Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Plastic Land Raider Proteus - Roadmap Pg202

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**Voss**

Very nice.

Though the open door picture reminds me I have no idea where the crew sits in a land raider. Especially with the side hatches so far back, and then the engine.

**MeanGreenStompa**

Cylon-style single visor = MkII. my second favorite variety after MkV. Love this tank and as someone who's built a couple of resin Spartans, greatly looking forward to building a plastic one.

Now... give me plastic Storm Eagles and Fire Raptors!!!

**Kanluwen**

I just want plastic Thanatars and Thallax, and rules for them in 40k proper.

**Gert**

Much as I don't want to bring the discussion up again regarding Mk6 being too tall or whatever but:

Spoiler:

Those are the current Cataphractii models and unless the Spartan has been upscaled, them Marines are looking pretty normal height.

**H.B.M.C.**

Hmm... big plastic tank. Pretty cool. I guess my World Eaters can have one tank.

MeanGreenStompa wrote:
Now... give me plastic Storm Eagles and Fire Raptors!!!

Those might actually go together without the need for extensive heat bending, gap filling, and swearing.

**Galas**

Gert wrote:
Much as I don't want to bring the discussion up again regarding Mk6 being too tall or whatever but:

Spoiler:

Those are the current Cataphractii models and unless the Spartan has been upscaled, them Marines are looking pretty normal height.

Interesting. But is clear the proportions have changed to be more reasonable and less top heavy. So how did they do it, without making them bigger? Or is that just a trick of the photo? How much bigger were Cataphractii compared to old plastics?

**Gert**

The top of a plastic Mk3 Marine's backpack sits just a little bit lower than the Termi pad tops.
As for proportions, if you compare the resin Mk4 to the plastic, the plastics have thicker legs and ankles so they don't seem as spindly. Mk3 is harder to tell the difference because it's all just chunks of armour apart from the helms which have built-in eye lenses, unlike the resin Mk3.

**Wha-Mu-077**

I wonder if there'll be options for different marks of armour for the crew dude

**beast_gts**

Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
I wonder if there'll be options for different marks of armour for the crew dude

The rumour was MK 3 & 4 crew IIRC (but that goes out of the window if that guy is MK2...)

EDIT:

RazorEdge wrote:
Froim 4chan:

There will be also a set with different weapon options (in the same fashion like for Necromunda) which couldn't fit into the regulary Horus Heresy sprues.

Also a little correction about the rumor yesterday:

The Vehicle Sprues include options for MkIII and MkVI armours, not MkII...

**Mr_Rose**

TBH I would have thought MkII would be better for vehicle crew - more flexible in confined spaces and all that.

**RazorEdge**

As said earlier, the Cataphractii Terminators seems to be taller than the MkIV when the got released back in 2015 as noticed by me in an older WD featuring a Fallen Angels Army.

RazorEdge wrote:
Popped up on 4chan:

Spartan and Deimos Rhino based Vehicles will have options to build the Crew
with different armours (MkII and MkVI).

Those Compilation Books are a stop-gap for more Expansion releases with new
Unit options.

There exist plans for separate codex books for EVERY Space Marine Legion
which will released over the next years.

GW doesn't plan a 3 years Edition life time for Horus Heresy.

FW weapon packs for special and heavy weapons will sold regularly via the GW
main shop after the release of HH as a new main game.

This is another test run to sell FW stuff via GW.

They plan to release certain smaller model parts which can be produced fast
and with lesser risk of miscasts.

Seems like the rumor is original from faeit

The rumour said MkII armour option on the spartan.

Other wise it isn't relevant, the "source" said there is another Armour Mark to build the crew member and the leaked pictures never showed a crew member on the Spartan.

**FabricatorGeneralMike**

blood reaper wrote:
gorgon wrote:
Well, here comes the flood of nu-Heresy softies spoiled rotten by "easy track assembly" and associated "infrequent cursing and bleeding" and overall "less weight than a shot put".

If the kit didn't make you want to kill yourself, then you aren't a real Heresy Head.

I was the resin guy in our group. Those and fire rapters ugh feth them both. Same with warhound legs.

**Tamereth**

Spartan looks good. Getting excited for all the new plastic kits, just have reservations about the new rules.

**MeanGreenStompa**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
Hmm... big plastic tank. Pretty cool. I guess my World Eaters can have one tank.

