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BrianDavion wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

No One Important wrote:

 Jadenim wrote:
Always worth remembering that we Brits don’t write our dates like that.

We do it properly!

But the man running the show pronounces lieutenant properly. To go full blown conspiracy theorist on this, that may be a hint he's not using the British dating system.

or it might just be a joke on how it's oft mispronounced thanks to American pop culture being everywhere. I can't speak for the British experiance, but in Canada we offically pronounce it leftenant but lootenant is more commonly used by civilians simply because we get our info from TV which is all American programming for the most part.

Weird, when I had joint training with the Canadian Army, the Lieutenants were referred to Lieutenants not Leftenants. Though by that time I was already a Captain, so maybe I just wasn't listening to it when it was said.

I might be wrong, it's also possiable it's changed. Canada is kind of an oddball country that sometimes has trouble making up it's mind if it wants to be American or British

The unit was from Quebec, so that might have made a difference too. Trying to give/receive report on a "patient" with a fairly heavy accent (and I am from Minnesota, we practically sound Canadian anyway) was quite interesting. Definitely one of the more fun exercises I have been a part of.

The deviation primarily occurs today because of Brits feeling like they were being accosted by using the French pronounciation. Only the Commonwealth countries use Leftenant. The rest of the known universe uses Lieutenant.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

The deviation primarily occurs today because of Brits feeling like they were being accosted by using the French pronounciation. Only the Commonwealth countries use Leftenant. The rest of the known universe uses Lieutenant.

The rest? I think majority of the English speaking countries are Commonwealth countries...

Whoah.. my throwaway joke about the Quebecois...



I suppose it is thematic to have former colonial overlords making fun of the provincial American accents though given that tomorrow is the 4th of July. It makes me glad to live in America where we only need to look from sea to shining sea for a wealth of silly accents! From my personal New England favs like NY/NJ extra on a gangster movie to the Da Bears superfan to the unintelligible at times Southern drawl to the nails on a chalkboard that is Boston's take on English, we need to look no further! Happy 4th of July tomorrow!

Not Online!!! wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
French person here, I can confirm that Quebecois accent are absolutely, irremediably hilarious.
It's extremely disturbing when hearing actually dark things said with a Quebecois accent because you still can't shake the feeling that the person is talking in a voluntarily silly voice.

Pff always the same with you language Imperialists making fun of the local dialects! You are equally as bad as the germans and you should feel bad for that alone! :

Quebec is to a person from France a bit silly sounding. you gotta put it into context here. the British conquered New France (aka Quebec) in 1760. After that Quebec was an island of French surrounded by Anglophones with Anglophone rulers. They fought hard to preserve their language (it's honestly impressive French is still spoken today when you think about it) thing is, the language thus hasn't changed much since the conquest. Well French in France has, understandably evolved. So a frenchman hearing a Quebecquis speaking French it'd be like an English speaking having someone walk up and start speaking Shakespearian English at them. Understandably it might be hard to take them too seriously. This is pretty common knowledge among Canadians.

 Crimson wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

The deviation primarily occurs today because of Brits feeling like they were being accosted by using the French pronounciation. Only the Commonwealth countries use Leftenant. The rest of the known universe uses Lieutenant.

The rest? I think majority of the English speaking countries are Commonwealth countries...

And when the Chinese, Japanese, Latin Americans, and so on speak English, how do you suppose they pronounce Lieutenant?

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Crimson wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

The deviation primarily occurs today because of Brits feeling like they were being accosted by using the French pronounciation. Only the Commonwealth countries use Leftenant. The rest of the known universe uses Lieutenant.

The rest? I think majority of the English speaking countries are Commonwealth countries...

And when the Chinese, Japanese, Latin Americans, and so on speak English, how do you suppose they pronounce Lieutenant?

whatever way the then dominate english speaking power speaks it, a century ago I bet they pronounced it Leftenant

on a slightly differant note, I'll give Battletech props, one of their factions uses the English prounciation and they just spell it Leftenant to remove any and all doubt. GW should consider the same TBH

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
And when the Chinese, Japanese, Latin Americans, and so on speak English, how do you suppose they pronounce Lieutenant?

I don't know. But I know that in most countries where English is taught as a second language, the British English is the regional variant predominately being taught. Of course how people actually speak is influenced greatly by other factors, such as popular culture, and that may favour American spellings/pronunciation.

At any rate, however they spell or pronounce the word(for the record, the painting guide videos pronounce it lieu not left), it looks like we might finally be getting a general release of a Lieutenant model with this upcoming release. The image with the commentator pointing at the model seems to show a model Phobos Armor with a Combat Knife and a standard Bolt Pistol. His helmet on his hip has the red and white stripes if a Lieutenant helmet. He might have a Bolt Carbine slung on his back (I think I can kinda see a grip sticking out to his right), but I am not remotely sure. I don't really see the grab chute the LT from Shadowspear was equipped with, so who knows if that is going to be standard equipment or an option.

