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**RazorEdge**

From Reddit, Discord, 4Chan ect.:

here are some further informations for the Horus Heresy release in his Year.

Preorders for the first content are planned for May, releae then in June.

Releases for June:

>"Heta-Gladius" Launch Box: - £240

>Rulebook - £43

>Three Codex like compilation Books - £32.50 each
>>Loyalists
>>Traitors
>>Other Age of Darkness Armies - Loyalists and Traitors

Relaases for July:

> Three different Starter Sets - £180 /£100 / £40 each

>Space Marine Legionary + Paints Sets (A + B) - £23 each
>>3 Space Marines
>>7 paints

>Getting Started with Horus Heresy Magazine - £10
>>Includeds 2 Space Marine Legionaries

Releases for August:

>Space Marine Legion Tactical Squad - £36
>>10 Models multipart in the same fashion like the Chaos Space Marines
>>Common weapon options

>Daimos Pattern Rhino - £31

>Space Marine Legion Praetor - £22
>>Not the same Model than was already shown

Releases for September:

>Daimos Pattern Predator - £39
>Upgrade Spue Sons of Horus - £9.50
>Upgrade Spue Imperial Fists - £9.50
>Upgrade Spue Blood Angels - £9.50
>Upgrade Spue Emperors Children - £9.50
>Upgrade Spue White Scras - £9.50
>Upgrade Spue World Eaters - £9.50

Releases without date:

>Daimos Pattern Vindicator - £39
>Kratos Battle Tank - £52.50
>Land Raider - £52.50
>Land Raider Spartan - £60
>Contemptor Dreadnought - £35
>Space Marine Tactical Squad + Rhino - £57
>Daimos Pattern Rhino Suqadron - £87
>Daimos Pattern Predator Squadron - £107

>Space Marine Auxillary ->>I absolutly don't know what this is.

Mikhael

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer30k/comments/tq9xhs/horus_heresy_launch/

**Voss**

zedmeister wrote:
Obligatory link:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/03/28/caught-horus-heresy-fever-play-the-new-edition-before-its-released-at-a-special-warhammer-world-event/

Oh. Alright. The July tournament announcement puzzled me, but digging into it, its the old system and old books (which fair, even if the game is releasing in July, that's a real quick turnaround to expect system mastery, especially at 3000 points.

So, May preview and ?? release still. Ninja'd by reddit rumors (but I'll take everything with extra salt for the next week or so)

Hmm. upgrade sprues. If they're in plastic, that might be worth waiting for. I wonder how they'll do them- beakies only need one shoulder pad (the proper one for the chapter symbol) and not much else.

**zedmeister**

Crimson wrote:
I can appreciate attention to detail, but ultimately I play a fantasy wargame instead of a historical one so that I have freedom to use my imagination. I will convert, model and paint my army according to what I think looks cool, not according to some dusty manual of made-up history that has already been retconned countless times and is self-contradictory. In this regard the strength of Warhammer has always been that the fluff is vague, messy and up to interpretation, so it seems extremely counterproductive to get all OCD about it.

All well and good. I'm a big advocate of "Your Dudes" but we need to accept that the other strand exists and they will always be there and will always be ready to criticse the official releases from GW if they don't match the previously established lore. Probably the reason why GW has recently hired a lore overseer. If, however, some's criciticising your personal work, then shame on them.

**chaos0xomega**

Worst part of those rumors is that I literally just ordered myself 4 Deimos Rhinos, 2 Vindicator Laser Destroyers and a Land Raider MkIIb to convert for my 40k Thousand Sons. Would much prefer to work with plastic vs resin, but whatever I guess.

Wonder which version the plastic land raider kit will be.

Also theres no such thing as a "Land Raider Spartan".

Automatically Appended Next Post:
Just realized that rumor comes from Admiral_SKK, might as well be made up bs for how much bs hes posted which has yet to come to fruition. Worse than Faeit.

**Gert**

It gets called that sometimes since it was originally a conversion from the RT Land Raider. The Rhino pattern is also the Deimos not Daimos after the Martian moon but these leaks started off with a "Lunch Box" so yknow, spelling obviously isn't this rumour person's strong suit.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

There was in Rogue Trader.

Or am I thinking of the Claymore?

**oni**

I'll believe it when I see it. If true... Damn! That's pretty awesome.

**Shadox**

With Necromunda and all this probably coming, 'tis will be an expensive year...

**Gadzilla666**

I would assume that the Land Raider will be either a Proteus or Achilles. Personally hoping for a Proteus, as I already have an Achilles.

**Tannhauser42**

Gadzilla666 wrote:
I would assume that the Land Raider will be either a Proteus or Achilles. Personally hoping for a Proteus, as I already have an Achilles.

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if it's just the same old Land Raider just repackaged with the Horus Heresy logo on the box. Maybe they'll add one of the HH variants into the box.

