I had done so in my match up against Ogors, it would have made little difference, the Ogors have more attacks, doing around equal damage, and the same wounds, for less points than the Ogor Breacher, they are as slow as the breacher but just seem absurdly strong compared to the bigger models in some other warbands, I know they have to balance against the Gnoblars weaknesses somehow, but being able to kill the Breacher with one activation by spending a single double seems maddening.

I would like to see something along the lines of 'Warcry: Gangs of Hammerhal' at some time in the future

 Ghaz wrote:
I would like to see something along the lines of 'Warcry: Gangs of Hammerhal' at some time in the future

Well if that happens I am going to make warband called "Hammers of Hammerhal" equipped nothing but hammers.

Small hammers, big hammers, smaller hammers and bows that shoot hammers! 'Cause hammers!

Sotahullu wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:
I would like to see something along the lines of 'Warcry: Gangs of Hammerhal' at some time in the future

Well if that happens I am going to make warband called "Hammers of Hammerhal" equipped nothing but hammers.

Small hammers, big hammers, smaller hammers and bows that shoot hammers! 'Cause hammers!

So basically Stormcast?

 Gallahad wrote:

Sotahullu wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:
I would like to see something along the lines of 'Warcry: Gangs of Hammerhal' at some time in the future

Well if that happens I am going to make warband called "Hammers of Hammerhal" equipped nothing but hammers.

Small hammers, big hammers, smaller hammers and bows that shoot hammers! 'Cause hammers!

So basically Stormcast?

He said "bows that shoot hammers", not "cloaks that shoot hammers".




I'd like expansion for all the Chaos bands, too, and a few bespoke bands for the other factions/races, but as a lower priority than the expansions.

Next round of cards are imminent should know in 15 minutes if they are next week

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Next weeks preorders - So Nurgle and Khorne are split as expected.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/02/09/pre-order-preview-heroes-warbands-gangs-and-more/

Cards and beasts next week!

Hmmm Fyreslayer cards are missing I wonder if that's an oversight on the article they are definitely listed in the Tome of Champions

It doesn't list them in the article...but maybe they'll get a warband box?

I was hoping for a combined Maggotkin of Nurgle warband What would Rotbringers have other than Putrid Blightkings and a Rotbringer Sorcerer? I doubt we'll see Pusgoyle Blightlords or Maggoth Lords and the Lord of Blights and Lord of Plagues are in the Monsters and Mercenaries book.

Like others, I hope the Fyreslayers were a minor over-sight. If they're inexplicably delayed, I am going to feel a little salty.

Still buying six of these those, and need to save money for the Middle-Earth card-packs too.

Maybe Fyreslayers will be grouped with the fire realm warband for thematic effect.

 Ghaz wrote:
I was hoping for a combined Maggotkin of Nurgle warband What would Rotbringers have other than Putrid Blightkings and a Rotbringer Sorcerer? I doubt we'll see Pusgoyle Blightlords or Maggoth Lords and the Lord of Blights and Lord of Plagues are in the Monsters and Mercenaries book.

That's the thing; blightkings have so many equipment options the kit can easily fill a faction on it's own. I'm excited because I get two full warbands just for my Nurgle! It's not like my friends won't let me 'ally in' some plaguebearers to run with blightkings if I want.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:
I was hoping for a combined Maggotkin of Nurgle warband What would Rotbringers have other than Putrid Blightkings and a Rotbringer Sorcerer? I doubt we'll see Pusgoyle Blightlords or Maggoth Lords and the Lord of Blights and Lord of Plagues are in the Monsters and Mercenaries book.

That's the thing; blightkings have so many equipment options the kit can easily fill a faction on it's own. I'm excited because I get two full warbands just for my Nurgle! It's not like my friends won't let me 'ally in' some plaguebearers to run with blightkings if I want.

I have actually found it weird that in basic AoS Blightkings only have one weapon profile despite there being weapon variations.

