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Grey Templar wrote: Normally I'd agree that we should be humane to animals. But mice and rats are the exception for me. To hell with the vermin.
Stupid man-thing, rodents are good good. Go on busy-way and ignore rodents, yes yes.
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If you want a scary pest problem consider that - the result of invasive species with no natural predators.
Problem here is not the number of mice but how it can get to that level of infestation before anyone notices. The volume of squeaking, the cartoon like effect of opening a door, and rodents flooding out like a burst pipe.
Asleep on the job.
It's Oz though, so anything wild is dialed up to 11. You would have thought the snakes and spiders would have kept the rodents in check.
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n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion.
Frazzled wrote: 1. Rat terrier.
2. Mini sized wienie dog (thats a thing - Tbone: 8lb of mad dog predator.)
3. Call Disney. They will immediately send a team professionals to deal with this IP infringement.
Re: #3 - OMGLOL!!! Frazzled gets an exalt for that post!!
And, yes, I had a mini dachshund that was quite the yard hunter. She would frequently leave whatever she caught out in the yard for us to find on the back porch. It was only the female though, as the male could care less.
Orlanth wrote: You would have thought the snakes and spiders would have kept the rodents in check.
I think the problem is that the snakes and spiders have their own prey to eat off and the rodents are more resilient and breed far quicker than any native species can contend with. Rodents are also very good at surviving, they are highly opportunistic and have a wide range of food groups they'll happily eat from. Being a generalist with a fast breeding cycle and many young means that they are ideally suited for colonising and taking full advantage of any niche or gap in surviving. And their adaptive eating habits mean if they eat off one food group they can adapt and shift to a new one rather than having to die/migrate.
They are fantastic generalist survivors so they colonise new areas very readily; meanwhile established and stable ecosystems will often tend to build in more and more specialist species as they each find little niches to have of their own.
Squirrels in the UK are another great example. The red evolved to fill a niche in the chain and ate from a limited pool of food groups. The imported grey from America was a generalist and thus able to eat far more food groups. When the reds food supply dwindled they were left with a competing grey species dominating the same ecological spot ;but also out-breeding them. Issues with squirrelpox and such have made the situation even worse (greys carry it whilst reds die from it)
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Yeah, the reason it can happen so fast is because rodents breed exponentially. A mouse litter is usually 6-8(but can be as high as 14), and it takes only 21 days for gestation. They are sexually mature at 35 days. So less than 2 months after the first litter, the babies of that first litter can begin having babies of their own.
This can mean almost literal overnight explosions. Blink and you'll miss it.
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Grey Templar wrote: Yeah, the reason it can happen so fast is because rodents breed exponentially. A mouse litter is usually 6-8(but can be as high as 14), and it takes only 21 days for gestation. They are sexually mature at 35 days. So less than 2 months after the first litter, the babies of that first litter can begin having babies of their own.
This can mean almost literal overnight explosions. Blink and you'll miss it.
Grey Templar wrote: Yeah, the reason it can happen so fast is because rodents breed exponentially. A mouse litter is usually 6-8(but can be as high as 14), and it takes only 21 days for gestation. They are sexually mature at 35 days. So less than 2 months after the first litter, the babies of that first litter can begin having babies of their own.
This can mean almost literal overnight explosions. Blink and you'll miss it.
It isn't overnight though. Yes mice numbers grow exponentially but to get a zillion mice you have to pass a time a few weeks earlier where you had a few thousand mice, which is still a lot, and then a thousand or so mice a fortnight before, which is also a lot, but hidable. The population would have been visible for a least a month before it gets to this stage. If they are literally stacked on the floor before you open the door there is something wrong with your land management skills.
Note 0:57 ff, especially when she opens the door at 1:04 (image on screen).
i am trying to get my head around how it gets so bad before it is noticed while keeping her own live animals. The pigs must have been neglected to get to that state, or she drove them into a shack thick with mice without noticing, again neglect.
