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2019/10/28 21:34:30
Subject: Possible GW Dec releases list (40k, Necro, Aos, BB, AI, LotR, Warcry, KT, BSF)
Red__Thirst wrote: Back on Dakka for a bit after a long hiatus (hooray real life!).
I'm genuinely excited to see a Mephiston re-sculpt coming before the year's end. The big question is if he will be Primarisized or not. I suspect he will be (in fact, there's almost zero doubt he won't have crossed the rubicon primaris).
Second question will be his wargear and stats. I suspect he'll have the standard librarian fare, such as a psyhic hood, some stripe of power or possibly Gravis armor (Hoping he retains his 2+ armor save), and his force sword, Vitarus. He's always had a plasma pistol, so I'll be curious to see if that's retained or upgraded as well.
I'm excited to see at least one of the old sculpts finally re-done and updated all these years later. Hopefully that trend of updating/improving old character models/sculpts continues!
I personally dearly look forward to Dante getting a new model. He's such an iconic sculpt and one I can't wait to see in the future, whenever we finally get him.
Thanks, and take it easy for now.
-Red__Thirst-
100% certainty he will be Primaris. Characters get buffed or they get nothing in terms of models. Wont make any sense in the fluff but it wont matter, buy it anyway. He probably joins the Ultramarines.
Correct me if I'm wrong but if he does get primarized, he'll be the first character that's happened to from a chapter who have major flaws in their geneseed. I'm aware that they've already stated that the newly created primaris don't suffer from the flaws (again, unless I've missed something) but I'd be curious to know if crossing the rubicon will cure the flaws the existing marines have had to endure or if it'll have side effects (like kicking them into overdrive).
There was some hope that it would cure the flaws of various chapters but it doesn't. BA still suffer from the red thirst and SW still deal with the curse of the wulfen. This is in their respective codices. Primaris are just marines, not some separate thing.
However! The primaris marines do not seem to suffer from the Black Rage. At least, there are no documented cases of any primaris marines falling to the Black Rage as yet.
My theory on this is that standard marines up until primaris marines arrived all were created by imbibing the blood of the Sanguinary High Priests, who carry the blood of their primarch in their veins, all-be-it diluted. That blood is, in my opinion, the source of the Black Rage. That tiny little part of Sanguinus's soul still carried by all his gene-sons that are created by drinking the blood of the Sanguinary Priests eventually manifests as the Black Rage. None of the primaris marines have been created by drinking that blood, but purely from the gene seed which Cawl used to make all of the primaris Blood Angels on Mars. It makes sense that they wouldn't have the soul fragment of Sanguinius transmitted through his blood into each new aspirant, thus all but eliminating the chance to have the Black Rage manifest. Guess we'll see.
Just my opinion on that, take it easy.
-Red__Thirst-
Makes sense but I'm pretty sure only the original primaris were made on Mars, now chapters now make their own. I suspect we'll see the black rage manifest in the next BA codex.
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2019/10/28 21:40:05
Subject: Possible GW Dec releases list (40k, Necro, Aos, BB, AI, LotR, Warcry, KT, BSF)
LunarSol wrote: There's like zero chance that GW won't want to get around to selling some Black Rage Primaris models at some point.
It would be absolutely tragic from a lore point of view. I mean, the Primaris lore is terrible anyway, just a ham-fisted and unnecessary way of upscaling marines. And all marines will be Primaris scale at some point, there's now way they're going to be making mini-marines in any significant number from now (hopefully none at all as far as I'm concerned). So this means that, in the future, if Primaris can't be flawed, then BAs will be rageless. I'd like (hope) to think that GW won't allow such a blunder to get through quality control, no matter the quality, or lack thereof, of whichever fluff writer is on BA duty.
2019/10/28 21:44:17
Subject: Possible GW Dec releases list (40k, Necro, Aos, BB, AI, LotR, Warcry, KT, BSF)
Exactly. I'm waiting to see what happens with awoken vs. ascended and the Black Rage, and if anyone (in the lore) draws the same conclusion I have based on available information.
