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Totally calling that we're getting Arha as a separate miniature (i.e. he's NOT Drazhar). He's the rising phoenix that'll kill off Kharandras (the falling phoenix and another mini they don't have to make a plastic model for) and then Jain Zar and Kharandras will fight to be his BFF.

Based on nothing.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
But it's clearly not as customisable. Clearly. I mean, how can you not see that?

The 1KSons Terminators are like pretty much all the previous regular Terminator kits (with the exception of the BA Assault Terminator box). Any torso can go with any legs can go with any arm can go with any shoulder pad. The Plague Terminator kits have no such options. There are 5 bodies, and those bodies will always be the same (one with the Nurgling, one that's mutated into a fly with the tiny arms, and so on). You cannot mix and match as they're all set poses. The arms are built in their entirety, and whilst my kits are in the other room under too many other unbuilt things to find, I'd be willing to bet all the money in my wallet against all the money in your wallet that only certain torsos can take certain arms.

I started my post with "No matter how much some people want to deny it...", and, well, here we are.

Ha ha ha. No. First, BA assault terminator box was by far not the first monobody one. Even if we ignore metal termies, first would be BA space hulk ones, then hailed as the best looking TDA ever. Then followed SW, which were monobody in all but name (seeing all the furs, chains, belts, skulls, etc dangles didn't play nice with each other and most could only go on 1-2 opposite bits, not all 5) - sure, you can argue that with some shaving you could join all but it required so much cutting and scraping you could spare yourself the chore and just buy regular termies and paint them blue.

Then were BA ones, continuing trend, not being 'exception' at all, followed by DA terminator kit. Which is actually one of the worst in that regard, as the bodies (with the exception of 1-2 least fancy ones) literally have impression of leg belt and decorations, making them monobody, except uglier, less natural in pose, and with extra chore of putting together the with annoying level of precision lest it won't fit together just right and will look terrible. Just look here:


See the bottom middle one? It literally has impression of codpiece and belt, it's that "multipose". I'll take monobody all day over this junk, as it requires insane amount of bookkeeping. Did you used Legs A with generic Torso B? Then you can throw fancy Torso C into a garbage bin, as that was the only one that fit Legs A - and the kit is full of such traps. I put together a lot of termies for my DW recently, and that was by far the most annoying kit I had to deal with.

Then we have primaris 'terminators' (Gravis), monobody, DG ones (ditto), Japanese random termies (ditthree), and suddenly if anything is 'exception' here, it's the two Tartaros kits, not BA. And speaking of Tartaros, it's technically multipose, but the legs are all identical and in similar poses, so except for being able to rotate torso slightly (something hardly noticeable) and maybe some tiny compatibility with ancient TDA kits, there is hardly any gain here. Customizable? Not really, 95% of it lies in head and arm swaps, something perfectly possible with Primaris and other TDA, so, yeah, that was kind of weak denial

Take your "how customisable are current miniatures compared to past ones" chat elsewhere gents. This isn't the topic.

I'm remembering that the ynarri are one crone sword away from completing the set, I wonder if they could use that device to push the whole aeldari narrative forward and be the source of the craftworld Vs drukhari friction?

Interesting idea King, perhaps Draz has one of them? Or perhaps Drazhar IS a Crone Sword? Given his title of 'living blade'?

That would explain the pose. He isn't trying to whack someone with the hilt, he's singing Hawkwind's 'Song of the Swords'

"Take up the sword and take up me!"

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
Interesting idea King, perhaps Draz has one of them? Or perhaps Drazhar IS a Crone Sword? Given his title of 'living blade'?

Nah, Drazhar means "living blade" (so it is what he is called) so it is kinda unlikely.


And mainly why Drukhari (or rather, Overlord Vect) are kinda pissed at Ynnari sect because they kinda caused a massive breach into a webway that has lead to a massive daemonic invasion into the Dark City. And it may have also influenced directly/indirectly Vects assasination to some degree but that is very thin reasoning (expect for Vect). Although some just don't give a damn and have joined with Ynnari sect regardless.

Sotahullu wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
Interesting idea King, perhaps Draz has one of them? Or perhaps Drazhar IS a Crone Sword? Given his title of 'living blade'?

Nah, Drazhar means "living blade" (so it is what he is called) so it is kinda unlikely.

Yeah, it would be quite the coincidence for the Incubi to have named Arhra, I mean Drazhar, the "living blade" and he turn our to be a Crone Sword.
Besides, we all know Commanded Farsight of the T'au carries the last crone sword, which is the Dawn Blade. It acts like a crone sword (drainging life and giving it to the bearer) and even has a comparable name to the Twilight spear, which turned out to be a crone sword.