What I would really like, despite it not looking to be the case, is for that model with the cape/cloak to be a Techmarine, but he is wearing blue with no visible red, so that is probably a no.

just being able to buy a leuiteant without having to buy a 200 dollar box'll be nice

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
At any rate, however they spell or pronounce the word(for the record, the painting guide videos pronounce it lieu not left), it looks like we might finally be getting a general release of a Lieutenant model with this upcoming release. The image with the commentator pointing at the model seems to show a model Phobos Armor with a Combat Knife and a standard Bolt Pistol. His helmet on his hip has the red and white stripes if a Lieutenant helmet. He might have a Bolt Carbine slung on his back (I think I can kinda see a grip sticking out to his right), but I am not remotely sure. I don't really see the grab chute the LT from Shadowspear was equipped with, so who knows if that is going to be standard equipment or an option.

What I would really like, despite it not looking to be the case, is for that model with the cape/cloak to be a Techmarine, but he is wearing blue with no visible red, so that is probably a no.

Speaking of Techmarines, there is that Iron Hands character that will probably drop with the rest of these marines.

Back on the differences between the writings of dates, I think the most important part is the month, as it gives you the best general idea of what to expect for weather in a region. So, since I read from left to right, seeing the month first is best in my opinion.

 Apple Peel wrote:
Back on the differences between the writings of dates, I think the most important part is the month, as it gives you the best general idea of what to expect for weather in a region. So, since I read from left to right, seeing the month first is best in my opinion.

I dunno with thew way the mind works I find a order of lowest to highest works best hence day month year

As fascinating as the discussion of dates formats and rank pronunciation may be, how about we take those elsewhere and leave this thread for actual news, hmm?

"GW releases a new primaris lieutenant"

In other news: Rain is wet....

To be honest I'm intrigued they are trolling the customer base this hard... It seems the voices and the feedback has reached them but they simply decided they don't care. Taking the decision to rub peoples noses in it is a bit mean lol. I guess GW policies and decisions will forever remain a mystery to me.

BrianDavion wrote:

 Apple Peel wrote:
Back on the differences between the writings of dates, I think the most important part is the month, as it gives you the best general idea of what to expect for weather in a region. So, since I read from left to right, seeing the month first is best in my opinion.

I dunno with thew way the mind works I find a order of lowest to highest works best hence day month year

Highest to lowest is nice, but if I’m in a rush, I’d like to know what clothing is appropriate for the expected weather.

I love the GW’s gag here.

 Argive wrote:
"GW releases a new primaris lieutenant"

In other news: Rain is wet....

To be honest I'm intrigued they are trolling the customer base this hard... It seems the voices and the feedback has reached them but they simply decided they don't care. Taking the decision to rub peoples noses in it is a bit mean lol. I guess GW policies and decisions will forever remain a mystery to me.

perhaps you should actually read the news, this isn't some primaris leuitenant... this is a SPECIAL primaris leuitenant. ohh and a multipart Infiltrator kit, and a new transport, ohh and a multipart eliminator kit, and a new dreadnought.. but the thing to take away from this is there's also a primaris Lt!

Again, if this guy is in his own clam pack, it is the first Primaris Lieutenant that will have a standard, individual release. Ever. That is actually important news. I get that Primaris Lieutenants are basically a meme character now, but this is actually news.

But that is a footnote to the new Primaris Tank. And Dreadnought. And multi-part Eliminators (that are likely to have the Las Fusils, which is an Anti-Tank weapon, closing one of the holes Primaris armies have). And multi-part Infiltrators.

This release actually seems like it is filling a lot of gaps that people have for Primaris. It is going to be interesting. And that doesn't include the fact that we are likely to be getting a new Codex Space Marines with this release too.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Again, if this guy is in his own clam pack, it is the first Primaris Lieutenant that will have a standard, individual release. Ever. That is actually important news. I get that Primaris Lieutenants are basically a meme character now, but this is actually news.

But that is a footnote to the new Primaris Tank. And Dreadnought. And multi-part Eliminators (that are likely to have the Las Fusils, which is an Anti-Tank weapon, closing one of the holes Primaris armies have). And multi-part Infiltrators.

This release actually seems like it is filling a lot of gaps that people have for Primaris. It is going to be interesting. And that doesn't include the fact that we are likely to be getting a new Codex Space Marines with this release too.

actually there are some clampack Leuitenants already but they're dark angels and blood angels, so might wanna amend that to "first standard individual release for vanilla marines"

BrianDavion wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
[Again, if this guy is in his own clam pack, it is the first Primaris Lieutenant that will have a standard, individual release. Ever. That is actually important news. I get that Primaris Lieutenants are basically a meme character now, but this is actually news.

But that is a footnote to the new Primaris Tank. And Dreadnought. And multi-part Eliminators (that are likely to have the Las Fusils, which is an Anti-Tank weapon, closing one of the holes Primaris armies have). And multi-part Infiltrators.

