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Not Online!!! wrote:

 Apple Peel wrote:

Racerguy180 wrote:

 Apple Peel wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
The story was like a poorly written fan-fic. How many times did I read the word "score"? Why was every numerical represented in 20s?

After the short story there was an article about a change in the Ork attacks, apparently there was a new purpose, savagery and intelligence in them. So why was the short story the same old "Orks throw themselves idiotically at defences while no-name Marines, and even Serfs, dispatch them with ease"? The only strength of these *super-duper, psychically awakened Orks with tactics and everything guys, for reals this time!* is that they have unlimited numbers? Really? Lame.

At least we're getting a new Ghazzy model.

Out of 2,618 words, you read “score” or the variation “scores” a total of four times. Cry about it.

that's 4 too many


SARCASM!

I’ll admit, the author wrote them somewhat close together in the story, so perhaps someone overly critical of a free story about super space men fighting monsters might harp about it, but the story seems fine for what I expected.

Seems aae has a Score to settle.



I'll See myself out.

Good lord. Thank god this comment made Apple Peel and Racer's trolly comments almost worth it.

The story was not great and probably worth the price.

I reckon you didn't like it because the Orks weren't the protagonists.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I reckon you didn't like it because the Orks weren't the protagonists.

You're wrong. I didn't like it because it was poorly written and forgettable.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:

 Apple Peel wrote:

Racerguy180 wrote:

 Apple Peel wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
The story was like a poorly written fan-fic. How many times did I read the word "score"? Why was every numerical represented in 20s?

After the short story there was an article about a change in the Ork attacks, apparently there was a new purpose, savagery and intelligence in them. So why was the short story the same old "Orks throw themselves idiotically at defences while no-name Marines, and even Serfs, dispatch them with ease"? The only strength of these *super-duper, psychically awakened Orks with tactics and everything guys, for reals this time!* is that they have unlimited numbers? Really? Lame.

At least we're getting a new Ghazzy model.

Out of 2,618 words, you read “score” or the variation “scores” a total of four times. Cry about it.

that's 4 too many


SARCASM!

I’ll admit, the author wrote them somewhat close together in the story, so perhaps someone overly critical of a free story about super space men fighting monsters might harp about it, but the story seems fine for what I expected.

Seems aae has a Score to settle.



I'll See myself out.

Good lord. Thank god this comment made Apple Peel and Racer's trolly comments almost worth it.

The story was not great and probably worth the price.

Not everything critical of an opinion is “trolly.” I copied and pasted all the words from the story into a word counter and also counted “score” and “scores.” The two words totaled at four. It’s a free advertising piece. If you bothered to read it, it achieved some value that GW could at least redeem in advertising through your derision. It caused me to look at the article twice more in order to tabulate word count and total of “score(s).”
Negative publicity is still publicity, and you fell for it.

 Apple Peel wrote:

Not everything critical of an opinion is “trolly.” I copied and pasted all the words from the story into a word counter and also counted “score” and “scores.” The two words totaled at four. It’s a free advertising piece. If you bothered to read it, it achieved some value that GW could at least redeem in advertising through your derision. It caused me to look at the article twice more in order to tabulate word count and total of “score(s).”
Negative publicity is still publicity, and you fell for it.

Just as planned eh? To be honest I wouldn't have read the whole thing had people not said how bad it was on here so I suppose you're vaguely correct?

I'm all for GW publicising the game more. In the same breath I call a spade a spade, a duck a duck and a gak story a gak story. This was not a duck.

I thought it was pretty lame.. And I don't care about either orks or space marines.

The greater good stuff was better IMO and I care for neither GSC IG or TAU or DG..

I wonder if you could program an AI to auto-write bolterporn fanfic at this point.

Space Marine Captain [generate name] lifted his [ref-list Melee Weapons] and waved it in the air. "Fight on, battle brothers! The [chapter name]s shall not fall!"

