Possible GW Dec releases list (40k, Necro, Aos, BB, AI, LotR, Warcry, KT, BSF)

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**BrianDavion**

tneva82 wrote:
So far imperial have got only mephiston "confirmed" as PA release. One kit. Xenos have got 4, chaos 1. Even in the off chance inquisitors aren't repackages(odds of that are somewhere between 1/1000% and 1/100%) that's not exactly putting imperium above xenos.

yeah but Marines got a codex, that means no one who wears an Aquilla on them deserves anything new until Xenos get eleventy \releases!

**An Actual Englishman**

BrianDavion wrote:
tneva82 wrote:
So far imperial have got only mephiston "confirmed" as PA release. One kit. Xenos have got 4, chaos 1. Even in the off chance inquisitors aren't repackages(odds of that are somewhere between 1/1000% and 1/100%) that's not exactly putting imperium above xenos.

yeah but Marines got a codex, that means no one who wears an Aquilla on them deserves anything new until Xenos get eleventy \releases!

Ugh the obvious strawmanning again.

Do I need to repeat that Marines have had 30+ new unit releases this edition so far (not including the Space Marines Heroes line) which is more than xenos combined releases and more than any other faction? Do I need to state the obvious that Marines of all flavours excluding Deathwatch and GK have recently had a ton of kits released that they can use while other factions languish with nothing? To be blunt, SM deserve nothing this PA release. Literally nothing. They've had quite a bit more than a codex.

**xttz**

An Actual Englishman wrote:

Do I need to repeat that Marines have had 30+ new unit releases this edition so far

In this thread, no, you don't need to keeep repeating that. So please stop.

**tneva82**

SOB are not PA releases. I'm looking at the PA releases. Or if we are looking at non PA releases let's add to count genesteleaer cults, ork buggies etc etc etc etc.

**Darsath**

tneva82 wrote:
SOB are not PA releases. I'm looking at the PA releases. Or if we are looking at non PA releases let's add to count genesteleaer cults, ork buggies etc etc etc etc.

If you include non-PA releases, it makes your argument a lot weaker.

**AlmightyWalrus**

You're flat out deluded if you think GK were competitively powerful after 6th hit. Considering you're now also whining about how the *actual* most neglected army in the game, Sisters of Battle, is getting an update I think it would be a fair conclusion that you aren't satisfied unless the things you personally like get updates. You had a plausible cover when you were just going after Marines, but you've tipped your hand going after SoB.

**Bdrone**

...*blinks* welp, THIS a thing to walk in on. sidestepping.

So, the leaks have been more or less on point so far, indicating the price for that SoB box is about expected if true, considering the recent price raises... and if you have and like the metal SoB already... the best part in my eyes is a penitent engine who's easier to work with is a part of the box but debatably worth it for the rest in there if at all.

still no indication of models with much for weapon options in that box to come quickly. its about only useful for the codex until the boxes for the kits come back around, because it's lacking weapon options and... lots of close special weapons is a sisters thing. i wonder how long that's gonna take for the stuff to get that released. looks outside this window.

**CthuluIsSpy**

Yeah, SoB actually deserves their release. They've basically been without models for more than a decade.

The next priority should have been finecast, because some for some armies, those their elite and HQ choices, which they can't really get because they're only found on GW's webstore now. You just can't go down to the store and pick up what you need, and that's a problem. Especially when finecast is a terrible material that should have never been introduced to begin with. I prefer metal to finecast. And metal is a bastard to paint and assemble.

Orktober should have seen the release of Ork Elite and HQ models. I would have much preferred fewer buggies and redone finecast models than have 6 buggies that aren't even that good.

**tneva82**

CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Yeah, SoB actually deserves their release. They've basically been without models for more than a decade.

The next priority should have been finecast, because some for some armies, those their elite and HQ choices, which they can't really get because they're only found on GW's webstore now. You just can't go down to the store and pick up what you need, and that's a problem.

Orktober should have seen the release of Ork Elite and HQ models. I would have much preferred fewer buggies and redone finecast models than have 6 buggies that aren't even that good.

Well you can't get all the plastic models from store either. And stores, including FLGS, can get the webstore items as well. Albeit at delay but that's same regardless of material. Resin or plastic.

**nintura**

Redemption wrote:
An Actual Englishman wrote:
Sisters - getting entire new line and have had over 12 months of previews on a weekly basis.

After being neglected for a long time; it's not like they don't deservice that big update.

Inquisition - literally getting a focus in next WD, lots of new models coming according to this leak.

As has been said, Inquisition aren't likely to get any new models, it's probably just a Made To Order run. I wouldn't be suprised if the WD focus is just some fluff and a painting article: look to all the fuss around Primaris Dark Angels in the WD that turned out to be nothing - people read way too much into those sneaks previews.
Best case they get a reprint of their rules with some small updates so GW can scrap the Index Imperium 2 book. They're also one of the few factions to get absolutely nothing from Psychic Awakening.

