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Carlovonsexron wrote:
How any versions of this list are floating around now, 2 or 3? And they cover everything from November till the end of December? Things arent looking good for the Spire Tyrand and the cyclops to get released this year, but then thats rather good news for my wallet...

2 from what ive seen, the green mixed one and the other one with the dates and pricing

Back on Dakka for a bit after a long hiatus (hooray real life!).

I'm genuinely excited to see a Mephiston re-sculpt coming before the year's end. The big question is if he will be Primarisized or not. I suspect he will be (in fact, there's almost zero doubt he won't have crossed the rubicon primaris).

Second question will be his wargear and stats. I suspect he'll have the standard librarian fare, such as a psyhic hood, some stripe of power or possibly Gravis armor (Hoping he retains his 2+ armor save), and his force sword, Vitarus. He's always had a plasma pistol, so I'll be curious to see if that's retained or upgraded as well.

I'm excited to see at least one of the old sculpts finally re-done and updated all these years later. Hopefully that trend of updating/improving old character models/sculpts continues!

I personally dearly look forward to Dante getting a new model. He's such an iconic sculpt and one I can't wait to see in the future, whenever we finally get him.

Thanks, and take it easy for now.

-Red__Thirst-

I agree Primarisised is most likely. But what would be a whole lot more grimdark and interesting would be if he'd finally succumbed.

 Tyranid Horde wrote:
Good lord! Slaves to Darkness getting some love at long last!

I did spot a larger release list, will see if I can find it.

Edit: ninja'd

I feel the same, but I am disappointed this is coming after the end of my Path to Glory with StD, really could've used the boost

 Red__Thirst wrote:
Back on Dakka for a bit after a long hiatus (hooray real life!).

I'm genuinely excited to see a Mephiston re-sculpt coming before the year's end. The big question is if he will be Primarisized or not. I suspect he will be (in fact, there's almost zero doubt he won't have crossed the rubicon primaris).

Second question will be his wargear and stats. I suspect he'll have the standard librarian fare, such as a psyhic hood, some stripe of power or possibly Gravis armor (Hoping he retains his 2+ armor save), and his force sword, Vitarus. He's always had a plasma pistol, so I'll be curious to see if that's retained or upgraded as well.


-Red__Thirst-

I'm looking forward to see how they do it. Like DA the BA have characters with 2+ saves. So how they treat Mephiston will either worry me or calm me when old Azzy boy gets the treatment himself.

I actually think there is a chance to see Mephiston is some custom Phobos armour.

This weeks prices GBP USD and EURO now confirmed

Rumoured price list (on page 2) differences in red.

Mortisan Boneshaper $30 €22.50 £17.50
Mortisan Soulreaper $30 €22.50 £17.50
Mortisan Soulmason $35 €25 £20
Arch Kavalos Zandtos/Liege-Kavalos $50 €40 £30
Orpheon Katakros $110 €85 £65
Kavalos Deathriders $60 €45 £35
Mortek Guard $60 €45 £35
Necropolis Stalkers/Immortis Guard $50 €40 £30
Gothizzar Harvester $50 €40 £30
Mortek Crawler $80 €65 £50

The Red Gobbo $35 €25 £20 (limited release until 5th January 2020)

Dominion of Sigmar Hallowed Stormthrone $100 €80 £60
Dominion of Sigmar Penumbral Stormvault $125 €100 £75

Red Painting Handle $11.50 €8.50 £6.50
Red Painting Handle 6 Pack $67.50
Painting Handle 5 pack $40 €32.50 £25
Citadel Spray Stick $18 €14.50 £12
Paint Pot Holder $8 €6.50 £5 for 6

White Dwarf Apocrypha $35 €25 £20
Dark Millennium Playing Cards $15 €12 £10

Black Library
Castle of Blood £12 $18 €15.95
The Watcher in The Rain £12 $17.50 €15
Wrack and Ruin £3 $5 €4
Iron Resolve £3 $5 €4
Thieves Paradise £3 $5 €4
Code of the Skies £3 $5 €4
The Colonel's Mongraph £3 $5 €4
Isha's Lament £3 $5 €4
Lords of the Storm £3 $5 €4
The Measure of Iron £3 $5 €4
Necromunda Low Lives £3 $5 €4
Severed £3 $5 €4

£6.50 for the paint pot holder. Sheeesh, is that for one or do you get more than one in the pack?

phillv85 wrote:
£6.50 for the paint pot holder. Sheeesh, is that for one or do you get more than one in the pack?