MeanGreenStompa wrote:
Now... give me plastic Storm Eagles and Fire Raptors!!!
Those might actually to together without the need for extensive heat bending, gap filling, and swearing.

The only thing I despised building more was the 3 metal penitent engines I constructed as a yoof. I lost so much blood to those things.

**RazorEdge**

BTW; Comparison between the 2015 Terminators and the upcoming Mk6 Tactical Marines.

As earlier said the HH Terminators in plastic are already larger scaled. They're in scale with the newer Space Marine Sets.

**Kid_Kyoto**

gorgon wrote:
Well, here comes the flood of nu-Heresy softies spoiled rotten by "easy track assembly" and associated "infrequent cursing and bleeding" and overall "less weight than a shot put".

Pft.

If you didn't convert your Spartan from a Rhino and a Land Raider are you like, even a real gamer you $%^&ing casual.

**Midnightdeathblade**

It is 100% MKII. Argel Tal has the most recent sculpt of MKII that exists, and it has the same helmet design as the driver. Hopefully they do a full set within the year.

**GaroRobe**

Aren't Death Guard largely in MK 2 armor? I'm adding so 30k MK3 helmets to them, but I think the chaos ones have Mk 2

**Azreal13**

gorgon wrote:
Well, here comes the flood of nu-Heresy softies spoiled rotten by "easy track assembly" and associated "infrequent cursing and bleeding" and overall "less weight than a shot put".

I sidestepped the issue by using alternative tracks. But I ensured I preserved the suffering by using an aftermarket track set for a.. Tiger II I think it was. You know, one of those kits where all the links are supplied separately on sprues and you have to assemble it yourself one link at a time...

**Racerguy180**

I actually had no problems with the track on mine, it was the side plate that were fethed up.

Plastic would be really preferential to dealing with (even the revamped) spartan.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Kid_Kyoto wrote:
gorgon wrote:
Well, here comes the flood of nu-Heresy softies spoiled rotten by "easy track assembly" and associated "infrequent cursing and bleeding" and overall "less weight than a shot put".

Pft.

If you didn't convert your Spartan from a Rhino and a Land Raider are you like, even a real gamer you $%^&ing casual.

Wasn’t that the Claymore? I known I always got the Claymore and Spartan confused though.

**zedmeister**

Nah, that was the Spartan:

**Platuan4th**

I'm still upset the Spartan can't poop out Terminators as it moves like in Rogue Trader.

**GaroRobe**

Terminators manning guns? Early 40k was a lawless wasteland

**Irbis**

GaroRobe wrote:
Terminators manning guns? Early 40k was a lawless wasteland

And said gun was literally a single bolter, halving their firepower. Add to that thin armor plate that was literally useless besides obscuring gunner's sigh and the fact they somehow pressed trigger with power fists, and you got to wonder where 'verisimilitude' crowd was back then

**beast_gts**

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**Marshal Loss**

Spartan looks great, and pleased with how Cataphractii looks alongside the Mark VI. The plastic Tartaros is still disappointingly diminutive but at least Cata holds up well.

**zedmeister**

Reposting this from B&C. With thanks to poster Joe

Looking through the list of kits allegedly shifting from resin to plastic that've been mentioned over the last year or so on here and via reliable sources on Discord, we're currently looking at the following sooner rather than later;

Legiones Astartes
Legion Tactical Squad - Mark VI**
Legion Tactical Squad - Mark II***
Spartan Assault Tank**
Legion Sicaran Battle Tank*
Legion Kratos Battle Tank*
Contemptor-pattern Dreadnought**
Leviathan-pattern Dreadnought*
Deimos-pattern Rhino* (variants)
Castraferrum-pattern Dreadnought***
Caestus Assault Ram* (via FW staff)
Mechanicum
dual Ursarax/Thallax kit***
Thanatar Siege-Automata***
Domitar/Arlatax Battle-Automata***

* soft-confirmed
** hard-confirmed (box content)
*** rumoured

A few follow posts have concurred these rumours. But, as always, apply

**Kanluwen**

I've been wondering if Thallax were going to show up sooner rather than later, given the Skitarii change-up in 40k proper. Felt like they're de-eliting them in preparation for adding a larger Troop choice that wasn't a Servitor.

**RazorEdge**

I honestly hope for Assault, Light Support and Heavy Support Squads with alternative Poses for Marines in MkVI.