Grey Knights - have been one of the strongest competitive factions since their release until this edition. Had one of the first codexes released. Rumoured to be getting a massive update in PA that will take them to SM levels of competitiveness.

Grey Knights were only powerful in their 5th edition codex, but existed long before that under the Daemonhunters name. They didn't get a codex update in 4th and 6th, and the 7th and 8th codex were very mediocre. Being one of the first codexes after a edition is both a blessing and a curse, as generally the codexes halfway through the editions are much more fleshed out.

As for the rumoured update: seeing is believing. I'm very skeptical that it'll do much for their competetiveness.

How many models have Nids had since 8th dropped again? 0?

The focus for nids has been on GSC this edition, but they already have a large range which is mostly plastic. Grey Knights have only got 1 character model since their update in 5th and have a much smaller range, especially since their codex got stripped of all Inquisition and Assassin options in 7th. Inquisition hasn't gotten much either in that regard.

So really, on both the Imperium and Xenos sides, there are factions that have their moment in the sun and those that have been neglected for a long time - which goes for rules and models both. And, yes it defintely sucks for the people that have invested a lot in a certain army only to see it being neglected for a long period. But SoB, GK and Inq are probably some of the worst factions to complain about for getting updates over another faction.

Large range? Marines have more dedicated transports than we have in any slot. They have more elites than we have in our elites, fast attack, and heavy support COMBINED.

**Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl**

An Actual Englishman wrote:
Sisters - getting entire new line and have had over 12 months of previews on a weekly basis.

I remember you telling us that Orks were so much more popular than Sisters that of course they would get new release before Sisters.
And then I look at the new models coming for Sisters.
And then I look at you still complaining about Orktober.
And then I read this message.

(It's a biweekly basis, only once every two weeks. Didn't you love your Orktober previews

?)

An Actual Englishman wrote:
SoB have no room to complain as they are getting an entire range update that other factions would kill for.

But they aren't. You are. You are complaining that after waiting for decades they finally get plastic troops. And I love it!

Need a popcorn emoji.

**nintura**

Crimson wrote:
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

I remember you telling us that Orks were so much more popular than Sisters that of course they would get new release before Sisters.
And then I look at the new models coming for Sisters.
And then I look at you still complaining about Orktober.
And then I read this message.

Yep. I remember that too, I remember it well. It is the time for AE to accept that Orks are just not very popular and GW is not gonna waste a lot of time with them...

They have derailed several threads with this incessant inane ranting.

Ok, so let's all just play marines. Balanced game there!

**Crimson**

nintura wrote:

Ok, so let's all just play marines. Balanced game there!

Last I checked other armies still exist, and there is a brand new SoB army on the way. Yes, we know marines get far more releases than other armies. We all know that, everyone knows that. Endlessly ranting about it in several threads is bloody pointless and annoying.

**AlmightyWalrus**

nintura wrote:
Crimson wrote:
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

I remember you telling us that Orks were so much more popular than Sisters that of course they would get new release before Sisters.
And then I look at the new models coming for Sisters.
And then I look at you still complaining about Orktober.
And then I read this message.

Yep. I remember that too, I remember it well. It is the time for AE to accept that Orks are just not very popular and GW is not gonna waste a lot of time with them...

They have derailed several threads with this incessant inane ranting.

Ok, so let's all just play marines. Balanced game there!

That answer only makes sense if you haven't understood what the argument being made by Hybrid was. The point was that the argument was made in the past that since Orks were more popular than Sisters of Battle the Orks deserved to be updated first. Hybrid simply continued that argument to its logical conclusion to show how absurd it was, and you responded by... using the argument that Hybrid was ridiculing in the first place.

**nintura**

AlmightyWalrus wrote:
nintura wrote:
Crimson wrote:
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

I remember you telling us that Orks were so much more popular than Sisters that of course they would get new release before Sisters.
And then I look at the new models coming for Sisters.
And then I look at you still complaining about Orktober.
And then I read this message.

Yep. I remember that too, I remember it well. It is the time for AE to accept that Orks are just not very popular and GW is not gonna waste a lot of time with them...

They have derailed several threads with this incessant inane ranting.

Ok, so let's all just play marines. Balanced game there!

That answer only makes sense if you haven't understood what the argument being made by Hybrid was. The point was that the argument was made in the past that since Orks were more popular than Sisters of Battle the Orks deserved to be updated first. Hybrid simply continued that argument to its logical conclusion to show how absurd it was, and you responded by... using the argument that Hybrid was ridiculing in the first place.

I dont know the argument that either player was making. I was only stating that everything is showing Marines at the moment and GW doesn't really seem to care. My statement was to be taken out of the context of their argument, so I apologize for keeping it short.

