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Having carved the undercuts for countless badly cast plastic studded shoulder pads I definitely welcome the two part construction. They look much better and getting rid of the seam is not a huge deal.
jojo_monkey_boy wrote: Just do what everyone else seems to be doing and buy tortuga marines
The new MK6 also sound like they have some irritating design decisions, like splitting the studded shoulder pads into two pieces that join down the middle. I'm sure that will be an absolute blast to assemble with no visible seam and a smooth finish.
I'm not sure exactly where you're getting that second part from considering the MkVI kit doesn't have any indication for that being true. The Zephon model does have that but there's no sign of a split on the regular kit.
Crimson wrote: I'm a bit disappointed how small and dainty the beakies look. I was hoping a bit more bulk. Has there been any pics of the sprues?
Also the tanks look great, but there is no Predator?
Well some of us care being true to scale and fluff. Guess you could make them wider(fat marines?) But much taller than that and they approach primaris size. To maintain marines at 7 feet entire primaris and custodes line would need to be redone.
RobertDD wrote: I think many here are missing how incredibly easy it is to brush a seam like that away with the right plastic glue. I use “Same Stuff” from Micro-Mark. You just brush glue across the gap, at a 90 degree angle to the seam, until the seam is gone.
Sure, because for most of us, this is our first rodeo.[/s]
I think some people have different definitions of "completely invisible"
I do agree with the notion of “different definitions”, when people say that Apple Barrel paints are “just as good” as citadel paints, or when people claim that a decent, cheap brush is “just as good” as a Winsor Newton #7. But I’m pretty critical, and when I say “completely invisible” I really mean “completely invisible”. I fix the sides of Necron Warriors (the part under the arms) using this same technique, and, when done right, that seam also completely disappears. Shades will not find a ridge to darken, drybrushing will not highlight an edge. The surface becomes one smooth curve. Before priming the glue covered surface looks distinctly different from the unglued areas, but that difference disappears under a (thin!) coat of primer.
Time will tell if the fit of the parts is good enough to apply this technique, or if a filler is needed, which is far more involved. I see no reason to assume that the parts will fit sub-optimally. Recent GW kits have been pretty spot on. The one exception for me has been the large center seams on the primaris bikes from Indomitus. Those I found very hard to adequately disappear, although I managed (mostly) with a combination of fillers (I think I used Vallejo plastic putty), this technique, and scraping and sanding. I don’t think we will need to sand and scrape in these seams, but if we do, that’s going to be really tough with those rivets in the way.
As to the “first rodeo” comment: there’s always more to learn in this hobby, evidenced by the “different definitions” comment.
Crimson wrote: I'm a bit disappointed how small and dainty the beakies look. I was hoping a bit more bulk. Has there been any pics of the sprues?
Also the tanks look great, but there is no Predator?
Well some of us care being true to scale and fluff. Guess you could make them wider(fat marines?) But much taller than that and they approach primaris size. To maintain marines at 7 feet entire primaris and custodes line would need to be redone.
Except like I have told you about nine thousand times and you ignore it every time: compared to GWs normal humans, Primaris models are actually scaled to be roughly seven feet tall. That's the maths. Also, IIRC there still is no indication what the exact height of Primaris or Custodes is supposed to be in the fluff. For all we know, they can be two inches taller than normal marines. (Some people say they're eight feet tall, though I don't think that there is any official source for that. This would mean the models should be ogryn sized to be properly scaled to be eight feet tall compared to normal human models.)
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lord_blackfang wrote: Anyway we all love doing some mandatory tedious cleanup on a prominently visible part of every mini in a horde army.
I mean you need to clean up the mould lines anyway...
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l0k1 wrote: So general question, a local shop has a sealed copy of Betrayal at Calth for $300. Another shop I was told has either Betrayal at Calth or Prospero Burns(couldn't tell me for sure). Is it worth picking 1 or both of these up, or just waiting for the new box set?