UK price list says £6.50 each so 1 I'd assume. Euro price list has the price at €6.50 so one list is wrong probably the Euro list so I've listed it at €8.50 above.

Cheers, I was interested in one until that price. I assumed it’d be a few quid. I’m not getting one out of principal at that price.

 Azreal13 wrote:
I agree Primarisised is most likely. But what would be a whole lot more grimdark and interesting would be if he'd finally succumbed.

See that's the thing, he did succumb to the rage, then he overcame it. The question is what did he lose, or gain, from overcoming the rage. Did something replace the rage? If so, what?

It's one of the big mysteries of the Blood Angels. Nobody really knows, and Mephiston sure isn't talking about it. Last time I checked, nobody had asked him either (though, to be fair, would you?)

I'm hoping to see some cool fluff and post-Devastation of Baal lore added. I've been rather anticipating the post tyranid invasion fluff and lore of the Baal system and the re-building of the chapter after the battle was over.

Take it easy.

-Red__Thirst-

 Red__Thirst wrote:
Back on Dakka for a bit after a long hiatus (hooray real life!).

I'm genuinely excited to see a Mephiston re-sculpt coming before the year's end. The big question is if he will be Primarisized or not. I suspect he will be (in fact, there's almost zero doubt he won't have crossed the rubicon primaris).

Second question will be his wargear and stats. I suspect he'll have the standard librarian fare, such as a psyhic hood, some stripe of power or possibly Gravis armor (Hoping he retains his 2+ armor save), and his force sword, Vitarus. He's always had a plasma pistol, so I'll be curious to see if that's retained or upgraded as well.

I'm excited to see at least one of the old sculpts finally re-done and updated all these years later. Hopefully that trend of updating/improving old character models/sculpts continues!

I personally dearly look forward to Dante getting a new model. He's such an iconic sculpt and one I can't wait to see in the future, whenever we finally get him.

Thanks, and take it easy for now.

-Red__Thirst-

100% certainty he will be Primaris. Characters get buffed or they get nothing in terms of models. Wont make any sense in the fluff but it wont matter, buy it anyway. He probably joins the Ultramarines.

 DaveC wrote:

Citadel Spray Stick $18 €14.50 £12

Now, I love a gadget or trinket as much as the next person but give up my old reliable 'Curved Bed Slat Spray Platform'?

Never!

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

JWBS wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:


I was responding to a player literally complaining that Sisters were the most unloved faction of 40k. When they are getting a full range update. Again, nice attempted ad hominem though, you absolute melt.

I'm not looking to be part of this argument, on the contrary, like many have already expressed for themselves, I find this stuff tedious and irritating. I want to point out though, a full new range after 20 years in the wilderness does not mean they aren't bottom of the barrel (I'm not saying they are, but this alone doesn't prove they aren't). And the derogatory names make you look worse, not him.

If you didn't want to be part of the discussion you probably should have elected to not join in, rather than provide your opinion.

I expected you to say exactly this in response, thanks for not letting me down. And I agree entirely, I elect to not engage with the rest of your glib hyperbole. You can easily find the definition of derogatory on your own.

 Kirasu wrote:

 Red__Thirst wrote:
Back on Dakka for a bit after a long hiatus (hooray real life!).

I'm genuinely excited to see a Mephiston re-sculpt coming before the year's end. The big question is if he will be Primarisized or not. I suspect he will be (in fact, there's almost zero doubt he won't have crossed the rubicon primaris).

Second question will be his wargear and stats. I suspect he'll have the standard librarian fare, such as a psyhic hood, some stripe of power or possibly Gravis armor (Hoping he retains his 2+ armor save), and his force sword, Vitarus. He's always had a plasma pistol, so I'll be curious to see if that's retained or upgraded as well.

I'm excited to see at least one of the old sculpts finally re-done and updated all these years later. Hopefully that trend of updating/improving old character models/sculpts continues!

I personally dearly look forward to Dante getting a new model. He's such an iconic sculpt and one I can't wait to see in the future, whenever we finally get him.

Thanks, and take it easy for now.

-Red__Thirst-

100% certainty he will be Primaris. Characters get buffed or they get nothing in terms of models. Wont make any sense in the fluff but it wont matter, buy it anyway. He probably joins the Ultramarines.

