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Oh no, this is terrible! He was one of my favorite players, although I admit I'm not a huge basketball fan. 41 is way too young to die for sure.
My armies (re-counted and updated on 11/7/24, including modeled wargear options):
Dark Angels: ~16000 Astra Militarum: ~1200 | Imperial Knights: ~2300 | Leagues of Votann: ~1300 | Tyranids: ~3400 | Stormcast Eternals: ~5000 | Kruleboyz: ~3500 | Lumineth Realm-Lords: ~700
Check out my P&M Blogs: ZergSmasher's P&M Blog | Imperial Knights blog | Board Games blog | Total models painted in 2024: 40 | Total models painted in 2025: 25 | Current main painting project: Tomb Kings
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timetowaste85 wrote: On the radio station as well. Seems his daughter was with him.
Yeah, learning that, I think, is the worst part. Leaving behind the wife and the remaining kids (from what I've been seeing, it was only the 1 kid with him) has got to be rough.
So...Kobe demanded the flight happen despite air control grounding flights. He’s responsible for all those deaths. And he gets a free pass to the hall of fame post-mortem for it. Sigh. I think a lot of people forgot he was a rapist, and now he’s a murderer too; and he gets remembered in the NBA hall of fame. Jeez.
Reality is a nice place to visit, but I'd hate to live there.
Manchu wrote:I'm a Catholic. We eat our God.
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Do you have a source for that? I'm not seeing anything saying he pressured the pilot to fly in bad weather, only the opposite (from a regular pilot who flew him until 2017):
Deetz said he often flew Bryant to games at Staples Center, and never remembered Bryant or his assistants pressing him to fly in bad weather.
"There was never any pressure Kobe put on any pilot to get somewhere -- never, never," Deetz said. "I think he really understood professionalism. 'You do your job. I trust you.'"
RiTides wrote: Do you have a source for that? I'm not seeing anything saying he pressured the pilot to fly in bad weather, only the opposite (from a regular pilot who flew him until 2017):
What I'd seen was that one of California's famous "marine layers" blew in, so its likely they could've taken off in decent weather, and been caught out in a bad situation.
Radio 4 fan here. Really the passing of a legend. He's been hosting Just a Minute for about the same time as I've been alive! He'll be missed. 'Not just here....but around the world!'
RiTides wrote: Do you have a source for that? I'm not seeing anything saying he pressured the pilot to fly in bad weather, only the opposite (from a regular pilot who flew him until 2017):
Deetz said he often flew Bryant to games at Staples Center, and never remembered Bryant or his assistants pressing him to fly in bad weather.
"There was never any pressure Kobe put on any pilot to get somewhere -- never, never," Deetz said. "I think he really understood professionalism. 'You do your job. I trust you.'"
Really sad about him and his daughter, along with the other families on board
Sadly, the source is "television news" playing the black box recording (which has now gone "missing"). The black box had Kobe clearly saying "take off anyway": they're in cover-up mode, getting his old pilot in speaking SPECIFICALLY that he didn't pressure people (very quickly thrown in after the news of the black box was leaked and pulled). They're also dropping all the rape charges that had been laid against him from years before that hadn't been finalized. Basically...guy gets away with rape, forces this pilot to go, chopper goes down and everything gets swept under the rug so the NBA can have a posthumous hero. I feel bad for his daughter and the others who were on the chopper.
So no...I didn't record the TV news article and they've quickly removed it. So you can call it "conspiracy theory" if you want, because I have no way to back it up. But it's the kind of thing that money covers up quickly.
Reality is a nice place to visit, but I'd hate to live there.
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I'm fairly certain I'd read that the 'Kobe Helicopter' in question did not have a flight recorder or a cockpit voice recorder, so, I'd question your news source a bit on that one.
Alpharius wrote: I'm fairly certain I'd read that the 'Kobe Helicopter' in question did not have a flight recorder or a cockpit voice recorder, so, I'd question your news source a bit on that one.
That’s certainly easier than believing Kobe Bryant was the kind of person who put satisfying his impulsive wants above the well-being of others.
I think a good rule of thumb would be that if a source of news you follow has you publicly posting some ridiculous nonsense that embarrasses you when it turns out to be ridiculous nonsense, you should re-evaluate your source of news - specifically consider what level of contempt they view their target audience with, and if you are comfortable falling into that demographic.
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lord_blackfang wrote: Respect to the guy who subscribed just to post a massive ASCII dong in the chat and immediately get banned.
