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Question, although I know no one will know 100%, but first time being around a "reboxing".

Got a lucky break to find a hive tyrant box for about $45, that I'm picking up tomorrow. Should I hold off? I only have 1, so I really want a second... and I'd kick myself if they "rebox" and shoot the price up needlessly.

Pick it up

Keramory wrote:
Question, although I know no one will know 100%, but first time being around a "reboxing".

Got a lucky break to find a hive tyrant box for about $45, that I'm picking up tomorrow. Should I hold off? I only have 1, so I really want a second... and I'd kick myself if they "rebox" and shoot the price up needlessly.

If you want/"need" to have one, get it.

Sometimes the reboxes have been nothing more than a change to the box art and the rules included, sometimes(Carnifex Brood comes to mind here) it doubles the models and price. Sometimes it just increases the price.

 nintura wrote:

ERJAK wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 Axlbush wrote:
The leak has kinda ruined the "excitement" of Christmas releases now. Also it is disappointing to have it confirmed that there are no model releases for psychic awakening other than the sorcerer. Has anyone actually seen any images of this guy?

Well sisters are getting the sisters things.
BA are getting Primaris Mephiston.
CSM are getting a new sorcerer.

The most disappointing thing for me is that poor Nids are getting.... (wait for it).....2 repackaged units.

If any xenos players were under an illusion that they aren't bottom of the barrel, lowest of the low in terms of the GW hierarchy hopefully this clears things up for them.

What a joke.

It took 20 years and 100000 people begging GW on their own community survey to manage an underwhelming line update and incredibly mediocre codex for sisters of battle.

Inquisition has taken so many hits and gotten so little back that they're not even really a faction anymore.

Grey Knights. Just...Grey Knights.

You're not even close to the bottom.

and yet none of those are mainline factions who have been around since when?

Pretty sure Sisters of Battle of been around since 2nd edition, as BTW have genestealer cults who where squatted until recently.

It is a truth universally acknowledged that any thread about a GW release will feature people complaining that the release isn't something else.

expecting many new minis in december is silly. heck I'm suprised GW is putting out as much new stuff in december as this list seems to suggest

BrianDavion wrote:

 nintura wrote:

ERJAK wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 Axlbush wrote:
The leak has kinda ruined the "excitement" of Christmas releases now. Also it is disappointing to have it confirmed that there are no model releases for psychic awakening other than the sorcerer. Has anyone actually seen any images of this guy?

Well sisters are getting the sisters things.
BA are getting Primaris Mephiston.
CSM are getting a new sorcerer.

The most disappointing thing for me is that poor Nids are getting.... (wait for it).....2 repackaged units.

If any xenos players were under an illusion that they aren't bottom of the barrel, lowest of the low in terms of the GW hierarchy hopefully this clears things up for them.

What a joke.

It took 20 years and 100000 people begging GW on their own community survey to manage an underwhelming line update and incredibly mediocre codex for sisters of battle.

Inquisition has taken so many hits and gotten so little back that they're not even really a faction anymore.

Grey Knights. Just...Grey Knights.

You're not even close to the bottom.

and yet none of those are mainline factions who have been around since when?

Pretty sure Sisters of Battle of been around since 2nd edition, as BTW have genestealer cults who where squatted until recently.

And im sure nids have been around since RT. Yes sisters need it. Bit saying nids shouldnt or we shouldn’t be expecting something more just because grey knights didnt, is wrong. And GSC are NOT the same thing as pure tyranids. Or otherwise id say sisters, gk, and inquisitors shouldnt get anything because marines got new stuff

I'm more surprised people are shocked GW raised prices so soon a new game system when they just had the dumbly priced Eldar box out. Obviously they are the crank and yank plan.

Crank out the kits, yank out your wallet and drain out the moneyt if you want it. At this point I think they will just keep pressing up the cost till people say enough which who knows when that'll be. Plenty of people are more than willing to gobble it up no matter the cost.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 Axlbush wrote:
The leak has kinda ruined the "excitement" of Christmas releases now. Also it is disappointing to have it confirmed that there are no model releases for psychic awakening other than the sorcerer. Has anyone actually seen any images of this guy?