Correct me if I'm wrong but if he does get primarized, he'll be the first character that's happened to from a chapter who have major flaws in their geneseed. I'm aware that they've already stated that the newly created primaris don't suffer from the flaws (again, unless I've missed something) but I'd be curious to know if crossing the rubicon will cure the flaws the existing marines have had to endure or if it'll have side effects (like kicking them into overdrive).

alphaecho wrote:

 DaveC wrote:

Citadel Spray Stick $18 €14.50 £12

Now, I love a gadget or trinket as much as the next person but give up my old reliable 'Curved Bed Slat Spray Platform'?

Never!

What if I told you it could double as a Citadel Paint Pot Launcher?

Dexter01 wrote:

 Kirasu wrote:

 Red__Thirst wrote:
Back on Dakka for a bit after a long hiatus (hooray real life!).

I'm genuinely excited to see a Mephiston re-sculpt coming before the year's end. The big question is if he will be Primarisized or not. I suspect he will be (in fact, there's almost zero doubt he won't have crossed the rubicon primaris).

Second question will be his wargear and stats. I suspect he'll have the standard librarian fare, such as a psyhic hood, some stripe of power or possibly Gravis armor (Hoping he retains his 2+ armor save), and his force sword, Vitarus. He's always had a plasma pistol, so I'll be curious to see if that's retained or upgraded as well.

I'm excited to see at least one of the old sculpts finally re-done and updated all these years later. Hopefully that trend of updating/improving old character models/sculpts continues!

I personally dearly look forward to Dante getting a new model. He's such an iconic sculpt and one I can't wait to see in the future, whenever we finally get him.

Thanks, and take it easy for now.

-Red__Thirst-

100% certainty he will be Primaris. Characters get buffed or they get nothing in terms of models. Wont make any sense in the fluff but it wont matter, buy it anyway. He probably joins the Ultramarines.

Correct me if I'm wrong but if he does get primarized, he'll be the first character that's happened to from a chapter who have major flaws in their geneseed. I'm aware that they've already stated that the newly created primaris don't suffer from the flaws (again, unless I've missed something) but I'd be curious to know if crossing the rubicon will cure the flaws the existing marines have had to endure or if it'll have side effects (like kicking them into overdrive).

The fluff will be changed to fit the sales narrative :p Gotta make it easier to buy models that are prepackaged and not open to any conversions then paint them in the set manner. Whatever happens, I'm sure they'll praise Roboute.

Speaking of geneseed flaws, the Imperial Fists supplement says they're missing two organs still, and unless I missed something, it seems the Primaris process hasn't fixed that.

So with NOV 2nd and 9th pretty much confirmed as being correct - not 100% with some of the pricing which was obvious from the start - and just the Red Gobbo date to be announced this next week or so, are we to assume that the majority of the list to be correct?.
Everyone laughed and guffawed when the paint spray stick came up on the list and less so with the red handle which i doubt many people knew about.
If correct it gives a lot of interesting questions on GWs crimbo strategy this year and releases and gives more credence to Mephiston and the PA book being right.

Theres a few interesting bits and bobs i want to see if they appear - Space Vampire, graffiti sheets, chaos sorcerer and PS3

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Speaking of geneseed flaws, the Imperial Fists supplement says they're missing two organs still, and unless I missed something, it seems the Primaris process hasn't fixed that.

Which is a bit weird, but good that it was answered. Earlier I was pondering about the primarisation and various missing or malfunctioning organs the certain chapters have.

The playing cards are actually $15? Did I miss the part where it was printed with the sacred tears of a living saint?

phillv85 wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Collection of articles from wd have come before ut generally game specific ones. I have space marine(the 6mm game one) myself. Depending on price get it just for original tale of 4 gamers

You mean they released an Apocrypha for Space Marine (6mm game) article from WD? That sounds awesome.

Not sure what you mean but they collected tons of articles(lots rules and battle reports at least) from wd for the game to one book. Handy to get all the rules in one place and battle reports are fun. Sounds bit similar to this though rules are less relevant. Maybe more of hobby related articles best of style? So battle reports, painting tutorials mostly. Maybe some jervis's columns? During 6th ed fb there was reqular column from one club. That was fun and would love article or two. I enjoyed those as it gave sight of reqular gaming club life and not just cut throat tournament games.

US price list is out so I've updated my post

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/240/781764.page#10612148

Most of the Reds are now gone

of note
GW has changed $30 €25 £20 to $35 €25 £20
The Red handle at $67.50 is for a pack of 6
The Paint pot holder price was wrong on the UK list not the Euro list and should be £5 and the US lists it as a pack of 6.