I also feel like, if GW really wanted to bring Sanguinius back, they could have some kind of similar revelation occur as above and go full vampire mode, giving Sanguinius's body his own blood back from all the Sanguinary Priests and him revive once removed from stasis beneath the chapter's fortress monastery on Baal. But, I digress.
Take it easy.
-Red__Thirst-
You don't know me son, so I'll explain this to you once: If I ever kill you, you'll be awake, you'll be facing me, and you'll be armed.
2019/10/28 21:48:04
Subject: Possible GW Dec releases list (40k, Necro, Aos, BB, AI, LotR, Warcry, KT, BSF)
LunarSol wrote: There's like zero chance that GW won't want to get around to selling some Black Rage Primaris models at some point.
It would be absolutely tragic from a lore point of view. I mean, the Primaris lore is terrible anyway, just a ham-fisted and unnecessary way of upscaling marines. And all marines will be Primaris scale at some point, there's now way they're going to be making mini-marines in any significant number from now (hopefully none at all as far as I'm concerned). So this means that, in the future, if Primaris can't be flawed, then BAs will be rageless. I'd like (hope) to think that GW won't allow such a blunder to get through quality control, no matter the quality, or lack thereof, of whichever fluff writer is on BA duty.
Why not try reading the lore before complaining about it? There are free codex pdfs like everywhere. You don't even have the "muh muney" excuse.
2019/10/28 21:52:30
Subject: Possible GW Dec releases list (40k, Necro, Aos, BB, AI, LotR, Warcry, KT, BSF)
LunarSol wrote: There's like zero chance that GW won't want to get around to selling some Black Rage Primaris models at some point.
It would be absolutely tragic from a lore point of view. I mean, the Primaris lore is terrible anyway, just a ham-fisted and unnecessary way of upscaling marines. And all marines will be Primaris scale at some point, there's now way they're going to be making mini-marines in any significant number from now (hopefully none at all as far as I'm concerned). So this means that, in the future, if Primaris can't be flawed, then BAs will be rageless. I'd like (hope) to think that GW won't allow such a blunder to get through quality control, no matter the quality, or lack thereof, of whichever fluff writer is on BA duty.
Why not try reading the lore before complaining about it? There are free codex pdfs like everywhere. You don't even have the "muh muney" excuse.
"muh time" though, "muh time". I stopped trying to read all 40K lore in the early part of the millennium after I realised the drastic variance in quality. I can modify my statement to something more specific if you like. "From what I've read of Primaris lore, it's clumsy, unnecessary, and really not very good". Where did I go wrong with the "Can't be flawed" part though? That they're inexplicably naive and unappealing to the normies? Please elucidate me (I'd actually appreciate that a lot as I'm def not going to be reading much Primaris lore in the near future).
2019/10/28 22:04:41
Subject: Possible GW Dec releases list (40k, Necro, Aos, BB, AI, LotR, Warcry, KT, BSF)
LunarSol wrote: There's like zero chance that GW won't want to get around to selling some Black Rage Primaris models at some point.
It would be absolutely tragic from a lore point of view. I mean, the Primaris lore is terrible anyway, just a ham-fisted and unnecessary way of upscaling marines. And all marines will be Primaris scale at some point, there's now way they're going to be making mini-marines in any significant number from now (hopefully none at all as far as I'm concerned). So this means that, in the future, if Primaris can't be flawed, then BAs will be rageless. I'd like (hope) to think that GW won't allow such a blunder to get through quality control, no matter the quality, or lack thereof, of whichever fluff writer is on BA duty.
Why not try reading the lore before complaining about it? There are free codex pdfs like everywhere. You don't even have the "muh muney" excuse.
"muh time" though, "muh time". I stopped trying to read all 40K lore in the early part of the millennium after I realised the drastic variance in quality. I can modify my statement to something more specific if you like. "From what I've read of Primaris lore, it's clumsy, unnecessary, and really not very good". Where did I go wrong with the "Can't be flawed" part though? That they're inexplicably naive and unappealing to the normies? Please elucidate me (I'd actually appreciate that a lot as I'm def not going to be reading much Primaris lore in the near future).
yeah, yeah there's always a justification for trying to fit in I know. You went wrong with the can't be flawed bit. They can and they are so won't be rageless. We'll get primaris death company for the same reasons we got normal death company.