The endless horde of [enemy faction] ran at the space marines. They shot them with [ref-list Ranged Weapons]. Great shells of [space marine vehicle] explodinated their enemies.

One [enemy faction] got close to [generate name.] He swung his great [melee weapon] and killed it super dead.

"Yeah! We are so great! Our great chapter is so greatly great!" Brother captain intoned manfully.

[Ref-list latest primaris unit] was also definitely super great, and there in the battle. They used their [special name weapon that that unit can only be built with] and they did kill scores of those guys.

the_scotsman wrote:
I wonder if you could program an AI to auto-write bolterporn fanfic at this point.

Space Marine Captain [generate name] lifted his [ref-list Melee Weapons] and waved it in the air. "Fight on, battle brothers! The [chapter name]s shall not fall!"

The endless horde of [enemy faction] ran at the space marines. They shot them with [ref-list Ranged Weapons]. Great shells of [space marine vehicle] explodinated their enemies.

One [enemy faction] got close to [generate name.] He swung his great [melee weapon] and killed it super dead.

"Yeah! We are so great! Our great chapter is so greatly great!" Brother captain intoned manfully.

[Ref-list latest primaris unit] was also definitely super great, and there in the battle. They used their [special name weapon that that unit can only be built with] and they did kill scores of those guys.

Last week a some anon on 4chan was championing his progress, however he appeared to use it as more of a roleplaying tool. From the bits I read, it was pretty up to snuff aside from then occasional curveball that doesn’t work with the setting.

the_scotsman wrote:
I wonder if you could program an AI to auto-write bolterporn fanfic at this point.

Space Marine Captain [generate name] lifted his [ref-list Melee Weapons] and waved it in the air. "Fight on, battle brothers! The [chapter name]s shall not fall!"

The endless horde of [enemy faction] ran at the space marines. They shot them with [ref-list Ranged Weapons]. Great shells of [space marine vehicle] explodinated their enemies.

One [enemy faction] got close to [generate name.] He swung his great [melee weapon] and killed it super dead.

"Yeah! We are so great! Our great chapter is so greatly great!" Brother captain intoned manfully.

[Ref-list latest primaris unit] was also definitely super great, and there in the battle. They used their [special name weapon that that unit can only be built with] and they did kill scores of those guys.

At no point does anyone say that the emperor will protect.. I think this would be a failed exercise.

I just love how gloriously little effort it would take to exchange the orks in that story for another bad guy faction. There are so few descriptions of the orks, what theyre doing or how theyre trying to do it. I could write the same story about Tyranids, Genestealer Cultists, Ultramarines Animated Series level Black Legion marines, Daemons or maybe Drukhari by changing less than 50 or so words.

Theyre wearing yellow, theyve got rockets, they had a ladder, and the one had a lump of iron sword. Oh, and he was big. Thats what we know about the orks.

the_scotsman wrote:
I wonder if you could program an AI to auto-write bolterporn fanfic at this point.

Space Marine Captain [generate name] lifted his [ref-list Melee Weapons] and waved it in the air. "Fight on, battle brothers! The [chapter name]s shall not fall!"

The endless horde of [enemy faction] ran at the space marines. They shot them with [ref-list Ranged Weapons]. Great shells of [space marine vehicle] explodinated their enemies.

One [enemy faction] got close to [generate name.] He swung his great [melee weapon] and killed it super dead.

"Yeah! We are so great! Our great chapter is so greatly great!" Brother captain intoned manfully.

[Ref-list latest primaris unit] was also definitely super great, and there in the battle. They used their [special name weapon that that unit can only be built with] and they did kill scores of those guys.

Beautiful. Shear poetry.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Look, you guys either say there's too much focus on the Founding Chapters or nobody Chapters take up space. You can't be saying both at the same time.

You can absolutely say both - "there's too much focus on Marines full stop."

