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What powerlevel is Zarakynel even?
I doubt summoning her is even possible?

There's a different rule to Summon the FW Greater Greater Daemons, called 'Arch-Daemonic Ritual', or something like that.

IIRC, She's PL 23 and you have 4D6.

 Excommunicatus wrote:
There's a different rule to Summon the FW Greater Greater Daemons, called 'Arch-Daemonic Ritual', or something like that.

IIRC, She's PL 23 and you have 4D6.

It is 23, but you get 9d6. That will average 31.5, so you have a very good chance of pulling it off. However if you roll any triples in those 9 dice (which is pretty likely) the summoning character dies. If you get any doubles then they take a mortal wound - on 9 dice this is guaranteed, so not sure why they worded it that way...

 Stux wrote:

 Excommunicatus wrote:
There's a different rule to Summon the FW Greater Greater Daemons, called 'Arch-Daemonic Ritual', or something like that.

IIRC, She's PL 23 and you have 4D6.

It is 23, but you get 9d6. That will average 31.5, so you have a very good chance of pulling it off. However if you roll any triples in those 9 dice (which is pretty likely) the summoning character dies. If you get any doubles then they take a mortal wound - on 9 dice this is guaranteed, so not sure why they worded it that way...

To basically not abuse it?
Because that sure as hell blows up any Chaos charachter.

Right, but why say IF you roll any doubles? It's guaranteed. Just say you take a mortal would or die.

In fairness, including a Greater Greater Daemon in your list is a bad bad bad idea, Summoning one is even worse.

Don't do this.

They're fun to look at, but they're abysmal on the TT. I run Herself as a regular KoS, or She stays on the shelf.

 Excommunicatus wrote:
In fairness, including a Greater Greater Daemon in your list is a bad bad bad idea, Summoning one is even worse.

Don't do this.

They're fun to look at, but they're abysmal on the TT. I run Herself as a regular KoS, or She stays on the shelf.

But all Forgeworld is OP!

 Stux wrote:


But all Forgeworld is OP!

That's a misquote. Everyone know's it's actually "The only Forgeworld anyone ever wants to field are the OP!" Case in point, buying a Forgeworld greater demon and fielding it using the codex rules because the codex version is better.

Feth me for wanting to use a mini I spent nearly $300 on.

So just to follow up on something said earlier 100 points gets you 4 flamers which can be pretty good especially against soft units.