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CSM- old terminator lord, 6 ancient bikers, 30 shiny new marines
24.75+80+180= $284.75

I see 5 Havocs on the container.

Voss wrote:


Tyranids- Tyrant, Trygon, 3x Tyrannofex (with Tervigon parts I assume)
57.75*4+53.75= $284.75

I'm seeing two carnifexes & one Tyrannofex

Looks like they've gone back in time and borrowed from the old BattleTech system.

Interview on YouTube.

Aexcaliber wrote:

CSM- old terminator lord, 6 ancient bikers, 30 shiny new marines
24.75+80+180= $284.75

I see 5 Havocs on the container.

I'm not seeing any Havocs?

Damn. I need new googles.

Biggest flaw wlth these for me is rather unfortunate timing. By the time these comes out i'm in japan. If l order them they will be sent to sender before i come home. And unlikely any left on august :/

Wonder if independent stores don't mind delaying shipping by month? Probably do...

 Dakka Flakka Flame wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

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 Dakka Flakka Flame wrote:
Since the Battalion boxes are limited in numbers I hope they don't include highly desirable special rules with them.

I am pretty excited for this overall.

They did say the following in the Warhammer Community article...

We are making all of the datasheets for Apocalypse available as FREE downloads at launch, so you’ll be able to start playing straight away. Some of the more popular units will also have cards of their datasheets available to buy if you want a handy physical reference.

Yes, but while all the datasheets are free I'm a little concerned it will be like Kill Team where the individual boxes contain special rules. Since these Battalion boxes are a limited release I doubt they will do that (or at least I hope they won't).

Does it say anywhere that they do?

No. So they won't. They always advertise that fact when it's a thing. Plus 40k sets aren't really getting them as much these days.

I'm keen to see whether the new rules mechanics will work at the usual 40k sizes. If this can
a) speed up battles to the point where people who have very little time to play (like me, say) and
b) let me get some use out of cool units that always die immediately in regular 40k
well, then I'm in!

 Kanluwen wrote:
Does it say anywhere that they do?

No. So they won't. They always advertise that fact when it's a thing. Plus 40k sets aren't really getting them as much these days.

Good point.

Quite keen on the Orky box.

Been pondering a Kan Horde for a while now...

Shall consider any saving to be had first and foremost!

Soooo, does the new box and Apoc mean that the Baneblade might be available at third party sellers again? I won't ever get one at German GW prices, but at a nice discount from the UK...hmh. I never ordered one while the pound was 1.08€ and my brother still complains about not having a Baneblade because of that.

Aexcaliber wrote:
Damn. I need new googles.

5 dudes standing by themselves on a higher vantage point, one obvious heavy weapon... I assumed they were Havocs too.

It would be cool if the Baneblade was no longer a webstore exclusive. It seems like a fairly popular model.

Snugiraffe wrote:
I'm keen to see whether the new rules mechanics will work at the usual 40k sizes. If this can
a) speed up battles to the point where people who have very little time to play (like me, say) and
b) let me get some use out of cool units that always die immediately in regular 40k
well, then I'm in!

That’s an interesting question. How far down will this scale?

This release will mean that there’ll be 3 tiers of game using the same miniature range; Kill Team, 40k and Apocalypse. Kill Team definitely has its own niche and will continue to be played. I can’t see Apocalypse and 40k not treading on each other’s toes somewhat, however.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Theophony wrote:
Just in time with the new paints to get all that grey taken care of.

Another nail in the old marines coffin as they get no bundles.

Drukhari didn't get any bundles either.
Nor did any of the non-Codex Chapters.
Oh man and I guess Custodes are gone too, they didn't get one!
Death Guard and Thousand Sons? No bundles, gone!


There's a Start Collecting Space Marines set that gives you old marines.

Just to clarify, you actually think that normal size marines are still going to get new production models? He's merely pointing out that the classic marine line is no longer expanding and will only be in decline. He's correct. Why be an ass?

 Elbows wrote:

Just to clarify, you actually think that normal size marines are still going to get new production models? He's merely pointing out that the classic marine line is no longer expanding and will only be in decline. He's correct. Why be an ass?

Did the line really need to be expanded? No. And yet we not long ago got the Deathwatch range, which brought in old Marines despite being released not long before Primaris got unveiled. We got a new GK character and a whole range that is specifically stated to not be getting Primaris anytime soon.

He "merely pointed out" nothing.

Did you really expect there to be bundles for "old Marines" when they still have Start Collecting sets across C: SM, BA, SW, and Deathwatch?