2019/10/28 22:05:36
Subject: Possible GW Dec releases list (40k, Necro, Aos, BB, AI, LotR, Warcry, KT, BSF)
LunarSol wrote: There's like zero chance that GW won't want to get around to selling some Black Rage Primaris models at some point.
It would be absolutely tragic from a lore point of view. I mean, the Primaris lore is terrible anyway, just a ham-fisted and unnecessary way of upscaling marines. And all marines will be Primaris scale at some point, there's now way they're going to be making mini-marines in any significant number from now (hopefully none at all as far as I'm concerned). So this means that, in the future, if Primaris can't be flawed, then BAs will be rageless. I'd like (hope) to think that GW won't allow such a blunder to get through quality control, no matter the quality, or lack thereof, of whichever fluff writer is on BA duty.
Why not try reading the lore before complaining about it? There are free codex pdfs like everywhere. You don't even have the "muh muney" excuse.
"muh time" though, "muh time". I stopped trying to read all 40K lore in the early part of the millennium after I realised the drastic variance in quality. I can modify my statement to something more specific if you like. "From what I've read of Primaris lore, it's clumsy, unnecessary, and really not very good". Where did I go wrong with the "Can't be flawed" part though? That they're inexplicably naive and unappealing to the normies? Please elucidate me (I'd actually appreciate that a lot as I'm def not going to be reading much Primaris lore in the near future).
In fairness it's really really easy to take even a great story and reduce it to an absurd one paragraph.
Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two
2019/10/28 22:07:26
Subject: Possible GW Dec releases list (40k, Necro, Aos, BB, AI, LotR, Warcry, KT, BSF)
LunarSol wrote: There's like zero chance that GW won't want to get around to selling some Black Rage Primaris models at some point.
It would be absolutely tragic from a lore point of view. I mean, the Primaris lore is terrible anyway, just a ham-fisted and unnecessary way of upscaling marines. And all marines will be Primaris scale at some point, there's now way they're going to be making mini-marines in any significant number from now (hopefully none at all as far as I'm concerned). So this means that, in the future, if Primaris can't be flawed, then BAs will be rageless. I'd like (hope) to think that GW won't allow such a blunder to get through quality control, no matter the quality, or lack thereof, of whichever fluff writer is on BA duty.
Why not try reading the lore before complaining about it? There are free codex pdfs like everywhere. You don't even have the "muh muney" excuse.
"muh time" though, "muh time". I stopped trying to read all 40K lore in the early part of the millennium after I realised the drastic variance in quality. I can modify my statement to something more specific if you like. "From what I've read of Primaris lore, it's clumsy, unnecessary, and really not very good". Where did I go wrong with the "Can't be flawed" part though? That they're inexplicably naive and unappealing to the normies? Please elucidate me (I'd actually appreciate that a lot as I'm def not going to be reading much Primaris lore in the near future).
In fairness it's really really easy to take even a great story and reduce it to an absurd one paragraph.
But in this case it's not even a great story, hell it's not even good. It's a ham-fisted and unnecessary way of upscaling marines.
2019/10/28 22:33:30
Subject: Possible GW Dec releases list (40k, Necro, Aos, BB, AI, LotR, Warcry, KT, BSF)
LunarSol wrote: There's like zero chance that GW won't want to get around to selling some Black Rage Primaris models at some point.
It would be absolutely tragic from a lore point of view. I mean, the Primaris lore is terrible anyway, just a ham-fisted and unnecessary way of upscaling marines. And all marines will be Primaris scale at some point, there's now way they're going to be making mini-marines in any significant number from now (hopefully none at all as far as I'm concerned). So this means that, in the future, if Primaris can't be flawed, then BAs will be rageless. I'd like (hope) to think that GW won't allow such a blunder to get through quality control, no matter the quality, or lack thereof, of whichever fluff writer is on BA duty.
Why not try reading the lore before complaining about it? There are free codex pdfs like everywhere. You don't even have the "muh muney" excuse.
