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Not OP lol I can't even bring myself to buy one.

It might have found use as anti flyer duty with the skytalon array. That gun is pretty slick. And soak OW, etc. Buut the stalker exists so meh.

 Daedalus81 wrote:

 Ishagu wrote:
People are talking about Hellblasters in an Impulsor.

It's cheaper and better to teleport in Inceptors.

It can be used to fly over and then walk up to a character or vulnerable unit, but it would be rare for that to work better than some snipers.

It does move far but it is also pretty large. That would be pretty difficult except for late game with less models around.

Yeah that's what I mean. It does have some particular niche functions but it's by no means an overpowered or mandatory unit.

People genuinely think this is OP?

DakkaDakka has definitely jumped the shark on this. Unless this was a troll/bait thread, I'd be seriously pointing you at genuine OP stuff than this floating pick up truck.

I'm just going to give mine a rocket launcher and use it to shunt around an intercessor squad and charge enemy units with its high movement speed and d6 explosion.

 Dr. Mills wrote:
People genuinely think this is OP?

You could put up a poll asking if the inquisition are OP and you'd get at least a 20% yes.

I voted no OP due to the limited units that will be useful in the Impulsor.
While I do think there is value in carrying Hellblaster WITH a support character where then need to be early and protecting them Turn 1, as mentioned Inceptors are probably better.

But I feel it's important to know some of the cons that Inceptors have that Hellblasters + Impulsor do not:
A) Inceptors have to wait until turn 2 to drop in, Hellblasters in an Impulsor can do their thing turn 1
B) Inceptors often aren't near character support and will lose more for each 1 rolled

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Land Raiders should be Assault Vehicle, but oh well.

Also, not OP.

I have seen plasma inceptors backfire way too many times to consider them a great pick.

Martel732 wrote:
I have seen plasma inceptors backfire way too many times to consider them a great pick.

Not great - but probably better than hellblasters plus transport.

Not OP, finally having a transport with an Invulnerable might just make transports useful again.

Leaving the assault vehicle rule to this vehicle and not for all the other PROPER assault vehicles is just so cinical, even for GW.

This thing would be OP if it was open topped as opposed to an "assault vehicle"

I swear something was lost in translation here. We got a 40k El Camino though so there's that lol

 fraser1191 wrote:
This thing would be OP if it was open topped as opposed to an "assault vehicle"

I swear something was lost in translation here. We got a 40k El Camino though so there's that lol

Yeah if open topped it would be hella OP. LOL. Then the 4++ would really be auto include.

 Galef wrote:
I voted no OP due to the limited units that will be useful in the Impulsor.
While I do think there is value in carrying Hellblaster WITH a support character where then need to be early and protecting them Turn 1, as mentioned Inceptors are probably better.

But I feel it's important to know some of the cons that Inceptors have that Hellblasters + Impulsor do not:
A) Inceptors have to wait until turn 2 to drop in, Hellblasters in an Impulsor can do their thing turn 1
B) Inceptors often aren't near character support and will lose more for each 1 rolled

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how about using them with IH rules? sniper bolters, re-roll one build in, with a transport with a beefy+4inv, supported by 3 units of eliminators and a sniper assasin. Could be fun to play with.

 Galas wrote:
Leaving the assault vehicle rule to this vehicle and not for all the other PROPER assault vehicles is just so cinical, even for GW.

*laughs in White Scar*

What's the pts on this thing & it's various upgrades? And it's co$t?

Just under 90 points in the optimal config as I recall it.

79 base and 97 for an invuln

I wouldnt be surpised if someone spams like 6 of these for a gimmick list

 Smirrors wrote:
79 base and 97 for an invuln

I wouldnt be surpised if someone spams like 6 of these for a gimmick list

If SW could take it (IDK if they can yet) i would do this lol.

 Amishprn86 wrote:

 Smirrors wrote:
79 base and 97 for an invuln

I wouldnt be surpised if someone spams like 6 of these for a gimmick list

If SW could take it (IDK if they can yet) i would do this lol.

According to the SPACE MARINE AUGUST UPDATE, Wolves can take the Impulsor

Hot damn, once my Deepkin, Tau, and Necrons finish selling on the ebays i might do that!


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PS, going to give it a couple months to make sure GW doesnt change them for the worst after they sell well lol.

BrianDavion wrote:
Just under 90 points in the optimal config as I recall it.

You'll have to be more specific as to what the optimal configuration is as I didn't get that memo.


