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 ImAGeek wrote:

 Sarouan wrote:
Yeah, given on that list there is the new book for Warcry and since it's likely GW will put all the profiles in it, assuming it's accurate, I bet the Warcry boxes at 65 $ would be a repackaging without the cards, and certainly a few more basic miniatures inside. A bit like the Blackstone Fortress miniatures boxes.

There’s no way to just ‘add a few basic miniatures’ because of how the sprues are layed out. You’d have to double the sprues for more models.

It looks like most of the warbands consist of three sprues. I'm not sure of the model breakdown is, but it could be possible to add one or two of the sprues that have basic trooper models if the sprues are laid out that way.

 Ghaz wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Sarouan wrote:
Yeah, given on that list there is the new book for Warcry and since it's likely GW will put all the profiles in it, assuming it's accurate, I bet the Warcry boxes at 65 $ would be a repackaging without the cards, and certainly a few more basic miniatures inside. A bit like the Blackstone Fortress miniatures boxes.

There’s no way to just ‘add a few basic miniatures’ because of how the sprues are layed out. You’d have to double the sprues for more models.

It looks like most of the warbands consist of three sprues. I'm not sure of the model breakdown is, but it could be possible to add one or two of the sprues that have basic trooper models if the sprues are laid out that way.

They’re pretty mixed across the sprues, from what I remember building mine.

PlaguePony wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
So does this pretty much prove that price list then? That’s disappointing.

Everything on the 2nd was correct incl pricing
Red paint handle was a wierd price on the list but is on the list as are the paint pot holders and the stick everyone laughed about and others so the % of it being more correct is going up

Red painting handle is a pack of 6, it's still more expensive than 6 black ones but I think it's believable as it may be a limited edition.

Samko wrote:

PlaguePony wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
So does this pretty much prove that price list then? That’s disappointing.

Everything on the 2nd was correct incl pricing
Red paint handle was a wierd price on the list but is on the list as are the paint pot holders and the stick everyone laughed about and others so the % of it being more correct is going up

Red painting handle is a pack of 6, it's still more expensive than 6 black ones but I think it's believable as it may be a limited edition.

and they make your painting go faster

 Eiríkr wrote:
Pretty much all of the list is accurate. I know that there is some dismay at the size of this leak over on Lenton Lane.



Source: GW HQ.

But what about the commas instead of the dots in the prices? And what about the high prices? And the product names slightly different or "incorrect" codes?

 Aenar wrote:

 Eiríkr wrote:
Pretty much all of the list is accurate. I know that there is some dismay at the size of this leak over on Lenton Lane.



Source: GW HQ.

But what about the commas instead of the dots in the prices? And what about the high prices? And the product names slightly different or "incorrect" codes?

Well, if that's true, I do believe we won't have a funny video about dumb people working at GW and leaking "by accident", this time.

 Aenar wrote:

 Eiríkr wrote:
Pretty much all of the list is accurate. I know that there is some dismay at the size of this leak over on Lenton Lane.



Source: GW HQ.

And what about the high prices?

Come on now.

Voss wrote:
So its to demonstrate usage in a way you'd never use it?
Gotcha.

Plus, with the models so close together and the base sides covered (I prime those, personally)... it doesn't seem particularly useful. Are you supposed to turn the models inside the rubber bands to get to areas you can't reach/are blocked by other models? What about underside angles? Those seem entirely blocked.

I'm used to spraying in a box to block wind- this seems actively obtuse to use effectively.

It's to demonstrate its used with a spray can. This might be crazy, but you know that even though the picture shows Marines in it, you can use other models too?!

If they were to show the can 15cm away, the thing they're trying to sell you would be a wee bit small. Again, you survive similar abstract marketing shots daily, so hopefully you can navigate through this one.

And if only they let you set how far apart your models were yourself... Wait, actually they did. You don't like them next to eachother? Put less on.

This isn't something I'm going to use now since since I have a spray booth and I'm not sure this would even fit in it, but back in the old days of spraying models in my back garden it would have been useful.

It's a nice stocking filler.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Sarouan wrote:
Yeah, given on that list there is the new book for Warcry and since it's likely GW will put all the profiles in it, assuming it's accurate, I bet the Warcry boxes at 65 $ would be a repackaging without the cards, and certainly a few more basic miniatures inside. A bit like the Blackstone Fortress miniatures boxes.

There’s no way to just ‘add a few basic miniatures’ because of how the sprues are layed out. You’d have to double the sprues for more models.

It looks like most of the warbands consist of three sprues. I'm not sure of the model breakdown is, but it could be possible to add one or two of the sprues that have basic trooper models if the sprues are laid out that way.

They’re pretty mixed across the sprues, from what I remember building mine.