"muh time" though, "muh time". I stopped trying to read all 40K lore in the early part of the millennium after I realised the drastic variance in quality. I can modify my statement to something more specific if you like. "From what I've read of Primaris lore, it's clumsy, unnecessary, and really not very good". Where did I go wrong with the "Can't be flawed" part though? That they're inexplicably naive and unappealing to the normies? Please elucidate me (I'd actually appreciate that a lot as I'm def not going to be reading much Primaris lore in the near future).
In fairness it's really really easy to take even a great story and reduce it to an absurd one paragraph.
But in this case it's not even a great story, hell it's not even good. It's a ham-fisted and unnecessary way of upscaling marines.
All 40k lore is hamfisted, unnecessary, and hilariously stupid. That's the whole point.
2019/10/28 22:46:19
Subject: Possible GW Dec releases list (40k, Necro, Aos, BB, AI, LotR, Warcry, KT, BSF)
LunarSol wrote: There's like zero chance that GW won't want to get around to selling some Black Rage Primaris models at some point.
It would be absolutely tragic from a lore point of view. I mean, the Primaris lore is terrible anyway, just a ham-fisted and unnecessary way of upscaling marines. And all marines will be Primaris scale at some point, there's now way they're going to be making mini-marines in any significant number from now (hopefully none at all as far as I'm concerned). So this means that, in the future, if Primaris can't be flawed, then BAs will be rageless. I'd like (hope) to think that GW won't allow such a blunder to get through quality control, no matter the quality, or lack thereof, of whichever fluff writer is on BA duty.
Why not try reading the lore before complaining about it? There are free codex pdfs like everywhere. You don't even have the "muh muney" excuse.
"muh time" though, "muh time". I stopped trying to read all 40K lore in the early part of the millennium after I realised the drastic variance in quality. I can modify my statement to something more specific if you like. "From what I've read of Primaris lore, it's clumsy, unnecessary, and really not very good". Where did I go wrong with the "Can't be flawed" part though? That they're inexplicably naive and unappealing to the normies? Please elucidate me (I'd actually appreciate that a lot as I'm def not going to be reading much Primaris lore in the near future).
yeah, yeah there's always a justification for trying to fit in I know. You went wrong with the can't be flawed bit. They can and they are so won't be rageless. We'll get primaris death company for the same reasons we got normal death company.
What you mean, trying to fit in? As you can obviously see from all the comments in between this one and the one I'm quoting from you now, I'm in the clear minority. If you're going for the ever popular "Disagreement with me means you're sheeple" angle, then surely I have to be part of the larger flock for this claim to even start making sense no? Could it not conceivably be possible that I have my own opinions, formed independently of the other sheeples that don't see things as you do?
2019/10/28 23:25:14
Subject: Possible GW Dec releases list (40k, Necro, Aos, BB, AI, LotR, Warcry, KT, BSF)
LunarSol wrote: There's like zero chance that GW won't want to get around to selling some Black Rage Primaris models at some point.
It would be absolutely tragic from a lore point of view. I mean, the Primaris lore is terrible anyway, just a ham-fisted and unnecessary way of upscaling marines. And all marines will be Primaris scale at some point, there's now way they're going to be making mini-marines in any significant number from now (hopefully none at all as far as I'm concerned). So this means that, in the future, if Primaris can't be flawed, then BAs will be rageless. I'd like (hope) to think that GW won't allow such a blunder to get through quality control, no matter the quality, or lack thereof, of whichever fluff writer is on BA duty.
Why not try reading the lore before complaining about it? There are free codex pdfs like everywhere. You don't even have the "muh muney" excuse.
"muh time" though, "muh time". I stopped trying to read all 40K lore in the early part of the millennium after I realised the drastic variance in quality. I can modify my statement to something more specific if you like. "From what I've read of Primaris lore, it's clumsy, unnecessary, and really not very good". Where did I go wrong with the "Can't be flawed" part though? That they're inexplicably naive and unappealing to the normies? Please elucidate me (I'd actually appreciate that a lot as I'm def not going to be reading much Primaris lore in the near future).
yeah, yeah there's always a justification for trying to fit in I know. You went wrong with the can't be flawed bit. They can and they are so won't be rageless. We'll get primaris death company for the same reasons we got normal death company.
