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So this isn't nesscarrily related to the upcoming release and we may not see any of these models in production, but there's an image from a GW recruitement trainee thingy that shows some models we've not seeing before, including

Could be a genuine slip up(remember how the GSC Kelermorph accidently got put in the display cabinets?) or they could be scrapped/unused test or concept sculpts.

So the plastic Commissar was a trainee sculpt?

Makes sense...

GoatboyBeta wrote:
Could be a genuine slip up(remember how the GSC Kelermorph accidently got put in the display cabinets?) or they could be scraped/unused test or concept sculpts.

If the pic is from a recruitment promotion, they'll be test sculpts done by trainee sculptors or applicants. One of the things they get prospective sculptors to do is to reproduce an existing model, to show how well they can match the style.

The thing that jumps out at me from that pic is that the Commissar appears to be better proportioned than the 'real' model...

Plasma pistol isn't oversized? The head looks like it belongs to the same scale miniature as the body?

Which are the new ones? The dude in the middle with all the skulls looks very dark apostle to me, but he also has a marine backpack so I can't tell? If loyalist I can't remember seeing a marine with those sorts of markings.

Likewise the guy on the far left, he's flying, has a power maul with something trailing off it, an iron halo as well so some kind of captain?

Dudeface wrote:
Which are the new ones? The dude in the middle with all the skulls looks very dark apostle to me, but he also has a marine backpack so I can't tell? If loyalist I can't remember seeing a marine with those sorts of markings.

Likewise the guy on the far left, he's flying, has a power maul with something trailing off it, an iron halo as well so some kind of captain?

yeah those are the two new ones, the one that looks dark apostate is actually a space Marine, look closely and you'll see he's definatly wearing MK X armor.

There is also an Ork Nob / Warboss floating in the back that doesn’t seem to match current sculpts (behind the Deathwatch Commander).

The ork looks like an old, metal Nob with a weapon swap I think?

Yeah it's the old metal Ork Warboss with other weapons. i wonder what that orange thing behind it is though.

So much for that 7/23 speculation. Too bad.

I'm sure once the warcry push is over we'll start seeing these models

Gw is doing a 40k preview on August 3rd, the day of the big apocalypse battle. They will probably show off the new primaris stuff then.

Just because there's no general 40K news thread like there is for AoS, I'll ask this here:

Why were the Cadian Squad and Command Squads up for pre-order this week?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Just because there's no general 40K news thread like there is for AoS, I'll ask this here:

Why were the Cadian Squad and Command Squads up for pre-order this week?

Probably repackaged in some way. The Leman Russ popped up the same way during the Apocalypse bundle preorders.

Or they were flagged incorrectly- that happens from time to time (for several weeks, Rubrics didn't show up in the Thousand Sons section).
The Demolisher, Sentinels and HW Teams are in 'new releases' alongside the Cadians. (at least on the US store)

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Just because there's no general 40K news thread like there is for AoS, I'll ask this here:

Why were the Cadian Squad and Command Squads up for pre-order this week?

Maybe because they are more expensive now.

That was my concern...

 Oguhmek wrote:
Yeah it's the old metal Ork Warboss with other weapons. i wonder what that orange thing behind it is though.

Looks like a Herald of Tzeentch.

BrianDavion wrote:
So this isn't nesscarrily related to the upcoming release and we may not see any of these models in production, but there's an image from a GW recruitement trainee thingy that shows some models we've not seeing before, including

GW get trainees to replicate an existing sculpt as part of their training. I remember Darren Latham saying he did the old Brian Nelson freelance knight. That's what I think these are.

https://twitter.com/PrimarisLt/status/1154036110101815296?s=20

"Would look great in gravis plate, just saying" 724 was on the money to some degree.

"We're gonna get a huge release on this day, you'll see!!!!!!!"

*short, silly tweet posts a different day*

"SEEEE WE WERE RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!"

For feths sake.

Sterling191 wrote:
"We're gonna get a huge release on this day, you'll see!!!!!!!"

*short, silly tweet posts a different day*

"SEEEE WE WERE RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!"

For feths sake.

Well, as I'm the only person to have noted it in here, I'll consider that a direct response - I never asserted there would be any leaks on any date. More over your reaction is more dramatic than the people (if not me) you are complaining about.

that a gravis Lt will happen is pretty much a "well duh" anyway.

I just want to be able to freely equip my Primaris character from the armoury. The predetermined gear combos for characters is my biggest peeve with the Primaris, especially as many of the loadouts are completely idiotic. Gravis Captain has two expensive melee weapons, whilst Phohos Captains and Lieutenants with an ability to deploy close to the enemy do not get real melee weapons at all. It is so frustrating.

