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I mean, I know the Spartan by itself is just gonna cost at the very least 50% more than a Land Raider, and maybe even twice.

 Azreal13 wrote:

JSG wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
£240 apparently.

So anywhere from AUD$550-$600 I'd say.

That's... no.

That's like a 40% discount on the individual kits.

So what you're saying is that they're leaving you with one testicle?

No, I'll keep the pair.

Yeah, I'm not buying that either ^^.

I may still buy a 10-man corvus squad, though.

 Albertorius wrote:
I mean, I know the Spartan by itself is just gonna cost at the very least 50% more than a Land Raider, and maybe even twice.

We were talking about the likely RRP the other night, and one buddy made the excellent suggestion that it'll be the same cost as the FW model, but spun as "but plastic."


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JSG wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:

JSG wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
£240 apparently.

So anywhere from AUD$550-$600 I'd say.

That's... no.

That's like a 40% discount on the individual kits.

So what you're saying is that they're leaving you with one testicle?

No, I'll keep the pair.

Yeah, I'm probably not buying it either, even though HH is probably the only way I'd be drawn back into a 40K system in the foreseeable.

I already decided against the box. and this reveal confirmed my decision was the right one. I'll just be buying them NuBeakies separately from ebay, and will get the books separately if I do decide to get into HH later.

All in all, I feel like HH is a scene I'm not going to be comfortable in, with my weird insistence of sticking mostly to RT era lore and all that. I'll just buy the minis and play oldhammer / KT21.

There's a cleaner photo doing the rounds:



EDIT: Chapter Master Valrak is claiming it's his.

Nice to see a clearer image

At current prices, and assuming no “new so of course it costs moar”?

40 Mk III Maureen’s will set you back £130. The 10 Termies £70
The now sold out “closest equivalent” Space Marine Heroes £32.50

Just there you’re really bloody nearly at £240. Like. £7.50 off.

With the Dread currently retailing at…well seems it no longer exists, but the other wee ones cost £36? Add in the rulebook (presuming it’s hardback and not the dinky version) and the Spartan, and the price could be worse.

Still one to seek a discount on of course.

Nice to see a clearer pic of the Contemptor. It looks infinitely better than the previous plastic one (even though I do actually quite like the last plastic one).

Contemptor will probably be tomorrow's Heresy Thursday highlight

 Azreal13 wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:
I mean, I know the Spartan by itself is just gonna cost at the very least 50% more than a Land Raider, and maybe even twice.

We were talking about the likely RRP the other night, and one buddy made the excellent suggestion that it'll be the same cost as the FW model, but spun as "but plastic."

That is indeed an excellent point.


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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
At current prices, and assuming no “new so of course it costs moar”?

I mean, we can 100% assume that will not be the case...

I'm assuming that 10 beakies will go for about the same as 10 intercessors. The dread might cost less than the prim dread. Might. Termies seem to be the same cataphract sprues already released, so I'm guessing they'll release them again... but I'm also sure they will raise the price.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
At current prices, and assuming no “new so of course it costs moar”?

40 Mk III Maureen’s will set you back £130.

A note on that, Mk.III price is outdated and cheaper than the current standard for a ten man squad box. You want to look at the price Chaos Marines or Primaris boxes, which in € is a difference of 5€ per box.

Assault Intercessors are a bit more than standard Intercessors, so let's assume the MK6 will be the same price as the latter (£36).

Cataphractii are currently £40, but let's be generous and assume they won't get a price hike with the reboxing (even though they probably will).

The Contemptor is going to be a bit of a weird one, because the FW versions weren't actually that much more expensive than the crappy plastic one. Let's assume it goes up to £42 to 'match' those.

The Praetors lets say £22 each, since they're new but still 'Firstborn'.

The Spartan is the tricky one to guesstimate since there isn't really anything in plastic to compare it to. The Baneblade is still bigger, but it's also around a decade old at this point. If we account for New Model Pricing it's not hard to imagine it being about the same price, so let's say £90.

In total that comes to spot on £400, not including the rulebook, templates, dice, etc which would probably bump it up to around £450ish.

Considering they touted that boxes like Indomitus and Dominion net you around double the savings of buying in individually, the box being priced around £225-£250 doesn't seem too far off.

 Arbitrator wrote:
The Praetors lets say £22 each, since they're new but still 'Firstborn'.

Fafnir Rann & Dominion Zephon were both £18.

Yep, thats probably a $400 box set right there easy. With the new Necroumnda box being 299 USD vs the UK price of 180 GBP, and the HH box being rumored at 240 GBP, I would be surprised if its anything less than $390.

Are those Cataphractii Terminators the same as the older ones?

 dan2026 wrote:
Are those Cataphractii Terminators the same as the older ones?