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 Smirrors wrote:
79 base and 97 for an invuln

Is that the most expensive configuration?

ccs wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
Just under 90 points in the optimal config as I recall it.

You'll have to be more specific as to what the optimal configuration is as I didn't get that memo.


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 Smirrors wrote:
79 base and 97 for an invuln

Is that the most expensive configuration?

optimal confi is proably paired stormbolters a 4++ and no other addons.

It's the internal screwiness I mind more than any OPness. I could take a Rhino for 75pts, or for another 20pts I could get the same thing but with Fly, a 4++, and the ability to carry better units? It doesn't have to take the tournament scene by storm to be a giant middle finger to the older stuff in the book.

Not OP. It just has some neat little tricks it can do.

Being able to move a squad 14+3+6+d6 inches (movement of the Impulsor + disembark range + intercessor movement range + intercessor advance) is a pretty great way to get those squads into a favorable position and pen the enemy into their half of the board, or to fly over units and cap backfield objectives quite quickly.

You could also take a couple of them for Orbital Bombardment purposes. Between them, the stratagem, and some Incursors with mines and Eliminators, you can start to load up the mortal wounds on the enemy and bring down even some really tough foes. You'd only be able to use those orbital bombardments once a turn, and when one Impulsor is done, tha'ts it, the use is finished. But hey, anything that can help you snipe out backfield camping units is nice.

The shield dome is nice for that 4++. It's a great upgrade for keeping things alive but... Is it really necessary at the end of the day? It's really just an annoyance, but it could keep your opponent from getting first strike if you're clever.

The missile launcher is the best for the offensive punch, since it can literally target whatever you want. It becomes like a weaker razorback or whirlwind at that point, but I guess it can fly. The Ironhail skytalon array is... very meh. s4 ap-1 but hey, it gets 6 shots and gets a bonus to targetting things that can fly...? Meh.

It's base loadout is just 2 storm bolters, so other than the extra weapons, it's offensive power is really wimpy. Also, keep in mind that units that disembark from it after it moves can't charge but they CAN advance, which is pretty sneaky. You could conceivably use it to get some Librarians into some good positions to get the Smites that you want.

I think the main issue is that it's transport capacity is only 6, and can't fit Gravis models. That limits it to: Reivers, Incursors, Intercessors, Infiltrators, Hellblasters, and Eliminators. Of those, only Intercessors and Hellblasters don't have a way of being deployed further up the field (Concealed positions works for most of those, and Reivers can deep strike with a cheaper upgrade).

Ok, so you can transport 5-man squads of Intercessors and Hellblasters. Of those, the Stalker Bolter and Heavy Plasma Incinerator versions aren't useful to be transported, so it's down to the rapid fire and assault versions of each of their weapons.

Hellblasters would turn the Impulsor into a juicy target, so maybe you would want the 4++ on it in that case, keeping your hellblasters alive so they can strike back if you don't get turn 1.

Otherwise, taking a 5-man squad of Intercessors with a sgt with a power fist or thunder hammer and giving them the 1cp version of Veteran Intercessors might not be a bad way to go. It'd be relatively cheap yet hit pretty hard.

The Impulsor also has the -2 to charge ranges for enemies. A combination of them + Infiltrators can make it very hard for your opponent to get first turn charges if you screen appropriately. That alone may make it good against certain armies.

Still, after all of those little uses, it's situational. Not op.

Not sure it's OP but it shows a huge problem with points cost for other similar units (rhino).

I didn't even need to read the rules or see the pts to know impulsively that it was going to be OP. /s

It has already topped a grand tournament. It isn't even out yet. Saying that it is anything other than OP does not make sense. Have fun with your balanced IH Impuslors. "It's just a friendly Impulsor list dude, why do you have to be so mad about my 84 pt Wave Serpents?"

How can anyone think its not OP ?? The orbital comms array is 18 pts., which is the same as orbital bombardment, which is 3 CP. If you take 6 impulsors with OCA you save yourself 18CP. And you can bombard your enemy castle back to the stone age. Its even better than orbital bombardment, because its doesnt have to be visible to your warlord. Its just one point on the battlefield, no LOS needed.

 p5freak wrote:
How can anyone think its not OP ?? The orbital comms array for 18 pts., which is the same as orbital bombardment, which is 3 CP. If you take 6 impulsors with OCA you save yourself 18CP. And you can bombard your enemy castle back to the stone age.

Sounds devastating.
But you don't take it as a transport option.
Transports are tactically very useful even for Marines.