So there is going to be Champion, Shielded grunts, Dual-wielding grunts and BAS (Big Ass Scythe).

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:
I was hoping for a combined Maggotkin of Nurgle warband What would Rotbringers have other than Putrid Blightkings and a Rotbringer Sorcerer? I doubt we'll see Pusgoyle Blightlords or Maggoth Lords and the Lord of Blights and Lord of Plagues are in the Monsters and Mercenaries book.

That's the thing; blightkings have so many equipment options the kit can easily fill a faction on it's own. I'm excited because I get two full warbands just for my Nurgle! It's not like my friends won't let me 'ally in' some plaguebearers to run with blightkings if I want.

I was just hoping for some variety in the warband. I purchased The Wurmspat kit (even though I don't play Underworlds) and was hoping to fill out the warband with a $35 box of Plaguebearers instead of a $55 box of Putrid Blightkings...

Yeah they will probably split out the weapon options to make a viable warband. 1 box of Putrid Blightkings might make a whole warband.

Blightlord (leader)
Blightking 2 hand weapons
Blightking hand weapon and shield
Blightking Flail
Blightking Great weapon
Blightking Scythe
and maybe a Glaive option now that the Wurmspat have one.

It's still very light on models which are likely to be expensive points wise. The sorcerer might make it in to make up the numbers LoN have a Necromancer so there is precedent for a non Ally or Merc wizard but it's not available in plastic and they don't normally use Underworld models to make up warbands

I think Pusgoyle Blightlords are probably too OP for Warcry.

Yea I wouldn't expect flybois. Shame they split up Nurgle given how few kits he gets, and mortal and daemon abilities should overlap anyway (unlike Arcanites and Daemons).

 DaveC wrote:


I think Pusgoyle Blightlords are probably too OP for Warcry.

I actually think the opposite. Just having Blightkings isn't enough for a cardpack, IMHO, even with as many different options as possible. No chance that they make profiles to play the Beastgrave warband, they always copied the AoS units so far even with bands that actually had beastgrave miniatures out at the time of the cardpack's release.

Also, if they managed to put Stormfiends and Chimaera in Warcry, why not Blightlords ? You know balance isn't a reason, especially when they can make profiles totally different than in AoS. I totally see them putting an even more expensive flying cavalry in a very elite warband like Maggotkins. Who knows, maybe we'll be able to make a warband with three miniatures ?

 Sarouan wrote:
No chance that they make profiles to play the Beastgrave warband, they always copied the AoS units so far even with bands that actually had beastgrave miniatures out at the time of the cardpack's release.

I can absolutely see them releasing cards for the Underworlds warbands at some point. Maybe as one large pack per Underworlds "season" or something.

 Ghaz wrote:
I was hoping for a combined Maggotkin of Nurgle warband

You need to remember that your warband can contain anybody that shares an icon with the campaign quest. For the Tzeentch, Nurgle, and Khorne quests in the Tome of Champions, their quests have two icons.

Prices

Fomoroid Crusher €32.50 £25 $40
Mindstealer Sphiranx €32.50 £25 $40
All cards €8, £6 $10 each

Definitely only 8 card packs no Fyreslayers on the price list

I can live with that price for Hypno-Cat.

I hope Slaanesh gets a fun lineup. That's the only card pack I'm interested in from this batch.

WTF @ Fyreslayers vanishing from the wider card releases. They now remain the only warband with quests... but no actual way to play them. Weird.

I can only guess they discovered some kind of serious enough typos or misprints that it functionally rendered the packs moot?

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
WTF @ Fyreslayers vanishing from the wider card releases. They now remain the only warband with quests... but no actual way to play them. Weird.

Scions of Flame have a quest in the original rulebook.

I can only guess they discovered some kind of serious enough typos or misprints that it functionally rendered the packs moot?

Considering the typos and misprints that they did let through, these must be seriously bad.