**Dudeface**

I saw the proce list and sort of went "meh not as horrid as I expected" then went and saw that cataphractii are now £42.50 rrp. No way is a posable contemptor dread £35 if they're flogging termies at that band.

**Sabotage!**

I like that there are potentially multiple starter sets. As someone who only has interest in Zone Mortalis and small games, I definitely don't need a bunch of tanks. Also the legions I would choose MKVI doesn't really match my head aesthetic for them, so I could just get a couple squads from a smaller boxed set.

**godardc**

Wait so, I didn't get it: there is a tournament in July (23th and 24th), for which the tickets are on sale on April, 4th, but what's on May, 7th ?

**SamusDrake**

Three different starter sets and a "getting started" magazine? A £240 launch box?

Is The Horus Heresy really as big as 40K and AoS? I'm certainly all for it, as it bodes well for The Old World next year, but finding it hard to believe.

**Albertorius**

SamusDrake wrote:
Three different starter sets and a "getting started" magazine? A £240 launch box?

Is The Horus Heresy really as big as 40K and AoS? I'm certainly all for it, as it bodes well for The Old World next year, but finding it hard to believe.

Might be a "dress for the job you want" kind of situation. Seeing as SMs still sell more than anything else, they might see a release of a full SM game (yes, yes, there's some other factions, but still) through GW regular instead of FW as a license to print money.

They might even be right.

**chaos0xomega**

SamusDrake wrote:
Three different starter sets and a "getting started" magazine? A £240 launch box?
Is The Horus Heresy really as big as 40K and AoS? I'm certainly all for it, as it bodes well for The Old World next year, but finding it hard to believe.

Considering that Space Marines alone make up something like 30% of GWs total sales volume, I would say yes, but also that it doesn't matter if Horus Heresy is "as big" as 40k (or AoS which is substantially smaller than 40k), because on the basis of it being a box full of space marines theres a clear market demand for it regardless. I wouldn't necessarily take it as an indicator of the Old World for that reason alone (as the old story goes, Space Marines alone outsold the entirety of the Warhammer Fantasy product range from ~2003 until the WHFBs demise about a decade later).

Its certainly believable though, I expect that 240 GBP box to come in over 300 American (if I were to guess, probably $320-360 range) - for sake of comparison the Adeptus Titanicus Grandmaster Edition box was like 290 USD (not sure on GBP) when it released in 2018/2019 and contained substantially less content vs what is being indicated in the leaked photos.

**Voss**

SamusDrake wrote:
Three different starter sets and a "getting started" magazine? A £240 launch box?

Is The Horus Heresy really as big as 40K and AoS? I'm certainly all for it, as it bodes well for The Old World next year, but finding it hard to believe.

It bodes nothing for Old World. Its a completely different sausage*

This is 'we heard you like Space Marines, so here's some Space Marines fighting Space Marines that you can just use together to fight Space Marines.'
Also its really low risk, since people will happily buy these models to use in 40k (and that isn't speculation, it happened with Calth and Prospero), for multiple factions- Chaos and Imperial (and the long long list of subfactions). From a GW sales perspective, this is probably the easiest 'best seller' candidate they've ever done. Even some folks who've already decided they hate the new HH ruleset may well buy the box just for the models.

*By comparison, Old World is going to maybe have a starter that's going to be...?
Old style Empire vs something? Maybe a civil war? Limited fanbase and no use to current AoS players.
Or a new style that will alienate the old players they want to lure back through pure nostalgia and vague promises?
Depending on how they handle it, they can easily lose people's interest, no matter which side of the fence they sit on. There's still room to do something impressive, but it doesn't have the branding, utility or general popularity of 'here's a big box of SPACE MARINES, go nuts'

**tneva82**

Except it's firstborn marines. Not so much use for them in 40k anymore.

**Voss**

tneva82 wrote:
Except it's firstborn marines. Not so much use for them in 40k anymore.

Except for all the people that still use them. There's no point in trying to start that argument here.

**Dudeface**

tneva82 wrote:
Except it's firstborn marines. Not so much use for them in 40k anymore.

Unless you play a heretic legion.

**Kid_Kyoto**

tneva82 wrote:
Except it's firstborn marines. Not so much use for them in 40k anymore.

Upscaled firstborn, in super-awesome retro armor but updated to modern standards.

Sign me up.

**Racerguy180**

tneva82 wrote:
Except it's firstborn marines. Not so much use for them in 40k anymore.

My 40k list is 100% FB and will remain so for the foreseeable future. So I'll be using them for 40k while pulling double duty with all the other 30k units I have.

I'm really looking forward to the box.

**ClockworkZion**

Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Thunder Warriors or GTFO.

Thunder Warriors vs techno barbarians in the ruins of Earth. That's the game I want now.

