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Hm... kinda "meh" on the Kratos, actually... it just feels like a small Fellblade/fat sicaran, and I never felt there was a need of something in between.

Really hope that's a handheld rotor cannon and not an assault cannon.

 Gert wrote:
Really hope that's a handheld rotor cannon and not an assault cannon.

It looks like the one before the current Proteus pattern (but with a box mag rather than a belt).

The Iliastus? That's what concerns me. Only the Blood Angels and Fists had them and it's not like armour patterns or vehicles that were in widespread production across various Forge Worlds as these were only made in the Sol System on the Iliastus Satellite by the Dyzanique who were loyal to the Emperor.

No - rotor cannon:



But the barrels in the blurry photo don't look as long.

It looks like the current Iliastus AC from FW, which is my point. If the AC is now a generic weapon I'll be disappointed because it really shouldn't be.

Proto-Reaper Chaincannon

tneva82 wrote:
Well the battles reqular players do aren't exactly grand in scale to begin with. Guess somebody out there plays 100k a side but not many

If only there was a game out there for truly EPIC battles, something that would allow for the EPIC scale of the Heresy.

That would be EPIC.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Well the battles reqular players do aren't exactly grand in scale to begin with. Guess somebody out there plays 100k a side but not many

If only there was a game out there for truly EPIC battles, something that would allow for the EPIC scale of the Heresy.

That would be EPIC.

Epic indeed ^^

 Albertorius wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Well the battles reqular players do aren't exactly grand in scale to begin with. Guess somebody out there plays 100k a side but not many

If only there was a game out there for truly EPIC battles, something that would allow for the EPIC scale of the Heresy.

That would be EPIC.

Epic indeed ^^

Never going to happen again. Better look for 3rd company´s products for that regard.

Do you think taunting the Law of Absolutes will make it happen? I'm rather on board for that.

Ooooooooohhhhhhhhhhh plastic Spartan, and that Kratos looks legit awesome.

Me likey.

And they literally promised us EPIC reveals for this Warhammer Fest, remember?

Kratos. Is. Beautiful.


Definitely adding to my XXth. Likely in numbers for an armoured spearhead option.

Glorious.

 Strg Alt wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Well the battles reqular players do aren't exactly grand in scale to begin with. Guess somebody out there plays 100k a side but not many

If only there was a game out there for truly EPIC battles, something that would allow for the EPIC scale of the Heresy.

That would be EPIC.

Epic indeed ^^

Never going to happen again. Better look for 3rd company´s products for that regard.

Oh, I don't need to look anymore



And taking into account what GW likes to do nowadays with their rulesets (just take a look at Bookcromunda), I'm very happy with Epic 40k 3rd edition, thankyouverymuch

Very nice vehicles, the sicaran especially

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Well the battles reqular players do aren't exactly grand in scale to begin with. Guess somebody out there plays 100k a side but not many

If only there was a game out there for truly EPIC battles, something that would allow for the EPIC scale of the Heresy.

That would be EPIC.

Perhaps such an epic game, if taking place during the Horus Heresy, could be named after the WARMASTER himself? Or named for all of the MEN OF WAR taking part?

I'll see myself out.

Not a fan of the kratos, just looks like an ugly sicaran, plastic rhino/sicaran is a great though.

I disagree actually, I think it looks like a Predator's more menacing older brother.

I can actually see me adding one to my motor pool of "HH era vehicles that'll never see play, I just like to paint a feth off big tank once in a while" collection, and that's genuinely the first GW thing I've seen in a while I will almost certainly buy at some point.

beast_gts wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
I hope it will get 40K rules too.

Wasn't there a rumour that 30k & 40k kits will be 'locked' to those games only (which is why the plastic box Castraferrum dreadnoughts & Indomitus terminators have been dropped from 30k)?

I heard that too! I've heard that first born marines will be going away to being HH only models. The primaris have won the war and have become the new 40K marines.

boyd wrote:

beast_gts wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
I hope it will get 40K rules too.

Wasn't there a rumour that 30k & 40k kits will be 'locked' to those games only (which is why the plastic box Castraferrum dreadnoughts & Indomitus terminators have been dropped from 30k)?