Well sisters are getting the sisters things.
BA are getting Primaris Mephiston.
CSM are getting a new sorcerer.

The most disappointing thing for me is that poor Nids are getting.... (wait for it).....2 repackaged units.

If any xenos players were under an illusion that they aren't bottom of the barrel, lowest of the low in terms of the GW hierarchy hopefully this clears things up for them.

What a joke.

Well so far it's the xenos who have got most new models in PA.

I wonder where the Killteam Inquisition expansion ('leaked' by GW in one of the KT books) went? I thought we would see it sometime after the WD article but it doesn't look like it will happen anytime soon according to these lists.

ERJAK wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 Axlbush wrote:
The leak has kinda ruined the "excitement" of Christmas releases now. Also it is disappointing to have it confirmed that there are no model releases for psychic awakening other than the sorcerer. Has anyone actually seen any images of this guy?

Well sisters are getting the sisters things.
BA are getting Primaris Mephiston.
CSM are getting a new sorcerer.

The most disappointing thing for me is that poor Nids are getting.... (wait for it).....2 repackaged units.

If any xenos players were under an illusion that they aren't bottom of the barrel, lowest of the low in terms of the GW hierarchy hopefully this clears things up for them.

What a joke.

It took 20 years and 100000 people begging GW on their own community survey to manage an underwhelming line update and incredibly mediocre codex for sisters of battle.

Inquisition has taken so many hits and gotten so little back that they're not even really a faction anymore.

Grey Knights. Just...Grey Knights.

You're not even close to the bottom.

Sisters - getting entire new line and have had over 12 months of previews on a weekly basis.

Inquisition - literally getting a focus in next WD, lots of new models coming according to this leak.

Grey Knights - have been one of the strongest competitive factions since their release until this edition. Had one of the first codexes released. Rumoured to be getting a massive update in PA that will take them to SM levels of competitiveness.

Please can you at least pretend to look at what's happening in the real world rather than your victim fantasy dream before posting in future.

Inquisition are literally getting infinitely more models than Nids this release. How many models have Nids had since 8th dropped again? 0?

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
Inquisition - literally getting a focus in next WD, lots of new models coming according to this leak.

Yeah. Lots of "new" models.

What models are inquisition getting?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
The most disappointing thing for me is that poor Nids are getting.... (wait for it).....2 repackaged units.

If any xenos players were under an illusion that they aren't bottom of the barrel, lowest of the low in terms of the GW hierarchy hopefully this clears things up for them.

Tyranids have a massive range of miniatures that is almost entirely plastic. What are you talking about?

How many updated models have they had this edition?

How about Marines? Or CSM? Or even Inquisition shortly?


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 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
Inquisition - literally getting a focus in next WD, lots of new models coming according to this leak.

Yeah. Lots of "new" models.

Are they resculpts? Re-releases? Do you know something we all don't?

I’m fairly sure the Inquisition stuff will likely just be repackaged metal models, just to have them more prominent on the webpage.

I think it’ll be a MTO on the Inq models if it’s true. I would love to be proved wrong though.

diepotato47 wrote:
I’m fairly sure the Inquisition stuff will likely just be repackaged metal models, just to have them more prominent on the webpage.

Fair enough if that's the case, the list implies otherwise given it states that the Nid stuff is repackaging while the Inq stuff doesn't.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
Are they resculpts? Re-releases? Do you know something we all don't?

Go and look at their descriptions.

Witch Hunter Inquisitor w/Power Sword
Witch Hunter Inquisitor w/Inferno Pistol
Witch Hunter Inquisitor w/Plasma Pistol

aka



Inquisitor with Grimoire, also known as:



You really think GW, who has recently said they think the Inquisition has no place on the battlefield, is suddenly going to get new models?

Looking at the list for the 9th November, it looks like we are waiting announcements for the Red Gobbo and the Black Library books and novellas.
Does BL have a particular day for announcements?

