Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Plastic Land Raider Proteus - Roadmap Pg202

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**Gert**

I'd be surprised if any of the larger units get ported to plastic. Things like Contemptors and Sicarans are some of FW's best-selling kits for both HH and 40k so porting them over is a no-brainer. The Deimos pattern vehicles are likewise very popular.
Kits that people tend to buy lots of are what is seemingly getting ported over and the only evidence anyone has for these new plastic kits is that the resin ones were removed from the FW store.

**GoatboyBeta**

I'd guess the still resin variants of the Spartan, Sicaran and Deimos pattern Rhino chassis are the most likely bets for future kits.
The Saber and Arquitor share the Sicaran's styling. Alongside the Kratos they would give the HH a visually distinct family of tank designs. No idea how well there existing kits sell though.
The Fellblade and its variants would be great in plastic. But a Banblade sized kit would be a big step and I suspect the Kratos is intended to fill the big tank space(for now)

**BrianDavion**

Gert wrote:
I'd be surprised if any of the larger units get ported to plastic. Things like Contemptors and Sicarans are some of FW's best-selling kits for both HH and 40k so porting them over is a no-brainer. The Deimos pattern vehicles are likewise very popular.
Kits that people tend to buy lots of are what is seemingly getting ported over and the only evidence anyone has for these new plastic kits is that the resin ones were removed from the FW store.

depends on what you mean by "larger" I suppose. I mean... we're unlikely to see plastic titans and the primarchs will likely remain in resin (although if we get a future loyalist primarch model for 40k I'd not be too suprised to see a 40K/HH duel kit) my guess is forge world will offer "alternative legion sculpts" and upgrade bits, as well as some assorted lords of war etc.

**Midnightdeathblade**

I could see a Fellblade/Glaive/Falchion kit. Seeing as half the kit is based on the plastic Baneblade, it wouldn't be too crazy for them to make an upgrade sprue or 3 for it.

**BrianDavion**

Midnightdeathblade wrote:
I could see a Fellblade/Glaive/Falchion kit. Seeing as half the kit is based on the plastic Baneblade, it wouldn't be too crazy for them to make an upgrade sprue or 3 for it.

I could too TBH.

outside of Space Marines I'd not be suprised if Custodes see more of their HH stuff shifting to plastic, (in fact I expect long term what doesn't shift to plastic getting largely dropped)

**Mammoth miniatures**

Very nice
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/04/21/heresy-thursday-ride-to-battle-in-spartan-style-aboard-the-new-plastic-assault-tank/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=the-horus-heresy&utm_content=spartanrevealarticle210422&fbclid=IwAR1Nw-808eI7bdaf6HD1md8ZF39cGu8eGgCfn7iVi7bzjYnZu9WC85SWxdI

**zedmeister**

Oh yeah, plastic Spartan!

Also, pintle weapons and alternatives to the Heavy Bolters, nice

**jullevi**

Madness? This is Spartan!

With the box art model being yellow, I hope GW will re-release Averland Sunset spray.

**zedmeister**

Also, notice the MkII crewman

**ClockworkZion**

Spartan looking nice and chonk. I approve.

Spoiler:

**Gert**

That's fine, I didn't need money.

**Geifer**

I'm not saying this is my new favorite Land Raider, but it's got everything I wanted out of one*. Mk.III variation of crewman, slightly exposed wheels so its side armor doesn't scrape over the ground if it hits the bump, exposed top tracks, sponson mount with top and bottom connections**, and all of that in plastic. They even painted it yellow.

*I mean, I won't like the price. That'll be the only unfortunate thing about it.
**Standard for Land Raiders, luckily, but all to often absent on Predators.

**Scrub**

I respect the fact that it isn't hovering!

**ClockworkZion**

Geifer wrote:
I'm not saying this is my new favorite Land Raider, but it's got everything I wanted out of one*. Mk.III variation of crewman, slightly exposed wheels so its side armor doesn't scrape over the ground if it hits the bump, exposed top tracks, sponson mount with top and bottom connections**, and all of that in plastic. They even painted it yellow.

*I mean, I won't like the price. That'll be the only unfortunate thing about it.
**Standard for Land Raiders, luckily, but all to often absent on Predators.

Not to be that guy, but I think that's a MkII guy in the turret.

**GaroRobe**

ClockworkZion wrote:
Geifer wrote:
I'm not saying this is my new favorite Land Raider, but it's got everything I wanted out of one*. Mk.III variation of crewman, slightly exposed wheels so its side armor doesn't scrape over the ground if it hits the bump, exposed top tracks, sponson mount with top and bottom connections**, and all of that in plastic. They even painted it yellow.

*I mean, I won't like the price. That'll be the only unfortunate thing about it.
**Standard for Land Raiders, luckily, but all to often absent on Predators.

Not to be that guy, but I think that's a MkII guy in the turret.

