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2022/03/24 08:53:36
Subject: Re:Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - All Heresy 2.0 rules leak in OP - Reactions Rules Pg72
Some comments on Warhammer Community saying the game is a development of existing HH rules (i.e. 7th edition) rather than a complete rehash. That will most certainly lower some blood pressures.
They say they have made some improvements, so it remains to be seen if they end up as Fabius Bile type 'improvements'
Awesome trailer. I hope legion-specific units are done in plastic eventually, because the scale/quality difference between some units is a bit much for me, but excited to see what comes next.
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2022/03/24 09:42:01
Subject: Re:Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Heresy 2.0 announced
So here's a potential rumour from the animated cinematic. might just be artistic interpretation, but maybe theres a new sicaran model planned for the new range, i.e. new plastic sicaran?
because the one in the trailer has a different turret from what is available on forgeworld:
plus it has a neat spikey plow/ram
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Porkandbeans wrote: So here's a potential rumour from the animated cinematic. might just be artistic interpretation, but maybe theres a new sicaran model planned for the new range, i.e. new plastic sicaran?
because the one in the trailer has a different turret from what is available on forgeworld:
plus it has a neat spikey plow/ram
According to Macca (who has the prototype/playtest rules) they're "Kratos" tanks, which stat wise are a essentially a land-raider with a battle cannon.
2022/03/24 09:51:30
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Heresy 2.0 announced
Porkandbeans wrote: ooh, whereabouts can I find info from Macca? is it earlier in this thread?
Latest video on the channel.
Be aware, this is macca after all, so he spends most of the time giving (not unfair) critique of the new praetor, and the fact that the new face/get starting of HH is mk VI, instead of IV or V.
2022/03/24 11:20:18
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Heresy 2.0 announced
Beakies look excellent and they indeed seem to be in the new increased scale, being the same size than the new CSM (so still slightly smaller than the primaris.) I have no interest in HH, but I kinda want to kitbash the beakies with the CSM. I also hope that any new tanks will be usable in 40K for both Chaos and Imperium.
Yeah he makes good points. And the fact the sicarian aren't sicarian but yet another new pattern made by GW to sell plastic instead of just selling the current patterns of vehicles in plastic is telling me everything I need to now about this new Horus Heresy. They are going to change and "add" lots of new things and people will be happy just because there is "change"
It's primaris all over again...
I'm very curious about the fact the trailer show so many titans. They seem very important. Guess we'll know very soon
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godardc wrote: Yeah he makes good points. And the fact the sicarian aren't sicarian but yet another new pattern made by GW to sell plastic instead of just selling the current patterns of vehicles in plastic
I'm very curious about the fact the trailer show so many titans. They seem very important. Guess we'll know very soon
The warcom article says:
In fact, now is the perfect time to get started with The Horus Heresy. While many general kits in the range will be moving to plastic, there aren’t currently any such plans for the Legion-specific units or Primarchs
My guess would be assault marines, support squads (+ heavies), and vehicles. Maybe bikes. No reason to assume we won't see the sicaran as well.
Titans, probably heavily included for two reasons - artistic (for scale), and cross-marketing with Titanicus. Plus they're cool.
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So, if you haven’t yet picked a side, you could do worse than collecting your chosen Primarch or other mighty hero in anticipation of a plastic Legion for them to lead.
I like the Praetor as he can easily be changed to any legion with a different paint scheme. I'd think about doing Iron Warriors myself, maybe swap the axe for a hammer, but leaving the axe and making him an assault captain verging on going all Khornate is a thought too. I'd change the back banner as well, but could swap skulls for alien skulls or helmets. It all comes down to price.
LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14
2022/03/24 12:54:27
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Heresy 2.0 announced
Coming back on this again, just looked it up - the Kratos appeared in Book 8, so it's existed on paper since 2019. They were probably already at work on the kit then. I didn't recognise the name previously as that's the one black book I've not got.
godardc wrote: I'm very curious about the fact the trailer show so many titans. They seem very important. Guess we'll know very soon
They do have an entire game, with it's own model range, devoted to Knights, that also has Titan's thrown in. Seriously though, could just be an opportunity to cross sell Adeptus Titanicus.
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2022/03/24 13:32:17
Subject: Re:Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Heresy 2.0 announced
In all seriousness, if this guy has a good set of options
(which the ad copy implies)
Does the article imply that? It says the new armor mark kit will be flexible, but I'd expect the plastic Praetor to be like the old Space Marine Heroes kit. Plus, from his pose, any other weapons will look awkward.
In all seriousness, if this guy has a good set of options
(which the ad copy implies)
Does the article imply that? It says the new armor mark kit will be flexible, but I'd expect the plastic Praetor to be like the old Space Marine Heroes kit. Plus, from his pose, any other weapons will look awkward.
He could easily have an alternate head, alternate backpack trophy rack and different 2 handed weapons (Thunderhammer, Chainglaive, Custodian style spear) or even convert him to a banner bearer with a standard. Sure not a great pose for gun or sword and board.
LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14
2022/03/24 13:42:52
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Heresy 2.0 announced
Bummer that the legion specific units/characters will stay resin only but I guess it was to be expected.
That video was incredible, I wish thats what Warhammer+ content looked like - if it did I would be able to retire young from the obscene value my GW stock holdings would have lol.er that the legion specifi
CoALabaer wrote: Wargamers hate two things: the state of the game and change.
2022/03/24 13:45:54
Subject: Re:Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Heresy 2.0 announced
In all seriousness, if this guy has a good set of options
(which the ad copy implies)
Does the article imply that? It says the new armor mark kit will be flexible, but I'd expect the plastic Praetor to be like the old Space Marine Heroes kit. Plus, from his pose, any other weapons will look awkward.
He could easily have an alternate head, alternate backpack trophy rack and different 2 handed weapons (Thunderhammer, Chainglaive, Custodian style spear) or even convert him to a banner bearer with a standard. Sure not a great pose for gun or sword and board.[/quote
Its all but confirmed the praetor at least has a helmet option. In the trailer, we see him wearing a helmet with a little halo on top. (1:17 in the video).
2022/03/24 13:52:57
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Heresy 2.0 announced
Coming back on this again, just looked it up - the Kratos appeared in Book 8, so it's existed on paper since 2019. They were probably already at work on the kit then. I didn't recognise the name previously as that's the one black book I've not got.
It has two mentions in the fluff, under The Battle for Signus Prime:
p.58 wrote:As the slower elements finally reached the front of the advance, squadrons of obsolete Kratos battle tanks from the Red Tear's reserve armouries joined the fray. Previously retired in favour of faster, more multi-purpose vehicles such as the ubiquitous Predator, the Kratos served as a dedicated infantry support tank and its heavy cannon quickly opened a path for the infantry to follow. Between the righteous fury of the Erelim and supporting infantry echelons, and the devastation wrought by the canister shells of the Kratos, the vanguard began to advance once more.
p.72 wrote:Of all of the squadrons sent into the hell that had been the Battle for Signus Prime, the ones that had fared best had been the obsolete Kratos support tanks, whose heavy armour and close support weapons had enabled them to survive in the melee, while faster, more specialised vehicles had been isolated and tom apart.
2022/03/24 13:56:16
Subject: Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Heresy 2.0 announced
Seriously though, could just be an opportunity to cross sell Adeptus Titanicus.