Much like the rumour lists there appear to be errors in the 3 different price lists for this week.

 DaveC wrote:
T
Red Painting Handle $10.50 €8.50 £6.50
Red Painting Handle 6 Pack $67.50

Gw having math issues? 6 pack costs more than 6 individual? Lol. Why buy 6 pack then?-

tneva82 wrote:

 DaveC wrote:
T
Red Painting Handle $10.50 €8.50 £6.50
Red Painting Handle 6 Pack $67.50

Gw having math issues? 6 pack costs more than 6 individual? Lol. Why buy 6 pack then?-

EDIT
the red handles 6 pack are listed at $67.50 on the US price list
there's no individual listing for the Red Handles on the US price list the $10.50 price is based on current GBP prices at £6.50 which is the UK price - it might be $11.50 in USD or they might not get an individual release in the US.

OMG... The Citadel spray stick is even worse than I could have imagined. It's so horribly limited on what it can be used for. Want to spray your models from underneath? That's a fat NOPE!

 Kanluwen wrote:

alphaecho wrote:

 DaveC wrote:

Citadel Spray Stick $18 €14.50 £12

Now, I love a gadget or trinket as much as the next person but give up my old reliable 'Curved Bed Slat Spray Platform'?

Never!

What if I told you it could double as a Citadel Paint Pot Launcher?

If I mount my bed slat on a suitable fulcrum, it can do that as well....further.

Plus, it's been sprayed that much it has doubled in thickness and works as a club as well.

Dexter01 wrote:

 Kirasu wrote:

 Red__Thirst wrote:
Back on Dakka for a bit after a long hiatus (hooray real life!).

I'm genuinely excited to see a Mephiston re-sculpt coming before the year's end. The big question is if he will be Primarisized or not. I suspect he will be (in fact, there's almost zero doubt he won't have crossed the rubicon primaris).

Second question will be his wargear and stats. I suspect he'll have the standard librarian fare, such as a psyhic hood, some stripe of power or possibly Gravis armor (Hoping he retains his 2+ armor save), and his force sword, Vitarus. He's always had a plasma pistol, so I'll be curious to see if that's retained or upgraded as well.

I'm excited to see at least one of the old sculpts finally re-done and updated all these years later. Hopefully that trend of updating/improving old character models/sculpts continues!

I personally dearly look forward to Dante getting a new model. He's such an iconic sculpt and one I can't wait to see in the future, whenever we finally get him.

Thanks, and take it easy for now.

-Red__Thirst-

100% certainty he will be Primaris. Characters get buffed or they get nothing in terms of models. Wont make any sense in the fluff but it wont matter, buy it anyway. He probably joins the Ultramarines.

Correct me if I'm wrong but if he does get primarized, he'll be the first character that's happened to from a chapter who have major flaws in their geneseed. I'm aware that they've already stated that the newly created primaris don't suffer from the flaws (again, unless I've missed something) but I'd be curious to know if crossing the rubicon will cure the flaws the existing marines have had to endure or if it'll have side effects (like kicking them into overdrive).

There was some hope that it would cure the flaws of various chapters but it doesn't. BA still suffer from the red thirst and SW still deal with the curse of the wulfen. This is in their respective codices. Primaris are just marines, not some separate thing.

JSG wrote:

Dexter01 wrote:

 Kirasu wrote:

 Red__Thirst wrote:
Back on Dakka for a bit after a long hiatus (hooray real life!).

I'm genuinely excited to see a Mephiston re-sculpt coming before the year's end. The big question is if he will be Primarisized or not. I suspect he will be (in fact, there's almost zero doubt he won't have crossed the rubicon primaris).

Second question will be his wargear and stats. I suspect he'll have the standard librarian fare, such as a psyhic hood, some stripe of power or possibly Gravis armor (Hoping he retains his 2+ armor save), and his force sword, Vitarus. He's always had a plasma pistol, so I'll be curious to see if that's retained or upgraded as well.

I'm excited to see at least one of the old sculpts finally re-done and updated all these years later. Hopefully that trend of updating/improving old character models/sculpts continues!

I personally dearly look forward to Dante getting a new model. He's such an iconic sculpt and one I can't wait to see in the future, whenever we finally get him.

Thanks, and take it easy for now.

-Red__Thirst-

100% certainty he will be Primaris. Characters get buffed or they get nothing in terms of models. Wont make any sense in the fluff but it wont matter, buy it anyway. He probably joins the Ultramarines.

