Age of Sigmar N & R: AoS v3 and Dominion p.172.

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**Overread**

Jacob29 wrote:
GaroRobe wrote:
Jacob29 wrote:
Also why can you buy Radukar the Wolf on his own???

He has literally 0 gameplay value on his own...

Because he's the only one that has a separate sprue from the get-go. Like the boss from BSF, its so much easier for them to repack and sell

Feel like there should be a warning somewhere though....

Like the Battletome?

Though I do get what you mean, but at the same time chances are as its direct order only most who order will have at least read the battletome prior or have some means to search for ideal starting lists and such. Plus total newbies would be pushed toward the getting started set with troops and leader as a starting point.

**Wha-Mu-077**

Eh, personally, i'm almost impressed how seamlessly the Wight King seems to fit the much older Black Knights and Grave Guard.

**DarkStarSabre**

Jacob29 wrote:
Also why can you buy Radukar the Wolf on his own???

He has literally 0 gameplay value on his own...

Painting project or display piece purposes is my guess. Not everyone needs the whole court just to paint up one vampire.

**Kanluwen**

Donomar wrote:

You're completely in the right in the assertion as it was done extremely poorly and would have been understandable if they came out with an frank statement acknowledging why a heavily marketed continuous run boxset suddenly went poof after the predictable initial run sellout. The deletion etc., coupled with the intentional expansion sets and now them being released as a 'direct only' sale, does make one feel that the whole Cursed City project didn't exactly go to plan on their end.

Would also help if Radukar and the bad guys lot were not direct only allowing for third party discounts which would at least mitigate some of the ire associated with the boxset being sold out and not available anymore.

Third party retailers, as far as I'm aware, can order Direct Only items but with zero discount on their end.

**SamusDrake**

Jacob29 wrote:
Also why can you buy Radukar the Wolf on his own???

He has literally 0 gameplay value on his own...

So long as they provide the warscroll on the website, he can still be used. Maybe not for matched play but open and narrative are still a thing.

Also, it might be the case he appears in Warcry, along with his court...

EDIT: This model can be a legit Vampire Lord as Obsidious Mallex is now a normal Chaos Lord model in 40K.

**lord_blackfang**

RIP Cursed City

Anyone got price list?

**Overread**

Prices normally appear a few days into the next week, so Tuesday to Wednesday we'll likely start hearing about regional price.s

**Crimson**

I just hope that they will release the Cursed City heroes separately too. Those are some really nice miniatures.

**Irbis**

Jacob29 wrote:
Also why can you buy Radukar the Wolf on his own???

He has literally 0 gameplay value on his own...

He has 'blade' so he is more legal mini for Vampire Lord than actual Vampire Lord

And to be honest, that's what I would run him as. Vyrkos vampires are supposed to all be Eastern Europe wannabes, so Warhammer Fantasy-esque minis just don't fit their look at all. Small Radukar is funnily enough very good at filling that hole...

**Wha-Mu-077**

Irbis wrote:
Jacob29 wrote:
Also why can you buy Radukar the Wolf on his own???

He has literally 0 gameplay value on his own...

He has 'blade' so he is more legal mini for Vampire Lord than actual Vampire Lord

And to be honest, that's what I would run him as. Vyrkos vampires are supposed to all be Eastern Europe wannabes, so Warhammer Fantasy-esque minis just don't fit their look at all. Small Radukar is funnily enough very good at filling that hole...

Are they on the same base size?

**NinthMusketeer**

Nothing a base swap wouldn't fix either way.

**SamusDrake**

Crimson wrote:
I just hope that they will release the Cursed City heroes separately too. Those are some really nice miniatures.

Would be nice but sadly they didn't do this for the Blackstone Fortress explorers.

**Wha-Mu-077**

SamusDrake wrote:
Crimson wrote:
I just hope that they will release the Cursed City heroes separately too. Those are some really nice miniatures.

Would be nice but sadly they didn't do this for the Blackstone Fortress explorers.

I mean, they didn't do it for Blackstone Fortress enemies either, and yet here we are

**SamusDrake**

Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
SamusDrake wrote:
Crimson wrote:
I just hope that they will release the Cursed City heroes separately too. Those are some really nice miniatures.

