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Why scrap them? They add to the theme of the game and give an additional set of allegiance abilities to build armies within as well as a useful keyword for abilities that affect everything from one alliance.

Just to clarify, my main issue with the GAs is that the Order alliance is so vaguely defined that it makes it difficult for the other alliances to have expansion potential. By Overread's definition, Tzeentch could be an Order army. I've seen multiple arguments for Tomb Kings being an Order army. Pick a random fantasy trope and make an army out of it, and it's going to fit Order better than any of the other three alliances. I understand the purpose of the alliances as a high-level way of organizing armies, but now that the Allies system is firmly established, I feel like the GAs don't add anything to the game.

Voss wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Spirit hosts are in Nighthaunt, dunno where you got that tidbit from.

That they're on the Legion of Nagash store page but not the Nighthaunt store page. If they're in the Nighthaunt book, then its another GW web error, but GW's list of what makes up each army is what I'm going by.

Oh, you are going by store listing. Those are helpful but only semi-right; in AoS armies are determined by keyword. This means a given unit can be in multiple armies, but rather than listing the same unit in multiple sections on the store GW just kept it to one. Personally I think that makes things more confusing especially for newer players who may not have gone over the core rules word-by-word to know how it works.

As for releases, the best way to make the case would be to list all the battletome & new unit releases then compare the numbers. Wouldn't take all that long and would clear up who got how much.

Feel free. It seems pretty cut and dry to me that Death got two new armies in AoS 2.0, since one was just a few months ago and the other arrived with the AoS 2.0 boxed set.

New armies (in the sense of having significant amounts of new kits) since AoS release:

Order: Stormcast, Fyreslayers, DoK, Idoneth, KO, Sylvaneth
Chaos: Mono-god armies x4
Destruction: Gloomspite, Ironjawz
Death: Nighthaunt, OBR

So Death and Destruction remain at the bottom by a fair margin.

Eh. I think we differ a bit on 'significant amount'

Stormcast and Khorne, obviously, yes. Nighthaunt and OBR yes, Gloomspite, KO and Idoneth are fair.

DoK on the other hand got... two kits and Morathi. Slaanesh got the keeper, fiends update, and some rando special characters.

Fyreslayers are maybe five kits total? They look so samey, its hard to tell (plus the endless spells that aren't spells and the forge, which are recent)

Sylvies got.. a couple kits just for AoS? A remember at least some of those weird things happened for the horrible WE update at the end of fantasy, a fair bit of Nurgle was end times. Tzeentch is a weird mix of Quest, 40k and some actual AoS releases.

Voss wrote:
Eh. I think we differ a bit on 'significant amount'

Stormcast and Khorne, obviously, yes. Nighthaunt and OBR yes, Gloomspite, KO and Idoneth are fair.

DoK on the other hand got... two kits and Morathi. Slaanesh got the keeper, fiends update, and some rando special characters.

Fyreslayers are maybe five kits total? They look so samey, its hard to tell (plus the endless spells that aren't spells and the forge, which are recent)

Sylvies got.. a couple kits just for AoS? A remember at least some of those weird things happened for the horrible WE update at the end of fantasy, a fair bit of Nurgle was end times. Tzeentch is a weird mix of Quest, 40k and some actual AoS releases.

DoK got two kits that made four units... and Morathi.

Fyreslayers was still a whole army, with their kits being able to make multiple units, or heros in the case of the magmadroth.

I don'y even remember what Sylvaneth got at the start... Kurnoth Hunters, Allarielle? Maybe the tree revenants?

Kurnoths ranged/melee loadouts, spites/revenenants dual kit, drycha, alarielle, terrain feature, and endless spells.

DoK are probably the smallest with two dual kits and one special character... But at the same time Morathi is one hell of a kit. And dual kits are still two different units, they add more to an army than a single-build.

Ironjawz and Fyreslayers are both light on their lineups, but they are still new armies. Ironjawz only cannibalized one older kit into its lineup.

All the mono-god armies got a large number of new models. Slaanesh is the lowest with KoS/Shalaxi dual, Syll'Esque, Masque, Enrapturess, Contorted Epitome, Fiends, endless spells and terrain--8 new kits.

At any rate when counting up new kits Death is still well behind Order and Chaos, ahead of only Destruction. AoS has seen a good amount of death models RECENTLY but to say they've hogged AoS (a sentiment I have witnessed numerous times of late) is a little silly for anyone who remembers further back than a year! I know it can seem bad but I encourage people not to put too much stock in it, AoS's history has shown us that all the alliances will get new miniatures at quite a rapid pace.

Thursday will reveal teclics, but the art of the models not terrible

Ladies and gentlemen...Teclis:


Digital renders of his iconic weaponry:

Come back soon for a look at their wielder – and much, much more – with the LVO preview on Thursday.** Seriously, you’re going to want to see this.

Here's the article

Could this be the year of Pointy Aelves and Eldar?

SamusDrake wrote:
Could this be the year of Pointy Aelves and Eldar?

Eldar need more than one release to make it their year. Not to say that new Banshees and an Aspect warriors are not good, but that its only one of multiple resin aspect groups that needs updating for them. Now if they can get rangers, warpsiders, scoptions, etc... into plastic this year then yeah that's year of the Eldar!

 Kanluwen wrote:
Ladies and gentlemen...Teclis:


Digital renders of his iconic weaponry:

Come back soon for a look at their wielder – and much, much more – with the LVO preview on Thursday.** Seriously, you’re going to want to see this.