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I know that spikybits is not well received.. but this article is interesting and supposedly based on the code:

https://spikeybits.com/2019/10/hidden-in-plain-sight-40ks-next-3-psychic-awakening-rulebooks.html

Here's hoping Farsight will be featured in Psychic Awakening ...

 Galef wrote:

Sotahullu wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
Interesting idea King, perhaps Draz has one of them? Or perhaps Drazhar IS a Crone Sword? Given his title of 'living blade'?

Nah, Drazhar means "living blade" (so it is what he is called) so it is kinda unlikely.

Yeah, it would be quite the coincidence for the Incubi to have named Arhra, I mean Drazhar, the "living blade" and he turn our to be a Crone Sword.

Because 40k is known for it's subtle and slight storytelling, for sure.

Any body thought yet that maybe we could be getting a plastic Avatar?

I mean the Avatar is molten (aka pheonix rising). With the use of Warlock/Farseer it is also a kind of psychic awakening (tm) of sorts?

What do people think? Could we be getting that and howling banshees. How old is that Avatar model?

 ceorron wrote:
Any body thought yet that maybe we could be getting a plastic Avatar?

I mean the Avatar is molten (aka pheonix rising). With the use of Warlock/Farseer it is also a kind of psychic awakening (tm) of sorts?

What do people think? Could we be getting that and howling banshees. How old is that Avatar model?

Eldar deserve a plastic Avatar (of Khaine) model and I'm sure it's coming, but I'm not convinced it's coming with this particular release and with what various rumourmongers have stated.


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zamerion wrote:
I know that spikybits is not well received.. but this article is interesting and supposedly based on the code:

https://spikeybits.com/2019/10/hidden-in-plain-sight-40ks-next-3-psychic-awakening-rulebooks.html

From this I take only the locations really.

The theories for which factions could feature are a little bizarre. No Black Templar despite their ships referenced in the video? Don't see it myself.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 Galef wrote:

Sotahullu wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
Interesting idea King, perhaps Draz has one of them? Or perhaps Drazhar IS a Crone Sword? Given his title of 'living blade'?

Nah, Drazhar means "living blade" (so it is what he is called) so it is kinda unlikely.

Yeah, it would be quite the coincidence for the Incubi to have named Arhra, I mean Drazhar, the "living blade" and he turn our to be a Crone Sword.

Because 40k is known for it's subtle and slight storytelling, for sure.

Hate to break it to you guys but the Gathering Storm was pretty clear, the 5th Crone Sword is in the Eye of Terror, unless they are massively retconning things then it's not Drazhar.


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 ceorron wrote:
Any body thought yet that maybe we could be getting a plastic Avatar?

I mean the Avatar is molten (aka pheonix rising). With the use of Warlock/Farseer it is also a kind of psychic awakening (tm) of sorts?

What do people think? Could we be getting that and howling banshees. How old is that Avatar model?

We've probably seen all the models for this release already though, certainly no note to check back for more models on Monday after the Drazhar reveal.

 ceorron wrote:
Any body thought yet that maybe we could be getting a plastic Avatar?

I wish they would. Given what GW did with the plastic Greater Daemons, it's only fitting that the Eldar get something along those lines. A few different weapon/headdress options would be great.

 ceorron wrote:
How old is that Avatar model?

Ancient. One of the oldest minis in GW still makes.

The way I see it is that a phoenix rises from the dead, maybe a metaphor for a rebirth of the aeldari via a god of the dead being born?
So, wildly speculating, the overall theme could be the psychic backlash caused by the aeldari waking ynnead spreading across the galaxy.
Obviously this would put slaanesh's nose out of joint big time giving gw the fluff justification to bring out the emperors children and where slaanesh moves khorne won't be far behind. Thus rounding out the four main chaos legions.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 ceorron wrote:
Any body thought yet that maybe we could be getting a plastic Avatar?

I mean the Avatar is molten (aka pheonix rising). With the use of Warlock/Farseer it is also a kind of psychic awakening (tm) of sorts?

What do people think? Could we be getting that and howling banshees. How old is that Avatar model?

Eldar deserve a plastic Avatar (of Khaine) model and I'm sure it's coming, but I'm not convinced it's coming with this particular release and with what various rumourmongers have stated.


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zamerion wrote:
I know that spikybits is not well received.. but this article is interesting and supposedly based on the code:

https://spikeybits.com/2019/10/hidden-in-plain-sight-40ks-next-3-psychic-awakening-rulebooks.html

From this I take only the locations really.

The theories for which factions could feature are a little bizarre. No Black Templar despite their ships referenced in the video? Don't see it myself.

Given the pictures of planets in the initial advert, Terra seems a decent candidate (the one with the belt of ships and starforts). Is the red world with a spaceport ring a reused image of Baal?