It would be nice to have an 'on camera' death of one of these marines as they suffer a crushing defeat for a change, it's not like they're even a popular Chapter. If GW aren't going to do it for the bloody Noir Kitties, there's no fething chance they do it for the main players. Which is a waste.

That's entirely different as a complaint.

Apparently liking the story was wrong.

I apologise for my temerity. I'll do my best to not like things related to Marines in the future.

I liked the story.
I couldn't help but laugh when the marine got angry about the orks building a ladder from his precious trees though.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Apparently liking the story was wrong.

I apologise for my temerity. I'll do my best to not like things related to Marines in the future.

It's DakkaDakka, some people just come here to complain. Hell I've yet to read a single post from some of the regulars here that's positive.

I fully expect this release to conclude with space wolves getting a few of their old relics from past editions converted, some of the Marine codex strats, the Phobos updates and a names list.

Meanwhile I expect Orks to get a new character, new strats etc, a ton of new things they need, but all we'll hear is complaints from Ork players that space wolves got more, even though 99% of their content is a reprint and complaints from space wolf players that all they got was reprints.

BrianDavion wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Apparently liking the story was wrong.

I apologise for my temerity. I'll do my best to not like things related to Marines in the future.

It's DakkaDakka, some people just come here to complain. Hell I've yet to read a single post from some of the regulars here that's positive.

I fully expect this release to conclude with space wolves getting a few of their old relics from past editions converted, some of the Marine codex strats, the Phobos updates and a names list.

Meanwhile I expect Orks to get a new character, new strats etc, a ton of new things they need, but all we'll hear is complaints from Ork players that space wolves got more, even though 99% of their content is a reprint and complaints from space wolf players that all they got was reprints.

Your obvious marine bias is starting to rear it's ugly head again.

There's nothing wrong with liking the story, if that's your sort of thing just as there's nothing wrong with disliking the story. Just because someone dislikes the story, it doesn't mean they 'only like Ork protagonist stories' or 'hate marines'. You see how idiotic these claims sound yea?

Why have you assumed that SW will get no new, chapter specific stratagems (like y'know, what every other chapter has received in PA)? Why no new Primaris character? Why no 'special issue wargear' that allows even more unit flexibility? Why have you assumed that Orks don't get a name generator? Why do Orks get 'a ton of stuff they need' but SW don't? I can tell you the answer - because in your marine bias you make stupid claims that don't bear out in reality, that's why.

Take your negative claims about the community elsewhere. Perhaps to a thread where it's on topic.

Orks will get less than SW, it's virtually guaranteed given the same has happened for every other xenos faction that shares a book with the poster boys. I could see the Ork community reacting positively regardless. It looks already like we're getting more than most xenos factions and that should be celebrated.

the_scotsman wrote:
I just love how gloriously little effort it would take to exchange the orks in that story for another bad guy faction. There are so few descriptions of the orks, what theyre doing or how theyre trying to do it. I could write the same story about Tyranids, Genestealer Cultists, Ultramarines Animated Series level Black Legion marines, Daemons or maybe Drukhari by changing less than 50 or so words.

Theyre wearing yellow, theyve got rockets, they had a ladder, and the one had a lump of iron sword. Oh, and he was big. Thats what we know about the orks.

I couldn't help think the same. I was going to post a similar point but I was already getting flack for disliking the story so left it.

It's so vague and poorly written. The enemy could be anything. I don't even think you'd need to change 50 words to make them Tyranids. Remove the choppa and ladder. Replace 'armour' with 'chitin'. Replace 'rokkits' with 'deadly bioweapon'. Done.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Apparently liking the story was wrong.

I apologise for my temerity. I'll do my best to not like things related to Marines in the future.

It's DakkaDakka, some people just come here to complain. Hell I've yet to read a single post from some of the regulars here that's positive.

I fully expect this release to conclude with space wolves getting a few of their old relics from past editions converted, some of the Marine codex strats, the Phobos updates and a names list.