PlaguePony wrote:
Looking at the list for the 9th November, it looks like we are waiting announcements for the Red Gobbo and the Black Library books and novellas.
Does BL have a particular day for announcements?

In recent weeks Black Library pre orders have been announced the same day they go up for preorder they aren’t part of the Sunday night announcements

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
Sisters - getting entire new line and have had over 12 months of previews on a weekly basis.

After being neglected for a long time; it's not like they don't deservice that big update.

Inquisition - literally getting a focus in next WD, lots of new models coming according to this leak.

As has been said, Inquisition aren't likely to get any new models, it's probably just a Made To Order run. I wouldn't be suprised if the WD focus is just some fluff and a painting article: look to all the fuss around Primaris Dark Angels in the WD that turned out to be nothing - people read way too much into those sneaks previews.
Best case they get a reprint of their rules with some small updates so GW can scrap the Index Imperium 2 book. They're also one of the few factions to get absolutely nothing from Psychic Awakening.

Grey Knights - have been one of the strongest competitive factions since their release until this edition. Had one of the first codexes released. Rumoured to be getting a massive update in PA that will take them to SM levels of competitiveness.

Grey Knights were only powerful in their 5th edition codex, but existed long before that under the Daemonhunters name. They didn't get a codex update in 4th and 6th, and the 7th and 8th codex were very mediocre. Being one of the first codexes after a edition is both a blessing and a curse, as generally the codexes halfway through the editions are much more fleshed out.

As for the rumoured update: seeing is believing. I'm very skeptical that it'll do much for their competetiveness.

How many models have Nids had since 8th dropped again? 0?

The focus for nids has been on GSC this edition, but they already have a large range which is mostly plastic. Grey Knights have only got 1 character model since their update in 5th and have a much smaller range, especially since their codex got stripped of all Inquisition and Assassin options in 7th. Inquisition hasn't gotten much either in that regard.

So really, on both the Imperium and Xenos sides, there are factions that have their moment in the sun and those that have been neglected for a long time - which goes for rules and models both. And, yes it defintely sucks for the people that have invested a lot in a certain army only to see it being neglected for a long period. But SoB, GK and Inq are probably some of the worst factions to complain about for getting updates over another faction.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

You really think GW, who has recently said they think the Inquisition has no place on the battlefield, is suddenly going to get new models?

Given that the list says nothing about repackaging or re-re-release where other items do? That is exactly what the (so far) entirely correct list implies, so yes.

Let's not let this topic get dragged off topic again


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 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

You really think GW, who has recently said they think the Inquisition has no place on the battlefield, is suddenly going to get new models?

Given that the list says nothing about repackaging or re-re-release where other items do? That is exactly what the (so far) entirely correct list implies, so yes.

even if we get a few plastic inqusitors so what? I mean... If I'm running an Imperial Guard army a Marine release doesn't mean too much for me

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

Inquisition are literally getting infinitely more models than Nids this release. How many models have Nids had since 8th dropped again? 0?

For the record the last new plastic Tyranid release was almost exactly 5 years ago as part of the Shield of Baal campaign, which gave us the Tyrannocyte and Zoanthrope boxes.

Personally I'm more interested to see if PA3 / CA19 give anything fun for Tyranids. The longer we wait the more hopeful I am that the next model release will be something significant like a plastic gargantuan creature.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

You really think GW, who has recently said they think the Inquisition has no place on the battlefield, is suddenly going to get new models?

Given that the list says nothing about repackaging or re-re-release where other items do? That is exactly what the (so far) entirely correct list implies, so yes.

It also has items that are fairly obvious repackages like already existing items like slaves to darkness start collecting and warcry teams that aren't marked as repackages...

Repacked inquisitors is almost certain to be the case

Plastic Pyrovores.

You know you want them.

 Redemption wrote:
After being neglected for a long time; it's not like they don't deservice that big update.

And Tyranids deserve nothing? Necrons deserve 1 model? Eldar deserve to have their entire range in finecrap?