This release actually seems like it is filling a lot of gaps that people have for Primaris. It is going to be interesting. And that doesn't include the fact that we are likely to be getting a new Codex Space Marines with this release too.

actually there are some clampack Leuitenants already but they're dark angels and blood angels, so might wanna amend that to "first standard individual release for vanilla marines"

That is what I meant. First non-Chapter Specific clam pack Lieutenant.

 Argive wrote:
... trolling the customer base

 Argive wrote:
... rub peoples noses in it...

Really? They're taking the piss out of themselves more than anything else.

How anyone could read this as an "attack" on the fans is beyond me...

'Rolling with the punches' is the best way to describe it imo.

And if customers didn't want to buy Primaris Lieutenants, GW's sales figures wouldn't be telling them to make more.

GW know their market. They know us. They know we enjoy poking fun at stuff. And they join in, now and again.

That's not trolling anyone.

Remember the Photato? And their increasingly funny videos from the early days of Warhammer Community? 'Plastic Sisters of Battle!'

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 Kanluwen wrote:

There's no "leak". It's from the Warhammer 40,000: Conquest stuff over in UK/EU and apparently now Australia. Here's the pictures I could find:

Spoiler:

...well, feth me sideways, that's my primaris painting scheme! (well, almost, really xD. Black kneepads and a bit of black on the shoulders)

Dig the way the all Primaris chapter still has Land Raiders sat in the armoury that they cannot get into/drive/use.

BrianDavion wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
French person here, I can confirm that Quebecois accent are absolutely, irremediably hilarious.
It's extremely disturbing when hearing actually dark things said with a Quebecois accent because you still can't shake the feeling that the person is talking in a voluntarily silly voice.

Pff always the same with you language Imperialists making fun of the local dialects! You are equally as bad as the germans and you should feel bad for that alone! :

Quebec is to a person from France a bit silly sounding. you gotta put it into context here. the British conquered New France (aka Quebec) in 1760. After that Quebec was an island of French surrounded by Anglophones with Anglophone rulers. They fought hard to preserve their language (it's honestly impressive French is still spoken today when you think about it) thing is, the language thus hasn't changed much since the conquest. Well French in France has, understandably evolved. So a frenchman hearing a Quebecquis speaking French it'd be like an English speaking having someone walk up and start speaking Shakespearian English at them. Understandably it might be hard to take them too seriously. This is pretty common knowledge among Canadians.

Thank you i frequently get the same from Germans, "Could you speak in propper high german please?" GO FETH YOURSELF is my answer to that i am trying, i normally speak fething medieval to renaisance age german you bloody spanker so excuese me if I sometimes use Luegen instead of schauen.....

And no it is not silly, that statement is insulting.



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 reds8n wrote:
Dig the way the all Primaris chapter still has Land Raiders sat in the armoury that they cannot get into/drive/use.

They obviously want to sell you the new tanks....
That look more like orkz got a hand on them with all the dakka all over them...

Not Online!!! wrote:

 reds8n wrote:
Dig the way the all Primaris chapter still has Land Raiders sat in the armoury that they cannot get into/drive/use.

They obviously want to sell you the new tanks....
That look more like orkz got a hand on them with all the dakka all over them...

You have something against dakka? Because this really isn't the place...

I'm one of those very rare people who actually likes the repulsor. I think it’s the right kind of thing for space marines to go around in – tough, incredibly well-armed and mobile. It never made sense to me to have marines going around in rhinos, which were fragile, virtually unarmed and not particularly quick.

For the same reason, I’ve always quite liked the stormraven. I look forward to getting some kind of Primaris flyer.

Mandragola wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:

 reds8n wrote:
Dig the way the all Primaris chapter still has Land Raiders sat in the armoury that they cannot get into/drive/use.

They obviously want to sell you the new tanks....
That look more like orkz got a hand on them with all the dakka all over them...

You have something against dakka? Because this really isn't the place...

I'm one of those very rare people who actually likes the repulsor. I think it’s the right kind of thing for space marines to go around in – tough, incredibly well-armed and mobile. It never made sense to me to have marines going around in rhinos, which were fragile, virtually unarmed and not particularly quick.

For the same reason, I’ve always quite liked the stormraven. I look forward to getting some kind of Primaris flyer.

No i absolutely love dakka on tanks.
I just feel that the Primaris stuff has overdone it.

I think for me it's the aesthetic of the Primaris tanks.

I've absolutely no problem with the main hull weapons, including the Heavy Stubbers. But the little rocket pods and that look literally tacked on. Like a younger, more enthusiastic Grotsnik went a bit bonkers in the ol' Bitz Box, and decided to up-gun it.

By all means, there's no reason the model shouldn't have that many weapons. But man, the execution.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I think for me it's the aesthetic of the Primaris tanks.

I've absolutely no problem with the main hull weapons, including the Heavy Stubbers. But the little rocket pods and that look literally tacked on. Like a younger, more enthusiastic Grotsnik went a bit bonkers in the ol' Bitz Box, and decided to up-gun it.

By all means, there's no reason the model shouldn't have that many weapons. But man, the execution.

this, it looks overly enthusiasthic mekboy working parttime for the mechanicum then Imperium imo.