**phillv85**

Anyway, back on topic.

Have they ever released a WD Apocrypha before? I like the sound of it, but i’m not sure exactly what the content will be. I just like looking at old models really.

**BrookM**

Yes, back on topic please.

**beast_gts**

phillv85 wrote:
Have they ever released a WD Apocrypha before?

I don't remember one, and Warhammer Digital doesn't have one listed - just Index Imperialis: Apocrypha, Index Chaotica: Apocrypha & Index Astartes: Apocrypha.

**JSG**

nintura wrote:
Crimson wrote:
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

I remember you telling us that Orks were so much more popular than Sisters that of course they would get new release before Sisters.
And then I look at the new models coming for Sisters.
And then I look at you still complaining about Orktober.
And then I read this message.

Yep. I remember that too, I remember it well. It is the time for AE to accept that Orks are just not very popular and GW is not gonna waste a lot of time with them...

They have derailed several threads with this incessant inane ranting.

Ok, so let's all just play marines. Balanced game there!

But that would be the most balanced version of the game.

**phillv85**

beast_gts wrote:
phillv85 wrote:
Have they ever released a WD Apocrypha before?

I don't remember one, and Warhammer Digital doesn't have one listed - just Index Imperialis: Apocrypha, Index Chaotica: Apocrypha & Index Astartes: Apocrypha.

Ah cool, thanks.

I think i’ll take the plunge on it if the price isn’t insane.

**tneva82**

Collection of articles from wd have come before ut generally game specific ones. I have space marine(the 6mm game one) myself. Depending on price get it just for original tale of 4 gamers

**An Actual Englishman**

AlmightyWalrus wrote:
You're flat out deluded if you think GK were competitively powerful after 6th hit. Considering you're now also whining about how the *actual* most neglected army in the game, Sisters of Battle, is getting an update I think it would be a fair conclusion that you aren't satisfied unless the things you personally like get updates. You had a plausible cover when you were just going after Marines, but you've tipped your hand going after SoB.

And you’re flat out deluded if you think I’m ‘whining’ about the Sisters release. Read my posts again or don’t bother commenting. Your attempted ad hominem is hilarious.

**phillv85**

tneva82 wrote:
Collection of articles from wd have come before ut generally game specific ones. I have space marine(the 6mm game one) myself. Depending on price get it just for original tale of 4 gamers

You mean they released an Apocrypha for Space Marine (6mm game) article from WD? That sounds awesome.

**phillv85**

Any chance of taking this argument elsewhere? it’s not much fun for most of us reading it.

**An Actual Englishman**

phillv85 wrote:
Any chance of taking this argument elsewhere? it’s not much fun for most of us reading it.

I’d quite happily ignore the off topic, ad hominem, personal attacks if the mods removed them....

**JWBS**

An Actual Englishman wrote:

I was responding to a player literally complaining that Sisters were the most unloved faction of 40k. When they are getting a full range update. Again, nice attempted ad hominem though, you absolute melt.

I'm not looking to be part of this argument, on the contrary, like many have already expressed for themselves, I find this stuff tedious and irritating. I want to point out though, a full new range after 20 years in the wilderness does not mean they aren't bottom of the barrel (I'm not saying they are, but this alone doesn't prove they aren't). And the derogatory names make you look worse, not him.

**Carlovonsexron**

How any versions of this list are floating around now, 2 or 3? And they cover everything from November till the end of December? Things arent looking good for the Spire Tyrand and the cyclops to get released this year, but then thats rather good news for my wallet...

**ClockworkZion**

JWBS wrote:
An Actual Englishman wrote:

I was responding to a player literally complaining that Sisters were the most unloved faction of 40k. When they are getting a full range update. Again, nice attempted ad hominem though, you absolute melt.

I'm not looking to be part of this argument, on the contrary, like many have already expressed for themselves, I find this stuff tedious and irritating. I want to point out though, a full new range after 20 years in the wilderness does not mean they aren't bottom of the barrel (I'm not saying they are, but this alone doesn't prove they aren't). And the derogatory names make you look worse, not him.

This all the way. Sistets have an army that is comprised of models old enough to drink in the US. Saying that any army that is mostly in plastic is more unloved makes less sense than a Wookie on Endor.

**Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl**

An Actual Englishman wrote:
Both you and Oxayotl will note that GW have already updated Orks and they did so before SoB.[...]You forgot our 6 new buggies already?

I am glad that you are happy and satisfied with this, and not at all jealous of and complaining about Sisters getting more, better releases than Orks do

.

Looking forward to what PA2 will have for Sisters, hopefully we get our Bulleting soon it's due for today

. Given the whole Fleur de Lys everywhere and Faith in the title we should get some cool stuff in PA2!

**Redemption**

Next short story is up:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/10/28/psychic-awakening-a-test-of-faithgw-homepage-post-3/