I think its Mk 2 as well. And it look sooo good. Ugh I'm never going to be able to pick up that helmet off ebay; Mk 3 helmets are already impossible to find and they come in a 10 man box

**Geifer**

ClockworkZion wrote:
Geifer wrote:
I'm not saying this is my new favorite Land Raider, but it's got everything I wanted out of one*. Mk.III variation of crewman, slightly exposed wheels so its side armor doesn't scrape over the ground if it hits the bump, exposed top tracks, sponson mount with top and bottom connections**, and all of that in plastic. They even painted it yellow.

*I mean, I won't like the price. That'll be the only unfortunate thing about it.
**Standard for Land Raiders, luckily, but all to often absent on Predators.

Not to be that guy, but I think that's a MkII guy in the turret.

No worries. I didn't phrase that very well. I want Mk.III crew, and I don't really care if it's already Mk.III or something as easily converted as Mk.II. Mostly as long as the arms and back look suitably close to Mk.III, I'm good. Torso front and head are easily replaced with Mk.III bits.

**gorgon**

Well, here comes the flood of nu-Heresy softies spoiled rotten by "easy track assembly" and associated "infrequent cursing and bleeding" and overall "less weight than a shot put".

**blood reaper**

gorgon wrote:
Well, here comes the flood of nu-Heresy softies spoiled rotten by "easy track assembly" and associated "infrequent cursing and bleeding" and overall "less weight than a shot put".

If the kit didn't make you want to kill yourself, then you aren't a real Heresy Head.

**gorgon**

blood reaper wrote:
gorgon wrote:
Well, here comes the flood of nu-Heresy softies spoiled rotten by "easy track assembly" and associated "infrequent cursing and bleeding" and overall "less weight than a shot put".

If the kit didn't make you want to kill yourself, then you aren't a real Heresy Head.

**Snrub**

feth THE SPARTAN! PLASTIC MkII!!!!!

**blood reaper**

gorgon wrote:
blood reaper wrote:
gorgon wrote:
Well, here comes the flood of nu-Heresy softies spoiled rotten by "easy track assembly" and associated "infrequent cursing and bleeding" and overall "less weight than a shot put".

If the kit didn't make you want to kill yourself, then you aren't a real Heresy Head.

In all seriousness, I have actually encountered people who scorned the advent of plastic kits for the HH because the price premium of Forge World kits "kept the poors out".

**KidCthulhu**

This is what I felt the plastic Land Raider always should have looked like. The proper successor to the RT one. I don't even play and I want one of these to paint for my IW!

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Kind of want a Spartan.

**NightReconnaissance**

Also confirms the rumour that it came with parts to make tank crew in MkIII armour. Same source for that also source of all the other release rumours.

For brevity the other rumours from that guy.

Spoiler:

**Shadow Walker**

Spartan looks great. Now show me Kratos.

**Geifer**

KidCthulhu wrote:
This is what I felt the plastic Land Raider always should have looked like. The proper successor to the RT one. I don't even play and I want one of these to paint for my IW!

I can 100% subscribe to this. Except for the Iron Warriors part. I guess I can, like, 95% subscribe to this.

**Gert**

NightReconnaissance wrote:
Also confirms the rumour that it came with parts to make tank crew in MkIII armour. Same source for that also source of all the other release rumours.

I don't see how it confirms that rumour when that isn't Mk3. The helmet has a single vision slit, has the armour bond down the centre of the helm, and the gauntlets don't cover the wrist enough. Mk2 and Mk3 are very similar, Mk3 being an up-armoured variant of Mk2 but the crewman there is definitely majority Mk2 plate.

Spoiler:

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Shadow Walker wrote:
Spartan looks great. Now show me Kratos.

As you wish.

**NightReconnaissance**

Gert wrote:
NightReconnaissance wrote:
Also confirms the rumour that it came with parts to make tank crew in MkIII armour. Same source for that also source of all the other release rumours.

I don't see how it confirms that rumour when that isn't Mk3. The helmet has a single vision slit, has the armour bond down the centre of the helm, and the gauntlets don't cover the wrist enough. Mk2 and Mk3 are very similar, Mk3 being an up-armoured variant of Mk2 but the crewman there is definitely majority Mk2 plate.

Spoiler:

The average person doesn't really know the difference between MKII and MKIII armour, the implication that there are leaks from from the printers who made up the promo material isn't really impacted by that. Guy saw a Marine helmet with a grill on it and said 'MKIII'. Neither would be expected given the lack of any MKII or MKIII marines at launch.

**Gert**

NightReconnaissance wrote:
The average person doesn't really know the difference between MKII and MKIII armour, the implication that there are leaks from from the printers who made up the promo material isn't really impacted by that. Guy saw a Marine helmet with a grill on it and said 'MKIII'. Neither would be expected given the lack of any MKII or MKIII marines at launch.

The average person wouldn't know the difference between any kind of power armour so I don't buy that as a defence. And there are Mk3 Marines at launch because they already exist.
I still don't believe that list is accurate and it is entirely down to the Starter Sets being so massively out of line with the other main lines.
Also, these are leaks from who? Printers who made the promo material? GW isn't doing flyers for HH 2.0 and WD (IIRC) doesn't include pricing for kits anymore. And if they were printing the material, would they not have got the name right for the Spartan as well i.e. Spartan Assault Tank and not Spartan Land Raider?