Yeah, a plastic avatar update would be fantastic - so long as it doesn't wind up being 12" tall, and floating in the air surrounded by masses of swirly lava...

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 ceorron wrote:
Any body thought yet that maybe we could be getting a plastic Avatar?

I wish they would. Given what GW did with the plastic Greater Daemons, it's only fitting that the Eldar get something along those lines. A few different weapon/headdress options would be great.

 ceorron wrote:
How old is that Avatar model?

Ancient. One of the oldest minis in GW still makes.

I could easily see 3 head/face options and then at a minimum sword and spear options. Why they haven't just scanned the fw one into plastic long ago I have no idea.

 insaniak wrote:
Yeah, a plastic avatar update would be fantastic - so long as it doesn't wind up being 12" tall, and floating in the air surrounded by masses of swirly lava...

Yeah we don't need more examples of GW's endless swirly bull gak.

Boots on the ground for Mr. Avatar would be the preferred option here. I do wonder what other interesting weapon they could give him besides sword/spear. What would fit? A glaive of some sort?

(Random Aside: In looking up those pics I found that this is nearly twice the price of this. WTF? How does that make any sense? )

I keep seeing that Ynnari model and being tempted to buy one to try converting it to not have the swirly gak, but sadly my disposable income isn't what it used to be, so I can't really justify buying it just for novelty value...

They're ghosts?

And so is Yncarne, he never "walks" in the lore and has Fly keyword.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 insaniak wrote:
Yeah, a plastic avatar update would be fantastic - so long as it doesn't wind up being 12" tall, and floating in the air surrounded by masses of swirly lava...

Yeah we don't need more examples of GW's endless swirly bull gak.

Boots on the ground for Mr. Avatar would be the preferred option here. I do wonder what other interesting weapon they could give him besides sword/spear. What would fit? A glaive of some sort?

(Random Aside: In looking up those pics I found that this is nearly twice the price of this. WTF? How does that make any sense? )

The black Coach as cool as it looks is an insanely priced model in an , in average , absurdly expensive model range (AoS). That compared with a Fantasy and older model.... yeah.

The plastic Black Coach absolutely dwarfs the old model. Seriously, it makes it look like the old Black Coach is carrying a halfling Vampire...

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 insaniak wrote:
Yeah, a plastic avatar update would be fantastic - so long as it doesn't wind up being 12" tall, and floating in the air surrounded by masses of swirly lava...

Yeah we don't need more examples of GW's endless swirly bull gak.

Boots on the ground for Mr. Avatar would be the preferred option here. I do wonder what other interesting weapon they could give him besides sword/spear. What would fit? A glaive of some sort?

(Random Aside: In looking up those pics I found that this is nearly twice the price of this. WTF? How does that make any sense? )

The cynic in me suspects that WHFB has something to do with it. Like, GW really wants you to buy their new AOS specific stuff, so they either overprice plastic models that were in WHFB, or keep models in finecast (which tend to be overpriced. See: Blood Knights).

But then again, the new Black Coach was released for Age of Sigmar, so I dunno. Its pretty weird though.

Things that come out later are priced higher. Its functionally how they do price hikes these days. Though thats an extreme example.


Agree on the swirly junk. And 'dynamic' models.

zamerion wrote:
I know that spikybits is not well received.. but this article is interesting and supposedly based on the code:

https://spikeybits.com/2019/10/hidden-in-plain-sight-40ks-next-3-psychic-awakening-rulebooks.html

For good reason. They're leading book 2 with the army that's just about to get a codex.
Unless book 2 is years away (which it isn't), there's zero reason for anything Sisters not to be in their own codex.

I love lots of new models, they are amazing, regardless of oil companies lobbying their interests through ghosts and vampires toys. But Avatar should be based on old art and stand on the ground, of course.

https://i.redd.it/p52ghtfhyx011.jpg

 Shadenuat wrote:
I love lots of new models, they are amazing, regardless of oil companies lobbying their interests through ghosts and vampires toys. But Avatar should be based on old art and stand on the ground, of course.

https://i.redd.it/p52ghtfhyx011.jpg

Mark Gibbons illustrating Jes Goodwin's designs is peak 40k for me. No.art has the quality of that combo

Agreed on the artwork. A new model that could encapsulate that would be amazing. Gotta be on the ground too.

As a tween I can remember staring at that art, knowing full well I didn't have the money to buy an Avatar of my own.

Now I do and I hope GW can satisfy 1992 me.

yeah some of the "dynamic models" seem to be designed by people who forget that the minis are intended to be used in play. I can think of a few minis I think look great and would love to have in a display case but would hate to TRANSPORT.