As has been said, Inquisition aren't likely to get any new models, it's probably just a Made To Order run. I wouldn't be suprised if the WD focus is just some fluff and a painting article: look to all the fuss around Primaris Dark Angels in the WD that turned out to be nothing - people read way too much into those sneaks previews.
Best case they get a reprint of their rules with some small updates so GW can scrap the Index Imperium 2 book. They're also one of the few factions to get absolutely nothing from Psychic Awakening.

See above re new models. There is a chance Inquisition get new models. There is no chance Tyranids do. Inquisition do not need anything from PA if they are the focus of a WD. There are arguably more rules and information in a WD focus than a PA book if Phoenix Rising is anything to go by.

Grey Knights were only powerful in their 5th edition codex, but existed long before that under the Daemonhunters name. They didn't get a codex update in 4th and 6th, and the 7th and 8th codex were very mediocre. Being one of the first codexes after a edition is both a blessing and a curse, as generally the codexes halfway through the editions are much more fleshed out.

As for the rumoured update: seeing is believing. I'm very skeptical that it'll do much for their competetiveness.

Grey Knights were a lot more than "mediocre" in 7th. Plenty of factions have gone editions with no codex update. Plenty of factions have had a functionally useless codex for multiple editions too. It's literally only this edition where latter codexes have felt any more fleshed out than prior - power creep was the issue of earlier editions and again, plenty of "late" xenos codexes were utter garbage competitively speaking.
At least GK are getting a codex update, which is more than everyone bar SM at the moment. People were skeptical of the SM update making them competitive and well, 'nuff said.

The focus for nids has been on GSC this edition, but they already have a large range which is mostly plastic. Grey Knights have only got 1 character model since their update in 5th and have a much smaller range, especially since their codex got stripped of all Inquisition and Assassin options in 7th. Inquisition hasn't gotten much either in that regard.

You can't honestly be claiming that the Tyranid update was GSC but the mahooosive Marine update was nothing to do with Grey Knights? Surely you see the ironic, double standards here? Tyranids have had nothing. GSC are as much Tyranids as Marines are GK.

So really, on both the Imperium and Xenos sides, there are factions that have their moment in the sun and those that have been neglected for a long time - which goes for rules and models both. And, yes it defintely sucks for the people that have invested a lot in a certain army only to see it being neglected for a long period. But SoB, GK and Inq are probably some of the worst factions to complain about for getting updates over another faction.

Not really. SoB have no room to complain as they are getting an entire range update that other factions would kill for.
As I have already stated, it looks with the information that we currently have available, that Inq are getting new models.
GK are definitely getting a major update in PA.

They're not going to be new Inquisitor models. It lists old units, like the two Daemonhosts that GW put out. If they were new why would they release two new ones?

Occam's Razor dude.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Plastic Pyrovores.

Make it a combined kit that builds Biovores and it'll be fantastic. Then a plastic Lictor and then... yeah. I think we have everything at that point (other than some legacy Special Characters).

I mean, sure, I'd love Gaunts that don't have frickin' two-piece frickin' heads ( ), but they're not strictly necessary.

So far imperial have got only mephiston "confirmed" as PA release. One kit. Xenos have got 4, chaos 1. Even in the off chance inquisitors aren't repackages(odds of that are somewhere between 1/1000% and 1/100%) that's not exactly putting imperium above xenos.

tneva82 wrote:
So far imperial have got only mephiston "confirmed" as PA release. One kit. Xenos have got 4, chaos 1. Even in the off chance inquisitors aren't repackages(odds of that are somewhere between 1/1000% and 1/100%) that's not exactly putting imperium above xenos.

So you're just going to completely ignore the huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge Marine update that has literally only just happened? And the huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge Chaos update that happened before it? Convenient. My post wasn't only concerning PA releases.

Also your maths seems off - 1 model (Mephiston) + 3 Inquisitors + 2 Daemonhosts = 6 models which is > 4 Xenos releases. E - not to mention the metric feth ton of Sisters models on the way. Or are they not Imperium either?