They are.

 zedmeister wrote:
Contemptor will probably be tomorrow's Heresy Thursday highlight

Which means that by the time of the HH section of their previews on the 7th, we'll have seen everything in the new box.

So much for the 'reveal'. Still, last time half the reveals were stuff we'd already seen, most of it officially.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Which means that by the time of the HH section of their previews on the 7th, we'll have seen everything in the new box.

So much for the 'reveal'. Still, last time half the reveals were stuff we'd already seen, most of it officially.

Yes because there couldn't possibly be anything else revealed for a new edition could there. No not at all.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 zedmeister wrote:
Contemptor will probably be tomorrow's Heresy Thursday highlight

Which means that by the time of the HH section of their previews on the 7th, we'll have seen everything in the new box.

So much for the 'reveal'. Still, last time half the reveals were stuff we'd already seen, most of it officially.

Yes, I fear that. But I hope for at least one more surprise, maybe even the Kratos tank

Wowee. That's going to be a chunky box!


Not sure if it's known yet, but do we have a price for the starter set?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 zedmeister wrote:
Contemptor will probably be tomorrow's Heresy Thursday highlight

Which means that by the time of the HH section of their previews on the 7th, we'll have seen everything in the new box.

So much for the 'reveal'. Still, last time half the reveals were stuff we'd already seen, most of it officially.

Both the 40k box and the AoS box had a small wave of (possibly easy build) kits that came out as part of the edition launch. I'd guess they'll handle Horus Heresy that way. Get the launch box contents out of the way before Wrhammer Fest because that stuff got leaked and anyway, follow up with supplemental kits that come a week or two after the launch box and show those off at Warhammer Fest, use the event to kick off rules previews that will run until the pre-order of the launch box, and then follow up with a preview of the starter box(es) after they got their launch box sales.

It's pretty much GW's standard right now.

WarCom Twitter posted this and confirmed the Contemptor will be previewing tomorrow:

WarCom wrote:Yes! That is the new boxed set for Warhammer: The Horus Heresy. It includes a whopping 40 Mark VI Space Marines, a plastic Spartan, and more. We'll have a closer look at the Contemptor Dreadnought tomorrow and even more to show off at Warhammer Fest

and even more to show off at Warhammer Fest

Hope is the first step on the road of dissapointment.

RazorEdge wrote:

and even more to show off at Warhammer Fest

Hope is the first step on the road of dissapointment.

Yep. I'd go with either a smaller starter box, or the new tank / Legion upgrade kits.

beast_gts wrote:

RazorEdge wrote:

and even more to show off at Warhammer Fest

Hope is the first step on the road of dissapointment.

Yep. I'd go with either a smaller starter box, or the new tank / Legion upgrade kits.

You're giving them too much credit.

The "more" will just be the stuff that's in the box they didn't list in their comment.

RazorEdge wrote:

and even more to show off at Warhammer Fest

Hope is the first step on the road of dissapointment.

I'm guessing separate rulebook, dice, and cards.

If they show off any more models, they might be separated boxes for the things in this box.

I'm guessing the kind of things we will see at warhammer fest will be:
-Add on packs to add special weapons (which previously would have been included in the set itself)
-Add on packs for legion specific bits
-Dice + reaction cards
-Forge world add ons for vehicles, for things like different contemptor weapons
-Relaunched forge world stuff

Despite the hefty price tag, the more I look at the content the more I’m thinking this is definitely going to find its market.

As a “one purchase and you’ve got the majority if not all you need to get started” deal, it doesn’t seem awful value - if your pockets are deep enough.

Yes you will most definitely spend more in the future. But as a starting point it’s pretty solid.

And I think we can make an argument the contents are ubiquitous and appealing enough for people already knees deep in the Heresy, either to add options to an existing force, or to start a new Legion.

Arguable counter point? Despite the set being pretty decent value (especially compared to preceding FW prices), the fact the price is still high enough to put it out of reach of folk.

Consider. Whilst by no means wealthy, I’m on a decent enough salary, with no kids and few enough month to month financial commitments that I could buy this. But. £240, even discounted, is still a pretty decent chunk of money. To buy it, would be to give up other potential luxury spends (such as wall art for my new place, new furniture, new washing machine*, plus days/evenings out. And so I for one am thinking thrice. If I was a more diligent painter (as in I could be arsed to paint at all) then sure, a set that size is at least a month’s fun of building and painting.

*I do consider a washing machine to ultimately be a luxury. I’m not above going to the laundrette to scrub my skivvies. Then again, I already own a tumble dryer, so seems daft to involve walking back with a bag of soggy togs, when I can just cough up a couple of hundred or so on a decent new machine.