What you mean, trying to fit in? As you can obviously see from all the comments in between this one and the one I'm quoting from you now, I'm in the clear minority. If you're going for the ever popular "Disagreement with me means you're sheeple" angle, then surely I have to be part of the larger flock for this claim to even start making sense no? Could it not conceivably be possible that I have my own opinions, formed independently of the other sheeples that don't see things as you do?
I think he means the “Hate All Primaris, All the Time Crowd.” Sheeple and those people aren’t mutually exclusive, but if represented on a Venn diagram, the shared area would be large.
Now that you do know, you will stop exacerbating the false notion that Primaris have no gene flaws, won’t you?
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If the truth can destroy it, then it deserves to be destroyed.
2019/10/28 23:47:56
Subject: Possible GW Dec releases list (40k, Necro, Aos, BB, AI, LotR, Warcry, KT, BSF)
Could we please get off the hate and/or love all the time Primaris angle. Some do find their story completely dumb, others think its the best thing since spray sticks, lets just agree to disagree and save the slings for the next Primaris hate thread.
2019/10/29 00:25:35
Subject: Possible GW Dec releases list (40k, Necro, Aos, BB, AI, LotR, Warcry, KT, BSF)
LunarSol wrote: There's like zero chance that GW won't want to get around to selling some Black Rage Primaris models at some point.
It would be absolutely tragic from a lore point of view. I mean, the Primaris lore is terrible anyway, just a ham-fisted and unnecessary way of upscaling marines. And all marines will be Primaris scale at some point, there's now way they're going to be making mini-marines in any significant number from now (hopefully none at all as far as I'm concerned). So this means that, in the future, if Primaris can't be flawed, then BAs will be rageless. I'd like (hope) to think that GW won't allow such a blunder to get through quality control, no matter the quality, or lack thereof, of whichever fluff writer is on BA duty.
Why not try reading the lore before complaining about it? There are free codex pdfs like everywhere. You don't even have the "muh muney" excuse.
"muh time" though, "muh time". I stopped trying to read all 40K lore in the early part of the millennium after I realised the drastic variance in quality. I can modify my statement to something more specific if you like. "From what I've read of Primaris lore, it's clumsy, unnecessary, and really not very good". Where did I go wrong with the "Can't be flawed" part though? That they're inexplicably naive and unappealing to the normies? Please elucidate me (I'd actually appreciate that a lot as I'm def not going to be reading much Primaris lore in the near future).
In fairness it's really really easy to take even a great story and reduce it to an absurd one paragraph.
But in this case it's not even a great story, hell it's not even good. It's a ham-fisted and unnecessary way of upscaling marines.
All 40k lore is hamfisted, unnecessary, and hilariously stupid. That's the whole point.
Right, it is absurd, over the top, insane, violent & the best scifi out there.
2019/10/29 01:03:17
Subject: Possible GW Dec releases list (40k, Necro, Aos, BB, AI, LotR, Warcry, KT, BSF)
LunarSol wrote: There's like zero chance that GW won't want to get around to selling some Black Rage Primaris models at some point.
It would be absolutely tragic from a lore point of view. I mean, the Primaris lore is terrible anyway, just a ham-fisted and unnecessary way of upscaling marines. And all marines will be Primaris scale at some point, there's now way they're going to be making mini-marines in any significant number from now (hopefully none at all as far as I'm concerned). So this means that, in the future, if Primaris can't be flawed, then BAs will be rageless. I'd like (hope) to think that GW won't allow such a blunder to get through quality control, no matter the quality, or lack thereof, of whichever fluff writer is on BA duty.
Why not try reading the lore before complaining about it? There are free codex pdfs like everywhere. You don't even have the "muh muney" excuse.
"muh time" though, "muh time". I stopped trying to read all 40K lore in the early part of the millennium after I realised the drastic variance in quality. I can modify my statement to something more specific if you like. "From what I've read of Primaris lore, it's clumsy, unnecessary, and really not very good". Where did I go wrong with the "Can't be flawed" part though? That they're inexplicably naive and unappealing to the normies? Please elucidate me (I'd actually appreciate that a lot as I'm def not going to be reading much Primaris lore in the near future).
yeah, yeah there's always a justification for trying to fit in I know. You went wrong with the can't be flawed bit. They can and they are so won't be rageless. We'll get primaris death company for the same reasons we got normal death company.