Would be nice but sadly they didn't do this for the Blackstone Fortress explorers.

I mean, they didn't do it for Blackstone Fortress enemies either, and yet here we are

Actually, they did.

Chaos Lord, Servants of the Abyss and Cultists of the Abyss - that last one you can still buy.

EDIT: Actually, you can also buy the Chaos Lord.

**beast_gts**

Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
SamusDrake wrote:
Crimson wrote:
I just hope that they will release the Cursed City heroes separately too. Those are some really nice miniatures.

Would be nice but sadly they didn't do this for the Blackstone Fortress explorers.

I mean, they didn't do it for Blackstone Fortress enemies either, and yet here we are

They did, and Obsidius Mallex / Chaos Lord and "Cultists of the Abyss" are still available in the UK ("Servants of the Abyss" looks to be OOP).

**Tastyfish**

Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
SamusDrake wrote:
Crimson wrote:
I just hope that they will release the Cursed City heroes separately too. Those are some really nice miniatures.

Would be nice but sadly they didn't do this for the Blackstone Fortress explorers.

I mean, they didn't do it for Blackstone Fortress enemies either, and yet here we are

They did, the chaos lord was released separately as well as the 'reinforcements' set that had an extra set of the sprues with more beastmen, ghouls and traitor guard etc.
"Servants of the Abyss"

**Goose LeChance**

Seems odd to fill the SC box with Grave Guard, considering they just released new skeletons that don't match at all.

**Sotahullu**

Coenus Scaldingus wrote:
Wonder how big the Wight King ends up being compared to the older plastics he's forced to be accompanied by for the foreseeable future (c'mon GW...). Difficult to tell from the pic, which is probably photoshopped anyway.

Well that new set is not bad if it the price is about the same as earlier ones but I do think they should have made Wight King separate also. And he is actually quite chunky.

And (although I am probably sole person in these regards) I don't think Black Knights are bad for their point cost.

**Dryaktylus**

Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Eh, personally, i'm almost impressed how seamlessly the Wight King seems to fit the much older Black Knights and Grave Guard.

Well... Wights, mounted Wights and a Wight King praised for beeing old-school... It's not that hard.

**GaroRobe**

The Black Knights aren't as old as the rest of the range. They came out alongside the Coven Throne, Vargheists, etc. I'm expecting them to be a bit smaller, but the kit still looks good. Much better than the grave guard. They really should repaint these for the website

**Wha-Mu-077**

GaroRobe wrote:
The Black Knights aren't as old as the rest of the range. They came out alongside the Coven Throne, Vargheists, etc. I'm expecting them to be a bit smaller, but the kit still looks good. Much better than the grave guard

Meh, makes sense for them to be slightly smaller than the leader dude

**TalonZahn**

Heavy Intercessors wave politely at the Wight King also being locked in a box for a couple months before being release individually.

**Irbis**

NinthMusketeer wrote:
I like how Volga and Raddy the Beast have additional models incorporated onto their bases. Really makes them feel more integrated into the army as a whole for me. The more I look at these four vampire sculpts the more I like them. From Volga's unique clothing aesthetic to how freakishly gaunt Annika is, I think there were a lot of excellent choices made in those designs.

Eh, I have different feeling, because these models aren't really 'part' of the army. Where is unit of wolf footed rapier vampires? Or huge wolves like the one accompanying Volga? There isn't even anything in the tome you can proxy them as, no elite infantry or big scary animals, making them seem like useless stragglers in the rules and taunting Vyrkos playes in what might have been...

Goose LeChance wrote:
Seems odd to fill the SC box with Grave Guard, considering they just released new skeletons that don't match at all.

I am shocked they put in 20 of them, if it was 40K box, they would find a way to put in 5 or maybe 10 at best. See AoS still getting SC while 40K gets crap value CP. Fun fact, DA Combat "Patrol" has ~1/3 of the mini count found in this CP

**SamusDrake**

It would be supremely cool if the Cursed City explorers were released alongside the Witchhunters, and had rules in Broken Realms: Kragnos. Pretty sure most of them would come under Cities of Sigmar and would be a good-guy counter part to Radukar's Court.