Here's the article

Yep regardless of the rest of the range, if they all take their cues from that image then I have what I’ve wanted for the last 5 years, AoS High (A)elves

Well, his hat got even dumber.

I like that art a lot. Roll on Thursday! (Well, Friday morning).

What can I say. I love it....

And it is not because he reminds me of someone that I also love...

Look like he'll be prancing around with a silly pose :(

SamusDrake wrote:
Could this be the year of Pointy Aelves and Eldar?

Just this once, can we not do this? It always ends up the same way. A playre says "Year of the Elf" on a facebook post, the social media gives a non-committal response like "sounds fun", and everyone takes it as a blood oath from GW. Six month later, Aeldar get 2-3 really cool kits, then moves on to the next release. The community gets up in arms because GW "promised" Year of the Elf, but we only got X kits! Where's my Year of the Elf?!? It's Orktober/C'thulu Elves all over again.

I wonder what are those light things that he has. The hat is a bit silly but the aesthetics should be neat.

If I'm reading it correctly we're going to see more teasers until LVO?

Well

I'm keen

 Knight wrote:
I wonder what are those light things that he has. The hat is a bit silly but the aesthetics should be neat.

If I'm reading it correctly we're going to see more teasers until LVO?

The next time we’ll see something is LVO, is how I read it.

 streetsamurai wrote:
Look like he'll be prancing around with a silly pose :(

Yes. He is an elf.

He's blue dabadidabada....

 ImAGeek wrote:
The next time we’ll see something is LVO, is how I read it.

The miniatures for certain. It's the...

Over the next few weeks, you’ll have the chance to find out.

It can be from LVO forwards, but it would also make sense to post small fluff crumbs until LVO.

I'm totally seeing metal sideburns. Couple with his facial expression and how he looks down on something, he's trying to evoke beard envy from some poor, ground-bound dwarfs.

 EnTyme wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:
Could this be the year of Pointy Aelves and Eldar?

Just this once, can we not do this? It always ends up the same way. A playre says "Year of the Elf" on a facebook post, the social media gives a non-committal response like "sounds fun", and everyone takes it as a blood oath from GW. Six month later, Aeldar get 2-3 really cool kits, then moves on to the next release. The community gets up in arms because GW "promised" Year of the Elf, but we only got X kits! Where's my Year of the Elf?!? It's Orktober/C'thulu Elves all over again.

Sounds fun!

 Knight wrote:
I wonder what are those light things that he has.

The things hanging from his belt, right?

If I had to hazard a guess, they're mirrors or some new version of the Waystones that High Elves used to have around Ulthuan to protect the souls of the fallen.

 Gallahad wrote:
Well, his hat got even dumber.

"Dumber" is a strange way of saying "awesome and appropriate to his new godly status" but to each their own!

But seriously, ridiculous headwear is a tradition of Warhammer since it's earliest days and I am glad they aren't changing it.


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 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

 streetsamurai wrote:
Look like he'll be prancing around with a silly pose :(

Yes. He is an elf.

True, and exalted

 Knight wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
The next time we’ll see something is LVO, is how I read it.

The miniatures for certain. It's the...

Over the next few weeks, you’ll have the chance to find out.

It can be from LVO forwards, but it would also make sense to post small fluff crumbs until LVO.

LVO is just under a week from now. I don’t think we’ll see much til then, and then the over the next few weeks will be between then and the release.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 Gallahad wrote:
Well, his hat got even dumber.

"Dumber" is a strange way of saying "awesome and appropriate to his new godly status" but to each their own!

But seriously, ridiculous headwear is a tradition of Warhammer since it's earliest days and I am glad they aren't changing it.


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 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

 streetsamurai wrote:
Look like he'll be prancing around with a silly pose :(

Yes. He is an elf.

True, and exalted

Yeah, people seem to forget Nagash exists, and he has the greatest bone pope hat that was ever made.

 Geifer wrote:
I'm totally seeing metal sideburns. Couple with his facial expression and how he looks down on something, he's trying to evoke beard envy from some poor, ground-bound dwarfs.

 EnTyme wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:
Could this be the year of Pointy Aelves and Eldar?

Just this once, can we not do this? It always ends up the same way. A playre says "Year of the Elf" on a facebook post, the social media gives a non-committal response like "sounds fun", and everyone takes it as a blood oath from GW. Six month later, Aeldar get 2-3 really cool kits, then moves on to the next release. The community gets up in arms because GW "promised" Year of the Elf, but we only got X kits! Where's my Year of the Elf?!? It's Orktober/C'thulu Elves all over again.

Sounds fun!

Agreed - let’s do it!

(I mean, we’re going to be doing regardless, but bonus points for committing early!)

Not a High Elf player, but that design is pretty great. Maybe my Morathi needs a mate...

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
AoS has seen a good amount of death models RECENTLY but to say they've hogged AoS (a sentiment I have witnessed numerous times of late) is a little silly for anyone who remembers further back than a year!

I think the issue - if I go by myself and my FLGS - it is that the lore feels very Sigmar v. Nagash centric which gets very samey(just like it was Sigmar v. Khorne in AoS 0.0). I'd personally love to see more lore from the other factions being involved in the god-tier level chess that Sigmar and Nagash are engaged in. Which is why I hope Teclis brings some interesting new power dynamic into play in the lore as teased in this article.

I am also super-stoked for pointy elves.