What you mean, trying to fit in? As you can obviously see from all the comments in between this one and the one I'm quoting from you now, I'm in the clear minority. If you're going for the ever popular "Disagreement with me means you're sheeple" angle, then surely I have to be part of the larger flock for this claim to even start making sense no? Could it not conceivably be possible that I have my own opinions, formed independently of the other sheeples that don't see things as you do?
I think he means the “Hate All Primaris, All the Time Crowd.” Sheeple and those people aren’t mutually exclusive, but if represented on a Venn diagram, the shared area would be large.
Now that you do know, you will stop exacerbating the false notion that Primaris have no gene flaws, won’t you?
Automatically Appended Next Post: Will you tell others that don’t know so they may be informed?
Fair enough. What I've read left me quite unimpressed. No one need take offense to that. Others can like it, that's fine, I maintain that I do not. But I still don't actually "know". I asked him to explain a little of what the flaws are (the only flaws that I've seen are an inexplicable naivite and a lack of trust from the others - basically just some nonsensical quirks to keep them below full marysue status), but he just said that they have flaws and left it at that. Not that flaws are necessarily essential - I still don't like the story. Anyway, I chose not to press it. Maybe you could add some info. They're the same flaws as their predecessors or something?
2019/10/29 01:21:15
Subject: Possible GW Dec releases list (40k, Necro, Aos, BB, AI, LotR, Warcry, KT, BSF)
LunarSol wrote: There's like zero chance that GW won't want to get around to selling some Black Rage Primaris models at some point.
It would be absolutely tragic from a lore point of view. I mean, the Primaris lore is terrible anyway, just a ham-fisted and unnecessary way of upscaling marines. And all marines will be Primaris scale at some point, there's now way they're going to be making mini-marines in any significant number from now (hopefully none at all as far as I'm concerned). So this means that, in the future, if Primaris can't be flawed, then BAs will be rageless. I'd like (hope) to think that GW won't allow such a blunder to get through quality control, no matter the quality, or lack thereof, of whichever fluff writer is on BA duty.
Why not try reading the lore before complaining about it? There are free codex pdfs like everywhere. You don't even have the "muh muney" excuse.
"muh time" though, "muh time". I stopped trying to read all 40K lore in the early part of the millennium after I realised the drastic variance in quality. I can modify my statement to something more specific if you like. "From what I've read of Primaris lore, it's clumsy, unnecessary, and really not very good". Where did I go wrong with the "Can't be flawed" part though? That they're inexplicably naive and unappealing to the normies? Please elucidate me (I'd actually appreciate that a lot as I'm def not going to be reading much Primaris lore in the near future).
yeah, yeah there's always a justification for trying to fit in I know. You went wrong with the can't be flawed bit. They can and they are so won't be rageless. We'll get primaris death company for the same reasons we got normal death company.
What you mean, trying to fit in? As you can obviously see from all the comments in between this one and the one I'm quoting from you now, I'm in the clear minority. If you're going for the ever popular "Disagreement with me means you're sheeple" angle, then surely I have to be part of the larger flock for this claim to even start making sense no? Could it not conceivably be possible that I have my own opinions, formed independently of the other sheeples that don't see things as you do?
I think he means the “Hate All Primaris, All the Time Crowd.” Sheeple and those people aren’t mutually exclusive, but if represented on a Venn diagram, the shared area would be large.
Now that you do know, you will stop exacerbating the false notion that Primaris have no gene flaws, won’t you?
Automatically Appended Next Post: Will you tell others that don’t know so they may be informed?
Fair enough. What I've read left me quite unimpressed. No one need take offense to that. Others can like it, that's fine, I maintain that I do not. But I still don't actually "know". I asked him to explain a little of what the flaws are (the only flaws that I've seen are an inexplicable naivite and a lack of trust from the others - basically just some nonsensical quirks to keep them below full marysue status), but he just said that they have flaws and left it at that. Not that flaws are necessarily essential - I still don't like the story. Anyway, I chose not to press it. Maybe you could add some info. They're the same flaws as their predecessors or something?