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It certainly most likely that a vehicle that is not legally required to have a recording device will not (for reasons of profit) have that device. And therefore it is easier to believe.
103 adds up to a good run. For some though, it can be truly epic.
RIP Kirk Douglas.
I am Spartacus!
Of all the races of the universe the Squats have the longest memories and the shortest tempers. They are uncouth, unpredictably violent, and frequently drunk. Overall, I'm glad they're on our side!
Office of Naval Intelligence Research discovers 3 out of 4 sailors make up 75% of U.S. Navy.
"Madness is like gravity... All you need is a little push."
I just heard about this earlier today. Pretty sad, but like you said 103 is a good long life. My personal favorite Kirk Douglas role is still Ned Land in 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea.
My armies (re-counted and updated on 11/7/24, including modeled wargear options):
Dark Angels: ~16000 Astra Militarum: ~1200 | Imperial Knights: ~2300 | Leagues of Votann: ~1300 | Tyranids: ~3400 | Stormcast Eternals: ~5000 | Kruleboyz: ~3500 | Lumineth Realm-Lords: ~700
Check out my P&M Blogs: ZergSmasher's P&M Blog | Imperial Knights blog | Board Games blog | Total models painted in 2024: 40 | Total models painted in 2025: 25 | Current main painting project: Tomb Kings
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: You need your bumps felt. With a patented, Grotsnik Corp Bump Feelerer 9,000.
The Grotsnik Corp Bump Feelerer 9,000. It only looks like several bricks crudely gaffer taped to a cricket bat.
Grotsnik Corp. Sorry, No Refunds.
Missed one a couple days ago.
Orson Bean Known for Dr Quinn, as well as the voice of Bilbo Baggins in the Rankin/Bass version of The Hobbit.
Also, Robert Conrad of Wild, Wild West and Black Sheep Squadron.
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Of all the races of the universe the Squats have the longest memories and the shortest tempers. They are uncouth, unpredictably violent, and frequently drunk. Overall, I'm glad they're on our side!
Office of Naval Intelligence Research discovers 3 out of 4 sailors make up 75% of U.S. Navy.
"Madness is like gravity... All you need is a little push."
"February 19, 2020: The Passing Of RPG Legend Scott Palter
Scott Palter, best known for his studio West End Games, passed away on Monday, February 17. Many knew him as a legend of the roleplaying and wargame world, producing seminal titles such as Star Wars: The Roleplaying Game and the DC Universe Roleplaying Game. Growing up in the 90s, West End's Star Wars lines of RPG and miniature products were a constant source of inspiration; I wanted squads and squads of Stormtroopers to put on a home-made Endor map.
Scott will be missed by many, and his impact on the gaming community will be remembered. Here's an interview with Scott in Pyramid from way back in 1999, concerning the "new West End Games" heading into the new millennium.
-- Hunter Shelburne"
Of all the races of the universe the Squats have the longest memories and the shortest tempers. They are uncouth, unpredictably violent, and frequently drunk. Overall, I'm glad they're on our side!
Office of Naval Intelligence Research discovers 3 out of 4 sailors make up 75% of U.S. Navy.
"Madness is like gravity... All you need is a little push."
"Through the darkness of future past, the magician longs to see.
One chants out between two worlds: Fire, walk with me." - Twin Peaks
"You listen to me. While I will admit to a certain cynicism, the fact is that I am a naysayer and hatchetman in the fight against violence. I pride myself in taking a punch and I'll gladly take another because I choose to live my life in the company of Gandhi and King. My concerns are global. I reject absolutely revenge, aggression, and retaliation. The foundation of such a method... is love. I love you Sheriff Truman." - Twin Peaks
My intro to Max....
From The Seventh Seal. Challenging Death to a game of Chess.
Of all the races of the universe the Squats have the longest memories and the shortest tempers. They are uncouth, unpredictably violent, and frequently drunk. Overall, I'm glad they're on our side!
Office of Naval Intelligence Research discovers 3 out of 4 sailors make up 75% of U.S. Navy.
"Madness is like gravity... All you need is a little push."
~16000 Astra Militarum: 
~1200 | Imperial Knights: 
~2300 | Leagues of Votann: 
~1300 | Tyranids: 
~3400 | Stormcast Eternals: 
~5000 | Kruleboyz: 
~3500 | Lumineth Realm-Lords: 
~700