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:

Voss wrote:


Tyranids- Tyrant, Trygon, 3x Tyrannofex (with Tervigon parts I assume)
57.75*4+53.75= $284.75

I'm seeing two carnifexes & one Tyrannofex

Bah, so they are. There are enough similar features that I just thought they were further back in the picture.
Fixed:
Tyranids- Tyrant, Trygon, 2 Carnifexes, 1 Tyrannofex (with Tervigon parts I assume)
57.75*2+90+53.75= $259.25

Makes more sense as a 40K detachment, yet I'm somewhat disappointed regardless.

I'm actually kind of interested in those movement trays, slightly more for AOS than 40K. Wonder how much those are gonna run and exactly how many are in the box (the side has several pics and then a "x2" on one corner, but not sure if that means "all of the above x2" or "all of the above plus 2 of this one").

Maybe they are priced like christmas battleboxes? I'd love that mechanicus box just for the joy of creating a true legio mechanica.

 Valander wrote:
I'm actually kind of interested in those movement trays, slightly more for AOS than 40K. Wonder how much those are gonna run and exactly how many are in the box (the side has several pics and then a "x2" on one corner, but not sure if that means "all of the above x2" or "all of the above plus 2 of this one").

I just can't imagine they'll charge an arm and a leg for those movement trays that everyone and their grandmother is making movement trays out of plastic or MDF.

However, it is GW...

"imperial Knight Super Heavy Detachment".

Never leave home without one!

Great, just when I think I might be done buying miniatures for a while, along come some big new bundle boxes to test my resolve.

I'm immediately tempted whenever there's a Craftworlds box. It's nuts, because I've already got 20 Wraithguard, 3 Wraithlords and the Spiritseer, I really don't need this one. Yet, the temptation is still there. The knights too - I've got Renegade still in the box, and this would add to it nicely and make it into a decent little knight army.

It's nice to see the new baneblade box, if only because (as someone already mentioned) it may mean it's no longer a webstore exclusive and can be had for FLGS discount.

The Apocalypse box itself... well... I guess it's fitting for my massive pile of models to own the Apocalypse rules, but it does look like an uninspiring box of cards to me at this point. I wonder what they'll be charging for it.

I'm curious how many D12s will be needed. I've got a few kicking around somewhere, but will likely need to order more. Will it really need as many as 25 like the one dice pack they're selling?

I bought in heavily the last time GW did Apoc.

Never even opened the cards before 7th Ed hit.

Not again...

Don't want any of that stuff in terms of apocalypse the actual game system or even Abby if the battle force boxes but I do want the new marine tank for sure.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I bought in heavily the last time GW did Apoc.

Never even opened the cards before 7th Ed hit.

Not again...

On the other hand, this appears to be its own complete ruleset, and would be unaffected by any shift in the standard 40K rules. Appears to be, anyway. It's odd, though, how GW seems to be underhyping this in comparison to, say, a new range of paints.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I bought in heavily the last time GW did Apoc.

Never even opened the cards before 7th Ed hit.

Not again...

I’m the same, since apoc first come out I’ve only had one game instore.

 Tannhauser42 wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I bought in heavily the last time GW did Apoc.

Never even opened the cards before 7th Ed hit.

Not again...

On the other hand, this appears to be its own complete ruleset, and would be unaffected by any shift in the standard 40K rules. Appears to be, anyway. It's odd, though, how GW seems to be underhyping this in comparison to, say, a new range of paints.

I'm actually intensely curious if it will be a better way of playing sensible scale 40k than 40k is.

 Tannhauser42 wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I bought in heavily the last time GW did Apoc.

Never even opened the cards before 7th Ed hit.

Not again...

On the other hand, this appears to be its own complete ruleset, and would be unaffected by any shift in the standard 40K rules. Appears to be, anyway. It's odd, though, how GW seems to be underhyping this in comparison to, say, a new range of paints.

Probably because it’s the latest summer box shifter and not something they have great plans to hugely support, as with every other permutation of Apocalypse. Get people to buy a big box, an army bundle of miniatures they already produce, and some absurdly-marked-up Movement Trays, then laugh all the way to the bank.


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Voss wrote:

 Tannhauser42 wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I bought in heavily the last time GW did Apoc.

Never even opened the cards before 7th Ed hit.

Not again...

On the other hand, this appears to be its own complete ruleset, and would be unaffected by any shift in the standard 40K rules. Appears to be, anyway. It's odd, though, how GW seems to be underhyping this in comparison to, say, a new range of paints.

I'm actually intensely curious if it will be a better way of playing sensible scale 40k than 40k is.

Our group has had the same thought!

I kinda find it humorous that these Apocalypse army sets have so few models. “Play massive games!” and the classic horde armies have a dozen or less models