I heard that too! I've heard that first born marines will be going away to being HH only models. The primaris have won the war and have become the new 40K marines.

Makes sense. GW definitely wants to turn away extra money from their primary player base.
They wouldn't want 40k players buying these marines, because... uh... yeah.

Yeah, I was really trying to turn that into a joke, but that rumor is just too dumb to sustain.

Voss wrote:

boyd wrote:

beast_gts wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
I hope it will get 40K rules too.

Wasn't there a rumour that 30k & 40k kits will be 'locked' to those games only (which is why the plastic box Castraferrum dreadnoughts & Indomitus terminators have been dropped from 30k)?

I heard that too! I've heard that first born marines will be going away to being HH only models. The primaris have won the war and have become the new 40K marines.

Makes sense. GW definitely wants to turn away extra money from their primary player base.
They wouldn't want 40k players buying these marines, because... uh... yeah.

Yeah, I was really trying to turn that into a joke, but that rumor is just too dumb to sustain.

There is of course the chance what they think they can do is get people to buy two marine armies instead of one.

Voss wrote:
Yeah, I was really trying to turn that into a joke, but that rumor is just too dumb to sustain.

The 'logic' behind the rumour is that profits from 40k and 30k will be separate, and GW doesn't want a Specialist Game eating into the profits of it's main game - which is just about dumb enough to be believable.

Thanks, Destrado and I don't know what the hell your problem is, JSG, I was literally asking if I was missing something in my reception of the sword, not rejecting it out of hand, and wasn't making a realism argument, I think it looks ugly and silly.

 blood reaper wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
The Kratos?

Looks expensive.

Yep.

More pics,

PLEASE, DO NOT OPEN IF YOU NEED TO ONLY SEE THIS AT A GW SPONSORED EVENT!

Spoiler:

My day is ruined. Thanks.

 GrosseSax wrote:

 blood reaper wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
The Kratos?

Looks expensive.

Yep.

More pics,

PLEASE, DO NOT OPEN IF YOU NEED TO ONLY SEE THIS AT A GW SPONSORED EVENT!

Spoiler:

My day is ruined. Thanks.

Good.

 Dawnbringer wrote:

Voss wrote:

boyd wrote:

beast_gts wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
I hope it will get 40K rules too.

Wasn't there a rumour that 30k & 40k kits will be 'locked' to those games only (which is why the plastic box Castraferrum dreadnoughts & Indomitus terminators have been dropped from 30k)?

I heard that too! I've heard that first born marines will be going away to being HH only models. The primaris have won the war and have become the new 40K marines.

Makes sense. GW definitely wants to turn away extra money from their primary player base.
They wouldn't want 40k players buying these marines, because... uh... yeah.

Yeah, I was really trying to turn that into a joke, but that rumor is just too dumb to sustain.

There is of course the chance what they think they can do is get people to buy two marine armies instead of one.

Three. They're already doing that in 40k itself, though some customers are doubling down on one or other, but that isn't a bad outcome for GW either. Four if you count chaos. And some people have long done that with the various marine subfactions, where they had/have two or three distinct armies of red marines, blue marines and green marines.

Which is the point, really. Some people get really caught up in who releases are 'for' (especially for start collecting boxes), but the reality is GW just wants to sell them and doesn't care who buys them or what happens next (beyond that they'd also like to sell glue, brushes and paints). That they'd somehow artificially stop people from using marines as marines in different games... its too much the old 'come to your house and stop you playing it wrong' joke.

 Dawnbringer wrote:
There is of course the chance what they think they can do is get people to buy two marine armies instead of one.

Most HH players already played 40k. Guess which armies people in our group played before jumping to HH.

Here's me, with careful modelling and the addition of an odd unit here or there, trying to build a traitor army that'd pull double duty as a CSM 40K army.

Feel free to point and laugh at the stupid old fool everyone.

Silly rabbit.

 Azreal13 wrote:
Here's me, with careful modelling and the addition of an odd unit here or there, trying to build a traitor army that'd pull double duty as a CSM 40K army.

I'm doing the same with my Iron Hands - I like the Sabre & Arquitor but the lack of 40k rules has stopped me buying them.