Mostly the same, just nothing terrible like turning into Wulfen, full-on Black Rage, or Cursed founding bone-knife problems. Just the same Red-Thirst level fury and SW-equivalent beginning type problem. Just a bunch of stuff that GW could use as a platform to dive from if they want to.
If I recall correctly, simple things like the Salamander skin and eye issues carry over, though I’m not sure if Imperial Fists Primaris can spit acid or not.
If the truth can destroy it, then it deserves to be destroyed.
2019/10/29 01:26:39
Subject: Re:Possible GW Dec releases list (40k, Necro, Aos, BB, AI, LotR, Warcry, KT, BSF)
keep in mind primaris have been active for only a few centuries. not nesscarily long eneugh for some of these geneseed quirks to really manifest. my guess is the primaris project bought chapters like the blood angels and space wolves a bit of time (time until they finally release death company primaris and primaris wulfen) but thats about it.
Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two
2019/10/29 08:35:05
Subject: Possible GW Dec releases list (40k, Necro, Aos, BB, AI, LotR, Warcry, KT, BSF)
So in one of those leaked list we saw an item called "The Sabbat Worlds Crusade 65$". Really intrigued what this is. Sounds like a coffe table book like the Knight one some time back.
2019/10/29 08:45:25
Subject: Possible GW Dec releases list (40k, Necro, Aos, BB, AI, LotR, Warcry, KT, BSF)
Ragnar69 wrote: So in one of those leaked list we saw an item called "The Sabbat Worlds Crusade 65$". Really intrigued what this is. Sounds like a coffe table book like the Knight one some time back.
There was a pretty decent fluff book by Abnett, but iirc when I bought mine a very long time ago it was one of the £15 ones (I later sold if for a lot more when it became OOP). So I dunno how it could be the same thing cos that's like 3x more costly than the old one.
2019/10/29 09:02:22
Subject: Possible GW Dec releases list (40k, Necro, Aos, BB, AI, LotR, Warcry, KT, BSF)
Ragnar69 wrote: So in one of those leaked list we saw an item called "The Sabbat Worlds Crusade 65$". Really intrigued what this is. Sounds like a coffe table book like the Knight one some time back.
Its a reprint of the old SWC book by Dan Abnett but with new artwork etc
2019/10/29 09:34:41
Subject: Possible GW Dec releases list (40k, Necro, Aos, BB, AI, LotR, Warcry, KT, BSF)
Ragnar69 wrote: So in one of those leaked list we saw an item called "The Sabbat Worlds Crusade 65$". Really intrigued what this is. Sounds like a coffe table book like the Knight one some time back.
There was a pretty decent fluff book by Abnett, but iirc when I bought mine a very long time ago it was one of the £15 ones (I later sold if for a lot more when it became OOP). So I dunno how it could be the same thing cos that's like 3x more costly than the old one.
fancy leather hard cover, GWfigures they can charge double or triple if they do that
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2019/10/29 09:51:11
Subject: Re:Possible GW Dec releases list (40k, Necro, Aos, BB, AI, LotR, Warcry, KT, BSF)
Ragnar69 wrote: So in one of those leaked list we saw an item called "The Sabbat Worlds Crusade 65$". Really intrigued what this is. Sounds like a coffe table book like the Knight one some time back.
There was a pretty decent fluff book by Abnett, but iirc when I bought mine a very long time ago it was one of the £15 ones (I later sold if for a lot more when it became OOP). So I dunno how it could be the same thing cos that's like 3x more costly than the old one.
fancy leather hard cover, GWfigures they can charge double or triple if they do that
They probably can - I want my novels cheap, but the "shelf books" like this I'll spend more for the fancy version. The only thing preventing this from being a must-buy for me is the nagging sense that it's not actually a complete product yet - they've revised it once, what happens after the remaining Ghosts books have come out, will they revise it again? I'd have been happier to see them do something like reprint the original in fancified format as Volume 1, bulk out the new material a bit and do that as Volume 2, and then say "and we'll maybe do a volume 3 when the series concludes". That way people who bought the first book don't feel short changed, and people who buy in now don't risk feeling short changed if they were to release another even bigger and better version later on, as each additional lump of info would be its own book.