Correct me if I'm wrong but if he does get primarized, he'll be the first character that's happened to from a chapter who have major flaws in their geneseed. I'm aware that they've already stated that the newly created primaris don't suffer from the flaws (again, unless I've missed something) but I'd be curious to know if crossing the rubicon will cure the flaws the existing marines have had to endure or if it'll have side effects (like kicking them into overdrive).

There was some hope that it would cure the flaws of various chapters but it doesn't. BA still suffer from the red thirst and SW still deal with the curse of the wulfen. This is in their respective codices. Primaris are just marines, not some separate thing.

However! The primaris marines do not seem to suffer from the Black Rage. At least, there are no documented cases of any primaris marines falling to the Black Rage as yet.

My theory on this is that standard marines up until primaris marines arrived all were created by imbibing the blood of the Sanguinary High Priests, who carry the blood of their primarch in their veins, all-be-it diluted. That blood is, in my opinion, the source of the Black Rage. That tiny little part of Sanguinus's soul still carried by all his gene-sons that are created by drinking the blood of the Sanguinary Priests eventually manifests as the Black Rage. None of the primaris marines have been created by drinking that blood, but purely from the gene seed which Cawl used to make all of the primaris Blood Angels on Mars. It makes sense that they wouldn't have the soul fragment of Sanguinius transmitted through his blood into each new aspirant, thus all but eliminating the chance to have the Black Rage manifest. Guess we'll see.

Just my opinion on that, take it easy.

-Red__Thirst-

There's like zero chance that GW won't want to get around to selling some Black Rage Primaris models at some point.

 Red__Thirst wrote:

JSG wrote:

Dexter01 wrote:

 Kirasu wrote:

 Red__Thirst wrote:
Back on Dakka for a bit after a long hiatus (hooray real life!).

I'm genuinely excited to see a Mephiston re-sculpt coming before the year's end. The big question is if he will be Primarisized or not. I suspect he will be (in fact, there's almost zero doubt he won't have crossed the rubicon primaris).

Second question will be his wargear and stats. I suspect he'll have the standard librarian fare, such as a psyhic hood, some stripe of power or possibly Gravis armor (Hoping he retains his 2+ armor save), and his force sword, Vitarus. He's always had a plasma pistol, so I'll be curious to see if that's retained or upgraded as well.

I'm excited to see at least one of the old sculpts finally re-done and updated all these years later. Hopefully that trend of updating/improving old character models/sculpts continues!

I personally dearly look forward to Dante getting a new model. He's such an iconic sculpt and one I can't wait to see in the future, whenever we finally get him.

Thanks, and take it easy for now.

-Red__Thirst-

100% certainty he will be Primaris. Characters get buffed or they get nothing in terms of models. Wont make any sense in the fluff but it wont matter, buy it anyway. He probably joins the Ultramarines.

Correct me if I'm wrong but if he does get primarized, he'll be the first character that's happened to from a chapter who have major flaws in their geneseed. I'm aware that they've already stated that the newly created primaris don't suffer from the flaws (again, unless I've missed something) but I'd be curious to know if crossing the rubicon will cure the flaws the existing marines have had to endure or if it'll have side effects (like kicking them into overdrive).

There was some hope that it would cure the flaws of various chapters but it doesn't. BA still suffer from the red thirst and SW still deal with the curse of the wulfen. This is in their respective codices. Primaris are just marines, not some separate thing.

However! The primaris marines do not seem to suffer from the Black Rage. At least, there are no documented cases of any primaris marines falling to the Black Rage as yet.

My theory on this is that standard marines up until primaris marines arrived all were created by imbibing the blood of the Sanguinary High Priests, who carry the blood of their primarch in their veins, all-be-it diluted. That blood is, in my opinion, the source of the Black Rage. That tiny little part of Sanguinus's soul still carried by all his gene-sons that are created by drinking the blood of the Sanguinary Priests eventually manifests as the Black Rage. None of the primaris marines have been created by drinking that blood, but purely from the gene seed which Cawl used to make all of the primaris Blood Angels on Mars. It makes sense that they wouldn't have the soul fragment of Sanguinius transmitted through his blood into each new aspirant, thus all but eliminating the chance to have the Black Rage manifest. Guess we'll see.

Just my opinion on that, take it easy.

-Red__Thirst-

assuming that theory is correct, it would make the awoken immune, while the indoctrinated and ascended would not be