It is not like the mice were an invading swarm, but implied the bred themselves into a plague there. If a million mice swarm over the fields and into a farm overnight, yeah sympathies, but if you neglect your farm and a small rodent problem becomes a plague I have to lay some blame on the farmer.
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What probably happened was that horde of mice was somewhere else, ran out of food, and then traveled to look for food. Much like lemmings do. They could have been living out in the surrounding bush and then converged on the farm looking for food/water.
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Grey Templar wrote: What probably happened was that horde of mice was somewhere else, ran out of food, and then traveled to look for food. Much like lemmings do. They could have been living out in the surrounding bush and then converged on the farm looking for food/water.
I would agree but it is not what the video commentary implies. 1:37 ff
Once the mice found the farms food supply it 'didn't take long for their numbers to go through the roof.' Even if we cut this to a minimum two generations we are talking a month.
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Well we all know the media penchant for exaggeration and stretching of the truth.
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Frazzled wrote: 1. Rat terrier.
2. Mini sized wienie dog (thats a thing - Tbone: 8lb of mad dog predator.)
3. Call Disney. They will immediately send a team professionals to deal with this IP infringement.
I have 2 rat terrier mixes. They LOVE to kill rodents. They took care of some mice we had. We also had a mole in the basenent that our female took care of. She took 1 chomp, dropped it and was ready for the next.
For those unfamiliar, rat terriers look like a longer-legged Jack Russell. They get in the low 20lb weight range.
I use snap traps - if that does not kill them and I find them just caught - I'll finish them off and throw them to crows....
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Frazzled wrote: 1. Rat terrier.
2. Mini sized wienie dog (thats a thing - Tbone: 8lb of mad dog predator.)
3. Call Disney. They will immediately send a team professionals to deal with this IP infringement.
I have 2 rat terrier mixes. They LOVE to kill rodents. They took care of some mice we had. We also had a mole in the basenent that our female took care of. She took 1 chomp, dropped it and was ready for the next.
For those unfamiliar, rat terriers look like a longer-legged Jack Russell. They get in the low 20lb weight range.
Its my understanding that to a rat terrier, al life (up to and including elephants) are just different forms of rats to be eaten. Come on Bro, make a move!
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Dachshunds/teckels are the same way, no? I have no idea about the minis, but the teckels may as well be terriers... well, they are terriers, technically, given that they go to ground in search of quarry.
Bran Dawri wrote: So, recently, we went to visit the House of Mouse with the kids.
Ironically, when we came back, some actual mice had discovered our storecloset leaving their usual mess and nibbled stuffs.
So I've closed the hole with some steel wool and put up a new wall that's actually completely closed in said storage.
Going to put up some shelves in there and keep our foodstuffs in plastic boxes rather than just on the shelves.
Put down some traps as well, but they don't seem to like the food I put in.
I'd rather not resort to poison due to a) the smell of decomposing mice and b) one toddler who puts literally everything she gets her hands on in her mouth.
Anyone got any ideas what else I can do to get rid of our unwanted guests?
The ultimate rodent exterminator: Felis catus
My house cat is a one-feline Kill Team, purging the filthy vermin. And the outdoor cats rack up an impressive kill count too. Same for our Dachshund, who will wreck half the house to waste a cornered mouse.
Thanks to this layered defense, I haven't used traps or poison for years.
Find the routes they use, set snap traps at any chokepoints (orcreate same by adjusting furniture slightly and either let the trap kill them or finish them off if it just catches them.
Repeat as neccesary....
I AM A MARINE PLAYER
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
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Aye. It is inevitable that Cats shall rule the world one day. Best that we get in their good graces.
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Mr Morden wrote: Find the routes they use, set snap traps at any chokepoints (orcreate same by adjusting furniture slightly and either let the trap kill them or finish them off if it just catches them.
Mr Morden wrote: Find the routes they use, set snap traps at any chokepoints (orcreate same by adjusting furniture slightly and either let the trap kill them or finish them off if it just catches them.
Repeat as neccesary....
Talking about mice or cats?
Mice - Cats rule......
I AM A MARINE PLAYER
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