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2019/10/29 10:42:19
Subject: Possible GW Dec releases list (40k, Necro, Aos, BB, AI, LotR, Warcry, KT, BSF)
Looking over the Warhammer Community Page, we received an announcement almost exactly this time last year (28/10) of what some of the Christmas bundles would be. I wonder if they’ll be announcing and previewing them that early again this year, especially with these possible leaks. Personally, I’d like to see the Blood Angels box contents before the Sisters go on pre-order, because I’m only going to commit to buy one box
2019/10/29 11:04:54
Subject: Possible GW Dec releases list (40k, Necro, Aos, BB, AI, LotR, Warcry, KT, BSF)
Ragnar69 wrote: So in one of those leaked list we saw an item called "The Sabbat Worlds Crusade 65$". Really intrigued what this is. Sounds like a coffe table book like the Knight one some time back.
There was a pretty decent fluff book by Abnett, but iirc when I bought mine a very long time ago it was one of the £15 ones (I later sold if for a lot more when it became OOP). So I dunno how it could be the same thing cos that's like 3x more costly than the old one.
fancy leather hard cover, GWfigures they can charge double or triple if they do that
Looks a bit thicker, maybe it's a mere doubling of price?
2019/10/29 11:41:53
Subject: Possible GW Dec releases list (40k, Necro, Aos, BB, AI, LotR, Warcry, KT, BSF)
Ragnar69 wrote: So in one of those leaked list we saw an item called "The Sabbat Worlds Crusade 65$". Really intrigued what this is. Sounds like a coffe table book like the Knight one some time back.
There was a pretty decent fluff book by Abnett, but iirc when I bought mine a very long time ago it was one of the £15 ones (I later sold if for a lot more when it became OOP). So I dunno how it could be the same thing cos that's like 3x more costly than the old one.
fancy leather hard cover, GWfigures they can charge double or triple if they do that
Looks a bit thicker, maybe it's a mere doubling of price?
this is GW for every page added they'll increase the price by what the original cost...
*wishes he was joking and not mostly serious*
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2019/10/29 11:59:42
Subject: Possible GW Dec releases list (40k, Necro, Aos, BB, AI, LotR, Warcry, KT, BSF)
it is a bit annoying. It's possible Dan Abnett will stop writing about the Ghosts now with the last story arc completed. If there are however more Ghosts books, then there probably will be a newer, slightly updated version of Sabbat Worlds Crusade. It's the same with the Visions of Heresy ones. I got the latest, but the Heresy book series wasn't quite complete, and the Siege of Terra hadn't been written about, so there'll almost certainly be another.
phillv85 wrote: it is a bit annoying. It's possible Dan Abnett will stop writing about the Ghosts now with the last story arc completed. If there are however more Ghosts books, then there probably will be a newer, slightly updated version of Sabbat Worlds Crusade. It's the same with the Visions of Heresy ones. I got the latest, but the Heresy book series wasn't quite complete, and the Siege of Terra hadn't been written about, so there'll almost certainly be another.
If the Ghosts are done, the main thrust will be over, but if he finally adds sequels for Titanicus and Double Eagle, those are in the same setting,
2019/10/29 16:07:53
Subject: Possible GW Dec releases list (40k, Necro, Aos, BB, AI, LotR, Warcry, KT, BSF)
phillv85 wrote: it is a bit annoying. It's possible Dan Abnett will stop writing about the Ghosts now with the last story arc completed. If there are however more Ghosts books, then there probably will be a newer, slightly updated version of Sabbat Worlds Crusade. It's the same with the Visions of Heresy ones. I got the latest, but the Heresy book series wasn't quite complete, and the Siege of Terra hadn't been written about, so there'll almost certainly be another.
If the Ghosts are done, the main thrust will be over, but if he finally adds sequels for Titanicus and Double Eagle, those are in the same setting,
Yeah indeed, there's plenty of scope to go back to the Sabbat Worlds.
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