Honestly I'd imagine each warband has its own steel mould. So even if they have separate sprue blocks, the whole thing comes out of one mould. So splitting it up likely isn't even possible.


Without confirmation either way I'm really torn as part of me wants to buy loads of warbands before a price hike.

Crazyterran wrote:The Oldheim Ogres were the old team name for the Ogre Team, so maybe its what they used internally until the came up with the new one?

Except the name has to be nailed down months in advance to print the boxes. So it's an odd thing to be up in the air when typing up an order form.

I work in a manufacturing company, and we will always have an internal name for a device. At some point during its manufacturing cycle marketing will brand it for the customer end, but internally we tend to stick with what we've always called it.

I can't see if being much different anywhere else. Oldheim was most likely the working name, and internally it's stuck.

I will be disappointed if GW doesn't refer to painting stick rubber bands as warbands.

jullevi wrote:
I will be disappointed if GW doesn't refer to painting stick rubber bands as warbands.

I wouldn’t put it past them to sell rubber band refills under that name

The leak has kinda ruined the "excitement" of Christmas releases now. Also it is disappointing to have it confirmed that there are no model releases for psychic awakening other than the sorcerer. Has anyone actually seen any images of this guy?

I'm still excited to find out what's in the Battleforce boxes.

And really excited to see what gauge of shotgun they've chosen to shoot themselves in the foot with over the prices.

jullevi wrote:
I will be disappointed if GW doesn't refer to painting stick rubber bands as warbands.

Citadel™ FineBands™.

 Nostromodamus wrote:

jullevi wrote:
I will be disappointed if GW doesn't refer to painting stick rubber bands as warbands.

I wouldn’t put it past them to sell rubber band refills under that name

Will they do refills, or just expect you to buy a whole new stickset?

 Axlbush wrote:
The leak has kinda ruined the "excitement" of Christmas releases now. Also it is disappointing to have it confirmed that there are no model releases for psychic awakening other than the sorcerer. Has anyone actually seen any images of this guy?

well part of him anyway



I can't remember if anybody has spotted him in any art so we know roughly what the rest will look like

 Axlbush wrote:
The leak has kinda ruined the "excitement" of Christmas releases now. Also it is disappointing to have it confirmed that there are no model releases for psychic awakening other than the sorcerer. Has anyone actually seen any images of this guy?

Well sisters are getting the sisters things.
BA are getting Primaris Mephiston.
CSM are getting a new sorcerer.

The most disappointing thing for me is that poor Nids are getting.... (wait for it).....2 repackaged units.

If any xenos players were under an illusion that they aren't bottom of the barrel, lowest of the low in terms of the GW hierarchy hopefully this clears things up for them.

What a joke.

I'd expect that stylistically the sorcerer will match the Dark Apostle and Master of Executions (so thick metal bands at the joints and shoulder pads), and have a mutant head and helmet option.
Probably something on fire.

Cheers. To be honest I am not too inspired by that but let's hope he is a beaut. Not keen on the existing models.

The battleboxes ARE something to look forward to, I guess.

 Crazyterran wrote:
The Oldheim Ogres were the old team name for the Ogre Team, so maybe its what they used internally until the came up with the new one?

The Ogre Team having 4 Ogres and 12 snotlings is more than they usually include in a box, that's pretty swell. I think 4o/8s/4rr is the usual starting roster, no?

But the amount of time ago they must have made the packaging and all that, by the time this list was made they wouldn’t be using the old name still.

Also, I thought this was ‘meant to be’ a distributor list or some such?

 Axlbush wrote:
The leak has kinda ruined the "excitement" of Christmas releases now.

Why? We knew they're coming, we just didn't know what factions are getting them--but for Age of Sigmar the factions coming(Gloomspite Gitz, Stormcast Sacrosanct Chamber, Nighthaunt, and Skaven) were a Good Bet.

Also it is disappointing to have it confirmed that there are no model releases for psychic awakening other than the sorcerer. Has anyone actually seen any images of this guy?

Did you consider that maybe the lack of releases is because we just got a rather substantial Space Marines book release?

In light of this week's accurate predictions, I am giving the prices a second look. I hope the Bonereaper prices are correct. Just £30 for the Harvester and £50 for the crawler are surprisingly reasonable by modern gw standards. Even Katakros himself is an ok price at £65 . I was expecting him to cost the same as a Keeper.

Obispudkenobi wrote:

 DaveC wrote:

Obispudkenobi wrote:
List is fake , it's missing several dead cert Christmas items
No mega paint sets and no special miniature cases
These two things have been released in November for decades .
Plus GW put out contrast paints this year so they would be one of the dead cert bundles for xmas

Are these direct only (I can't remember) and would they appear on retailers list if they are? not trying to argue one way or another for the authenticity of the list but I don't think the lack of these definitely makes it fake.