I was thinking about that myself. Feels ripe for a Necromunda style game.

**tauist**

RazorEdge wrote:
From Reddit, Discord, 4Chan ect.:

here are some further informations for the Horus Heresy release in his Year.

Preorders for the first content are planned for May, releae then in June.

Releases for June:

>"Heta-Gladius" Launch Box: - £240

>Rulebook - £43

>Three Codex like compilation Books - £32.50 each
>>Loyalists
>>Traitors
>>Other Age of Darkness Armies - Loyalists and Traitors

Relaases for July:

> Three different Starter Sets - £180 /£100 / £40 each

>Space Marine Legionary + Paints Sets (A + B) - £23 each
>>3 Space Marines
>>7 paints

>Getting Started with Horus Heresy Magazine - £10
>>Includeds 2 Space Marine Legionaries

Releases for August:

>Space Marine Legion Tactical Squad - £36
>>10 Models multipart in the same fashion like the Chaos Space Marines
>>Common weapon options

>Daimos Pattern Rhino - £31

>Space Marine Legion Praetor - £22
>>Not the same Model than was already shown

Releases for September:

>Daimos Pattern Predator - £39
>Upgrade Spue Sons of Horus - £9.50
>Upgrade Spue Imperial Fists - £9.50
>Upgrade Spue Blood Angels - £9.50
>Upgrade Spue Emperors Children - £9.50
>Upgrade Spue White Scras - £9.50
>Upgrade Spue World Eaters - £9.50

Releases without date:

>Daimos Pattern Vindicator - £39
>Kratos Battle Tank - £52.50
>Land Raider - £52.50
>Land Raider Spartan - £60
>Contemptor Dreadnought - £35
>Space Marine Tactical Squad + Rhino - £57
>Daimos Pattern Rhino Suqadron - £87
>Daimos Pattern Predator Squadron - £107

>Space Marine Auxillary ->>I absolutly don't know what this is.

Mikhael

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer30k/comments/tq9xhs/horus_heresy_launch/

I hope these rumours aren't true.. My poor wallet.. But if they happen to be true, it's a dream come true for Rogue Trader freaks! Imagine, in 2022 you'll be able to buy a classic Rhino, Predator & Land Raider to go with your Beakies - all as modern GW plastic kits.

Mind. Blown.

**Marshal Loss**

Plastic legion upgrade spruies would be amazing, but unfortunately that poster is just an attention seeker.

**Tastyfish**

Mr_Rose wrote:
MonkeyBallistic wrote:
There are no retcons in 40K, just a succession of unreliable narrators

In my view, The Horus Heresy is a legend from the prehistory of the Imperium. The stories in the Black Library novels and the background in the Forge World books are just one version of what might have happened.

Yeah, the black books even say they are not first-person accounts but assemblies of secondary and tertiary sources made several centuries after the conclusion of the Scouring, and definitely incomplete and inaccurate because some details had been deliberately obscured/censored.

Remember, the building of the Great Pyramid of Giza is closer to now than the Heresy is to “now” in 40K. Ten thousand years is a looong time.

You want to feel old? The first release of the Tau codex is closer to Rogue Trader's publication date than we are...by seven years.

**H.B.M.C.**

Plastic Legion upgrade sprues? Would be interesting if I didn't already have a host of WE upgrades. Would be nice to get WE Tartaros pads though, I guess.

Plastic dome-top Predators? Now that's a different story altogether.

**insaniak**

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Plastic dome-top Predators? Now that's a different story altogether.

Oh god, yes.

Also if they release a plastic version of the Land Raider Proteus, I can finally stop pretending I'm ever going to try to assemble that second resin one that's sitting downstairs...

**tauist**

insaniak wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:

Plastic dome-top Predators? Now that's a different story altogether.

Oh god, yes.

Also if they release a plastic version of the Land Raider Proteus, I can finally stop pretending I'm ever going to try to assemble that second resin one that's sitting downstairs...

I too have an unassembled resin Land Raider (armoured Proteus) which I have been too nervous about to start building it. Might as well leave it unbuilt at this point in time and see if we get a Plastic version; I could then sell the resin one for profit (once the resin models goes OOP).

But it's too early to take these rumours as very convincing yet. Sounds too good to be true tbh

**Tavis75**

chaos0xomega wrote:
Its certainly believable though, I expect that 240 GBP box to come in over 300 American (if I were to guess, probably $320-360 range) - for sake of comparison the Adeptus Titanicus Grandmaster Edition box was like 290 USD (not sure on GBP) when it released in 2018/2019 and contained substantially less content vs what is being indicated in the leaked photos.

The Adeptus Titanicus Grandmaster box was 180 GBP, so by that reckoning the HH launch box would be around 385-390 USD (not accounting for random regional price differences due to reasons).