**Wha-Mu-077**

SamusDrake wrote:
It would be supremely cool if the Cursed City explorers were released alongside the Witchhunters, and had rules in Broken Realms: Kragnos. Pretty sure most of them would come under Cities of Sigmar and would be a good-guy counter part to Radukar's Court.

If something is preventing GW from making anymore Cursed City, i bet the same thing would be preventing them from making any expansions.

**Kanluwen**

SamusDrake wrote:
It would be supremely cool if the Cursed City explorers were released alongside the Witchhunters, and had rules in Broken Realms: Kragnos. Pretty sure most of them would come under Cities of Sigmar and would be a good-guy counter part to Radukar's Court.

The Witch Hunter in Cursed City is an agent of Neferata, so I don't know on that...

Also, I don't think Cities of Sigmar is long for this world in its current iteration. They've done "Retinues" so, so, so much better in other armies than the one they first threw the idea out in. It's really disappointing how heavily they continually sold that concept on while doing nothing meaningful with it.

Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
SamusDrake wrote:
It would be supremely cool if the Cursed City explorers were released alongside the Witchhunters, and had rules in Broken Realms: Kragnos. Pretty sure most of them would come under Cities of Sigmar and would be a good-guy counter part to Radukar's Court.

If something is preventing GW from making anymore Cursed City, i bet the same thing would be preventing them from making any expansions.

It's literally been known for years now that the bottleneck for these kinds of things is always the cardboard components.

GW doesn't produce those in-house. Nothing prevents them from doing the models. Why they don't is anyone's guess.

**drbored**

Kanluwen wrote:
SamusDrake wrote:
It would be supremely cool if the Cursed City explorers were released alongside the Witchhunters, and had rules in Broken Realms: Kragnos. Pretty sure most of them would come under Cities of Sigmar and would be a good-guy counter part to Radukar's Court.

The Witch Hunter in Cursed City is an agent of Neferata, so I don't know on that.

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Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
SamusDrake wrote:
It would be supremely cool if the Cursed City explorers were released alongside the Witchhunters, and had rules in Broken Realms: Kragnos. Pretty sure most of them would come under Cities of Sigmar and would be a good-guy counter part to Radukar's Court.

If something is preventing GW from making anymore Cursed City, i bet the same thing would be preventing them from making any expansions.

It's literally been known for years now that the bottleneck for these kinds of things is always the cardboard components.

GW doesn't produce those in-house. Nothing prevents them from doing the models. Why they don't is anyone's guess.

"Agent of Neferata" is pretty strong. It seemed to me more that she sent some money along to commission a vampire hunter to go deal with her allies, and less that he knows he's working for Neferata and follows her blindly. It's the same as if Ronald McDonald hired an assassin to kill the Burger King. The assassin is just taking the money and doing the job.

**Wha-Mu-077**

Kanluwen wrote:

Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
SamusDrake wrote:
It would be supremely cool if the Cursed City explorers were released alongside the Witchhunters, and had rules in Broken Realms: Kragnos. Pretty sure most of them would come under Cities of Sigmar and would be a good-guy counter part to Radukar's Court.

If something is preventing GW from making anymore Cursed City, i bet the same thing would be preventing them from making any expansions.

It's literally been known for years now that the bottleneck for these kinds of things is always the cardboard components.

GW doesn't produce those in-house. Nothing prevents them from doing the models. Why they don't is anyone's guess.

Well, it's safe to assume any Cured City expansion would have cardboard in them, innit?

**GaroRobe**

I would be much more interested in the Wight King bundle if it had the 10 easy to build skeletons from Cursed City. Not big on the grave guard, and I want that skeleton leader with the face mask.

Just a potential warning; if you want the Cursed City baddies, buy them pretty quickly. They probably won't stay around for long, despite having rules in the battle tome. When they released the BSF bad guy boxes, they were only around for a year or less. Now you can't even find them

**Kanluwen**

The BSF bad guy boxes were an actual item that was for sale on shelves and had its own box and everything.

Direct "white box of shame" only items tend to have a slightly longer lifespan, unless called out as Made to Order.