Paint sets and cases are limited stock but on general sale including Indies , they are a staple of the festive period ,even more than battleforces. A list without the mega paint set like this in would say 100%fake.

There’s not been a film range mega paint set since 2016.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Did you consider that maybe the lack of releases is because we just got a rather substantial Space Marines book release?

Why would it? Psychic Awakening isn't just about Marines. Hell, the first release for it was two flavours of Eldar.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 Axlbush wrote:
The leak has kinda ruined the "excitement" of Christmas releases now. Also it is disappointing to have it confirmed that there are no model releases for psychic awakening other than the sorcerer. Has anyone actually seen any images of this guy?

Well sisters are getting the sisters things.
BA are getting Primaris Mephiston.
CSM are getting a new sorcerer.

The most disappointing thing for me is that poor Nids are getting.... (wait for it).....2 repackaged units.

If any xenos players were under an illusion that they aren't bottom of the barrel, lowest of the low in terms of the GW hierarchy hopefully this clears things up for them.

What a joke.

Yeah its disappointing that Nids won't get any new models, still looking forward to see what's in the battle box though..repackaging though.. new box art and maybe new bases ..wouldn't have killed them to do anew biomorph frame for the Gants at least..[a love the termagant kit but a wee refresh with some new options would have gone a long way... even another clam pack character to buy other than a broodlord ..] relatively speaking Eldar did very well..

 silverstu wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 Axlbush wrote:
The leak has kinda ruined the "excitement" of Christmas releases now. Also it is disappointing to have it confirmed that there are no model releases for psychic awakening other than the sorcerer. Has anyone actually seen any images of this guy?

Well sisters are getting the sisters things.
BA are getting Primaris Mephiston.
CSM are getting a new sorcerer.

The most disappointing thing for me is that poor Nids are getting.... (wait for it).....2 repackaged units.

If any xenos players were under an illusion that they aren't bottom of the barrel, lowest of the low in terms of the GW hierarchy hopefully this clears things up for them.

What a joke.

Yeah its disappointing that Nids won't get any new models, still looking forward to see what's in the battle box though..repackaging though.. new box art and maybe new bases ..wouldn't have killed them to do anew biomorph frame for the Gants at least..[a love the termagant kit but a wee refresh with some new options would have gone a long way... even another clam pack character to buy other than a broodlord ..] relatively speaking Eldar did very well..

Or even monstrous rending claws to go on our tyrants....

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 Axlbush wrote:
The leak has kinda ruined the "excitement" of Christmas releases now. Also it is disappointing to have it confirmed that there are no model releases for psychic awakening other than the sorcerer. Has anyone actually seen any images of this guy?

Well sisters are getting the sisters things.
BA are getting Primaris Mephiston.
CSM are getting a new sorcerer.

The most disappointing thing for me is that poor Nids are getting.... (wait for it).....2 repackaged units.

If any xenos players were under an illusion that they aren't bottom of the barrel, lowest of the low in terms of the GW hierarchy hopefully this clears things up for them.

What a joke.

It took 20 years and 100000 people begging GW on their own community survey to manage an underwhelming line update and incredibly mediocre codex for sisters of battle.

Inquisition has taken so many hits and gotten so little back that they're not even really a faction anymore.

Grey Knights. Just...Grey Knights.

You're not even close to the bottom.

ERJAK wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 Axlbush wrote:
The leak has kinda ruined the "excitement" of Christmas releases now. Also it is disappointing to have it confirmed that there are no model releases for psychic awakening other than the sorcerer. Has anyone actually seen any images of this guy?

Well sisters are getting the sisters things.
BA are getting Primaris Mephiston.
CSM are getting a new sorcerer.

The most disappointing thing for me is that poor Nids are getting.... (wait for it).....2 repackaged units.

If any xenos players were under an illusion that they aren't bottom of the barrel, lowest of the low in terms of the GW hierarchy hopefully this clears things up for them.

What a joke.

It took 20 years and 100000 people begging GW on their own community survey to manage an underwhelming line update and incredibly mediocre codex for sisters of battle.

Inquisition has taken so many hits and gotten so little back that they're not even really a faction anymore.

Grey Knights. Just...Grey Knights.

You're not even close to the bottom.

and yet none of those are mainline factions who have been around since when?

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
The most disappointing thing for me is that poor Nids are getting.... (wait for it).....2 repackaged units.

If any xenos players were under an illusion that they aren't bottom of the barrel, lowest of the low in terms of the GW hierarchy hopefully this clears things up for them.

Tyranids have a massive range of miniatures that is almost entirely plastic. What are you talking about?