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JWBS wrote:
This https://twitter.com/sliimegg/status/1505940230171332609/photo/1

LOL

funny photoshopping

In case anyone missed it, GW revised the wording on the sun killers rules. I feel vindicated.

Models may not choose to make a Cover Save, but may still make applicable Armour or Invulnerable saves, against Wounds,
Glancing Hits or Penetrating Hits inflicted by attacks made with this special rule. Attacks made as Snap Shots gain no benefit
from this special rule, and saves are taken against them as per the standard rules.

Crablezworth?

So the unit just has Ignores Cover but with a catch. Wow. Very good.

 jojo_monkey_boy wrote:
In case anyone missed it, GW revised the wording on the sun killers rules. I feel vindicated.

Models may not choose to make a Cover Save, but may still make applicable Armour or Invulnerable saves, against Wounds,
Glancing Hits or Penetrating Hits inflicted by attacks made with this special rule. Attacks made as Snap Shots gain no benefit
from this special rule, and saves are taken against them as per the standard rules.

Crablezworth?

So they could have literally wrote:Shooting attacks but not snap shots made by this unit have the no cover special rule.

Apologies for reading too much into the paragraph long run-on sentence and thinking they were actually trying to do something interesting with all that wasted space.


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 Gert wrote:
So the unit just has Ignores Cover but with a catch. Wow. Very good.

Weird how even the clarification can't find itself communicating with any sense of brevity.

The Horus Heresy’s New Edition Revealed in this Jaw-Dropping Cinematic Trailer - WarCom

Beakies are Back – First Miniatures from The Horus Heresy’s New Edition Spotted at AdeptiCon - WarCom

The trailer was neat. Animation quality was better than I expected.

EviscerationPlague wrote:
The trailer was neat. Animation quality was better than I expected.

Yeah, production quality was really good and the titan stuff was well done, great sense of scale.

So, from the article (not mentioned in the stream)

The Praetors are some of the first kits moving to plastic, making the game more approachable than ever before. If you’re a fan of the lore or the Horus Heresy series from Black Library, but you’re not so familiar with advanced resin kits, this is the edition of the game you’ve been waiting for. Both miniatures will be in the launch set for the new edition, on which we’ll have more details coming very soon…

So... thoughts? Doom? Jubilation?
The implications there...

what are the odds the new mkvi kit has both torso and legs merged like the rest?

Voss wrote:
So, from the article (not mentioned in the stream)

The Praetors are some of the first kits moving to plastic, making the game more approachable than ever before. If you’re a fan of the lore or the Horus Heresy series from Black Library, but you’re not so familiar with advanced resin kits, this is the edition of the game you’ve been waiting for. Both miniatures will be in the launch set for the new edition, on which we’ll have more details coming very soon…

So... thoughts? Doom? Jubilation?
The implications there...

The praetor previewed needs work but is ok, just very busy and lots of frilly stuff and the axe is way too big. Plastic is good, especially core plastic. The mk6 armour looks a bit leggy. Hopefully the box is affordable. The rules look bad.

Plastic stuff = more people likely to play the game which in turn = greater attention from GW with regards to events and releases. What really matters is the state of the new rules. It's already caused a rift in the HH internet communities and that rift will only grow.

 Gert wrote:
What really matters is the state of the new rules. It's already caused a rift in the HH internet communities and that rift will only grow.

Well at least the plastic will work for both, only silver lining really.


This made me laugh a bit, the designers need a less a is more approach imo, there's a delicate balance between "this is a character/leader model, it should look distinguished in some way" and "lets just put as much fiddly stuff all over as possible, people love having to hack stuff off models to show millimeters of actual armour plate". I think the praetor will look great after the hobby knife and head swap.

I do wonder what the stats of the axe will be.

What type of power armour is that though?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
What type of power armour is that though?

Whichever mark of armour had chainmail. C'mon now, 30k players have never been pedantic enough to care about silly little details like power armour mark, that's impossible


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EviscerationPlague wrote:
I do wonder what the stats of the axe will be.

Might be a relic blade, if those still exist in this edition.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
What type of power armour is that though?

Artificer MkVI presumeably.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
What type of power armour is that though?

The sort that is just crying out for a transparent fishbowl helmet.

That trailer was
So a couple of things I noticed. The new plastic Praetor is in the trailer at the parade/muster scene. But also the IF that gets gutted by Horus looks like an alternate build with a different back banner, power sword and mk6 helmet.
The Sicarans in the trailer look like they have a dozer blade and a new turret with a similar style to the Deimos pattern Predator. Fingers crossed for a plastic kit.

 Crablezworth wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
What type of power armour is that though?

Whichever mark of armour had chainmail. C'mon now, 30k players have never been pedantic enough to care about silly little details like power armour mark, that's impossible


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EviscerationPlague wrote:
I do wonder what the stats of the axe will be.

Might be a relic blade, if those still exist in this edition.

Probably Paragon Blade then, good call.

EviscerationPlague wrote:

 Crablezworth wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
What type of power armour is that though?

Whichever mark of armour had chainmail. C'mon now, 30k players have never been pedantic enough to care about silly little details like power armour mark, that's impossible


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EviscerationPlague wrote:
I do wonder what the stats of the axe will be.

Might be a relic blade, if those still exist in this edition.

Probably Paragon Blade then, good call.

lol right, thinking 40k

I wonder if paragon/power fist will still be a thing.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
What type of power armour is that though?

Artificer armour.

I like the Praetor, although I hope the cape is optional, it makes the silhouette a bit strange. Excited to see what else makes it to plastic.

Is the MkVI marine pictured at the same scale as the rest of the heresy line?
He seems big.

GoatboyBeta wrote:
the IF that gets gutted by Horus looks like an alternate build with a different back banner, power sword and mk6 helmet.

Going back and looking at the leaked pics, the IF character looks to be quite different from this SoH guy. So maybe two Praetor kits?

GoatboyBeta wrote:

GoatboyBeta wrote:
the IF that gets gutted by Horus looks like an alternate build with a different back banner, power sword and mk6 helmet.

Going back and looking at the leaked pics, the IF character looks to be quite different from this SoH guy. So maybe two Praetor kits?

He looks to be facing off vs the newly revealed SoH praetor, and is different. I'd expect a consul/ captain model than a second praetor if they both co e I the same box. Calth came with a praetor in TDA and a chaplain.

EviscerationPlague wrote:
The trailer was neat. Animation quality was better than I expected.

How did they get Christian Bale to do his Batman voice for the narration, though?


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 Waaagh_Gonads wrote:
Is the MkVI marine pictured at the same scale as the rest of the heresy line?
He seems big.

With any luck, they will fit in with Primaris.

They actually did it! They announced the new version

Not sure about the Prætor

 privateer4hire wrote:

EviscerationPlague wrote:
The trailer was neat. Animation quality was better than I expected.

How did they get Christian Bale to do his Batman voice for the narration, though?


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 Waaagh_Gonads wrote:
Is the MkVI marine pictured at the same scale as the rest of the heresy line?
He seems big.

With any luck, they will fit in with Primaris.

With luck? HH marines are supposed to be 7 foot. Not 8 foot equalling custodians...Custodes are supposed to be taller than marines yet you want to break the fluff just like that?

Sure do. I don’t want my primaris towering over my HH miniatures. They need to make HH bigger so they will look right if used in 40k.

Not a fan of the Praetor. Hopefully there are other options in the kit than that stupid axe.

Love the new Praetor model. Bold new direction for Horus Heresy & Firstborn Marines in general. Very John Blanche. Can't wait to see what else will make the jump in plastic.