I'd hold off, but that's just my opinion based on the Mk VI being much better proportioned. I don't think the prev. armor marks will look great with them.
Unless you want to actually play the board game. Which I highly recommend (certainly BaC); it’s such a shame so few people actually did that.
As well, if you mix the armor a bit for an army using salvaged parts it wouldn't look bad. Certainly the legs on the new guys are better done of course.
Easier to scrape off the beak than across the multiple contours of the ‘ears’. Shudder.
Stormonu wrote: For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
The parts and their arrangement on in the mould are most likely done by computer optimization for best material flow-through and volume fill.
The helmets im not too fussed about. How the bolter arms work with the various heavy weapons on which particular pose is what I'm more concerned about.
For those who have criticisms of the new beakies (mild in my case), here's some good news. At least he's not an exact representation of the upcoming White Dwarf cover marine who apparently failed his Tzeentch fun house mirror save. Wow.
Spoiler:
That's some warp fueled depth of field and mutant proportions there.
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Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote: This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote: You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something...
Thanks. I didn't know as I stopped following codex churn once I realized that every two years wasn't the anomaly but rather the goal. I figured it was new art.
The helmets seem perfectly appropiate, and as said above, the mold lines will probably be easier to scrape off.
The biggest issue I have with the beakie sprue is that it seems to be very, very limited in both options and poseability.
But for the apparent price of the big set I can stomach it: after all, my main interest for them is to use them to make a "battle for the farm" RT set. I already have located classic looking orks for that, too
The rest will find a place in my IWs.
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TalonZahn wrote: I'm more curious why The Lion and Curze are absent from all photos posted by many sources from the HH weekender.....
Was there like a photo of all the Primarchs together and those 2 missing? Otherwise I’m not sure why it would be significant. I’ve not seen many photos of anything apart from the box contents.
I'd bet quite heavily on there being some more plastic Primarchs appearing in the not too distant future. We have after all, conveniently, just recently seen the last of the resin releases.
That Beakycheese pic set was pure gold, thanks for the share!
I don't actually mind the moldline in the middle of the helmet. It'll make painting halved colourschemes and classic RT-style "helmet lines" easier. And like already stated, cleaning it up will be much easier than the old plastic kits, which had the mold line going across the horizontal axis. The resin helmets are again superior in this regard, barely any moldlines on those.
"The larger point though, is that as players, we have more control over what the game looks and feels like than most of us are willing to use in order to solve our own problems"
JWBS wrote: I'd bet quite heavily on there being some more plastic Primarchs appearing in the not too distant future. We have after all, conveniently, just recently seen the last of the resin releases.
Not of (30k) Lion or Curze though. Angron and at some point Fulgrim, sure.
TalonZahn wrote: I'm more curious why The Lion and Curze are absent from all photos posted by many sources from the HH weekender.....
Was there like a photo of all the Primarchs together and those 2 missing? Otherwise I’m not sure why it would be significant. I’ve not seen many photos of anything apart from the box contents.
Lots of stuff on Instagram, and some feeds like Siege Studios and even WarCom have taken pictures of all the cases, and every Primarch except those 2 have been individually pictured and they aren't even in the background of anything.
TalonZahn wrote: I'm more curious why The Lion and Curze are absent from all photos posted by many sources from the HH weekender.....
Was there like a photo of all the Primarchs together and those 2 missing? Otherwise I’m not sure why it would be significant. I’ve not seen many photos of anything apart from the box contents.
Lots of stuff on Instagram, and some feeds like Siege Studios and even WarCom have taken pictures of all the cases, and every Primarch except those 2 have been individually pictured and they aren't even in the background of anything.
Ah okay. I’m not sure that it would mean anything major, might just be being photographed for a white dwarf article or something. Where are the WarCom photos?
Well I do like these Mk6 marines but I just wish that there is an option for other helmets then just beakie or nonstudded shoulder pad as I can imagine some legions having them and others not.