 Crimson wrote:
I just want to be able to freely equip my Primaris character from the armoury. The predetermined gear combos for characters is my biggest peeve with the Primaris, especially as many of the loadouts are completely idiotic. Gravis Captain has two expensive melee weapons, whilst Phohos Captains and Lieutenants with an ability to deploy close to the enemy do not get real melee weapons at all. It is so frustrating.

agreed. and even regular captains and lts have a really odd limiter that annoys me, the ability to take master crafted auto bolt rifles or stalker bolt rifles but not STANDARD bolt rifles. it drives me batty.

BrianDavion wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
I just want to be able to freely equip my Primaris character from the armoury. The predetermined gear combos for characters is my biggest peeve with the Primaris, especially as many of the loadouts are completely idiotic. Gravis Captain has two expensive melee weapons, whilst Phohos Captains and Lieutenants with an ability to deploy close to the enemy do not get real melee weapons at all. It is so frustrating.

agreed. and even regular captains and lts have a really odd limiter that annoys me, the ability to take master crafted auto bolt rifles or stalker bolt rifles but not STANDARD bolt rifles. it drives me batty.

Why would a cappy carry a standard bolt gun? I would expect him to have a master crafted specialist bolt gun

But a master crafted bolt rifle would be good for him to then move up the board with hellblasters and still be a threat with (probably) 2x Ap-1 D2 shots

 Togusa wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
I just want to be able to freely equip my Primaris character from the armoury. The predetermined gear combos for characters is my biggest peeve with the Primaris, especially as many of the loadouts are completely idiotic. Gravis Captain has two expensive melee weapons, whilst Phohos Captains and Lieutenants with an ability to deploy close to the enemy do not get real melee weapons at all. It is so frustrating.

agreed. and even regular captains and lts have a really odd limiter that annoys me, the ability to take master crafted auto bolt rifles or stalker bolt rifles but not STANDARD bolt rifles. it drives me batty.

Why would a cappy carry a standard bolt gun? I would expect him to have a master crafted specialist bolt gun

Because their is a lot of inconsistency in the rarity of these things and their relationship to cost. In the lore weapons of different kinds are rarer than the point values in the game would leave you to believe. Even though a master crafted bolt pistol isn't much more expensive and isn't that significant a step up from a normal bolt pistols a Chapter likely has more Lascannons than master crafted bolt pistols. Consider that at one time in the IG codex there was a page that gave an in universe run down on a typical battalion, 200+ guardsmen and they only had 1 plasma gun, that was considered a relic reserved for the most dire of circumstances. At the same time we're told bolters and by extension storm bolters are rare, but they're common enough to stick on IG tanks and shipping containers... At that level of scarcity there are still more plasma guns and storm bolters in the galaxy than space marines, and they could in theory all be equipped with those weapons. The galaxy is huge and the way astartes bolters are described and venerated there is an argument to be made that their bolters and bolt pistols are all notionally master crafted, and by extension a master-crafter bolter is a master-of-master-crafted weapon.

On the table top what's the difference between the sculpt for a bolt pistol and a master crafted bolt pistol, a couple strokes of gold paint?

 Togusa wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
I just want to be able to freely equip my Primaris character from the armoury. The predetermined gear combos for characters is my biggest peeve with the Primaris, especially as many of the loadouts are completely idiotic. Gravis Captain has two expensive melee weapons, whilst Phohos Captains and Lieutenants with an ability to deploy close to the enemy do not get real melee weapons at all. It is so frustrating.

agreed. and even regular captains and lts have a really odd limiter that annoys me, the ability to take master crafted auto bolt rifles or stalker bolt rifles but not STANDARD bolt rifles. it drives me batty.

Why would a cappy carry a standard bolt gun? I would expect him to have a master crafted specialist bolt gun

I mean a styandard mastercrafted bolt rifle. not the assault or staslker varient.

BrianDavion wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
I just want to be able to freely equip my Primaris character from the armoury. The predetermined gear combos for characters is my biggest peeve with the Primaris, especially as many of the loadouts are completely idiotic. Gravis Captain has two expensive melee weapons, whilst Phohos Captains and Lieutenants with an ability to deploy close to the enemy do not get real melee weapons at all. It is so frustrating.

agreed. and even regular captains and lts have a really odd limiter that annoys me, the ability to take master crafted auto bolt rifles or stalker bolt rifles but not STANDARD bolt rifles. it drives me batty.

What makes it even funnier (and dumber) is the fact they got stalker bolt rifle option a year before model with it was released, said model being mega-limited-buy-me-now-only-in-GW-stores junk, so unless you happened to grab it during a few hours it was available, the bit does not exist for all intents and purposes...