Meanwhile I expect Orks to get a new character, new strats etc, a ton of new things they need, but all we'll hear is complaints from Ork players that space wolves got more, even though 99% of their content is a reprint and complaints from space wolf players that all they got was reprints.

Your obvious marine bias is starting to rear it's ugly head again.

There's nothing wrong with liking the story, if that's your sort of thing just as there's nothing wrong with disliking the story. Just because someone dislikes the story, it doesn't mean they 'only like Ork protagonist stories' or 'hate marines'. You see how idiotic these claims sound yea?

Why have you assumed that SW will get no new, chapter specific stratagems (like y'know, what every other chapter has received in PA)? Why no new Primaris character? Why no 'special issue wargear' that allows even more unit flexibility? Why have you assumed that Orks don't get a name generator? Why do Orks get 'a ton of stuff they need' but SW don't? I can tell you the answer - because in your marine bias you make stupid claims that don't bear out in reality, that's why.

Take your negative claims about the community elsewhere. Perhaps to a thread where it's on topic.

Orks will get less than SW, it's virtually guaranteed given the same has happened for every other xenos faction that shares a book with the poster boys. I could see the Ork community reacting positively regardless. It looks already like we're getting more than most xenos factions and that should be celebrated.

the_scotsman wrote:
I just love how gloriously little effort it would take to exchange the orks in that story for another bad guy faction. There are so few descriptions of the orks, what theyre doing or how theyre trying to do it. I could write the same story about Tyranids, Genestealer Cultists, Ultramarines Animated Series level Black Legion marines, Daemons or maybe Drukhari by changing less than 50 or so words.

Theyre wearing yellow, theyve got rockets, they had a ladder, and the one had a lump of iron sword. Oh, and he was big. Thats what we know about the orks.

I couldn't help think the same. I was going to post a similar point but I was already getting flack for disliking the story so left it.

It's so vague and poorly written. The enemy could be anything. I don't even think you'd need to change 50 words to make them Tyranids. Remove the choppa and ladder. Replace 'armour' with 'chitin'. Replace 'rokkits' with 'deadly bioweapon'. Done.

my only bias is in reckongizing that certain aspects of this community are never happy. GW could literally relaunch an entire army with all brand new models and you'll have people complaining they didn't get eneugh NEW stuff.. hell it HAPPENED with sisters

Problem with sister is they haven't got even playable release yet. It's 1 month after codex is launched and you don't have playable force...

Maybe you buy models just to sit on shelves. Others buy to play. Not having even the bloody HQ so you could play games is ridiculous. And looks like it's 2 months(possibly 2.5) after codex that you can actually play.

Issue isn't # of kits they have released. Problem is they have released support stuff before even releasing enough stuff to play game. ATM nobody should start sister army if they didn't have big army to begin with.

BrianDavion wrote:
my only bias is in reckongizing that certain aspects of this community are never happy. GW could literally relaunch an entire army with all brand new models and you'll have people complaining they didn't get eneugh NEW stuff.. hell it HAPPENED with sisters

Rubbish. You believe every player that doesn't have a Marine army sits in the "never happy" camp. I'm pretty sure claiming an entire swathe of a community (such as all Ork players and all SW players as your previous post) are "never happy" breaks rule one? It certainly doesn't sound polite or respectful. You're also going to have to remind me how your parroting the same "certain aspects [non-Marine players] of this community are never happy" message has anything to do with PA news and rumours?

God damn this forum is salty and toxic and argumentative. Move on. If there’s nothing to talk about other than arguing people’s opinions and bias then don’t post. Jesus.

I haven't read the story. Using the word "Score/s" four times in a two thousand word story is quite bad, that can't really be argued.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
my only bias is in reckongizing that certain aspects of this community are never happy. GW could literally relaunch an entire army with all brand new models and you'll have people complaining they didn't get eneugh NEW stuff.. hell it HAPPENED with sisters

Rubbish. You believe every player that doesn't have a Marine army sits in the "never happy" camp. I'm pretty sure claiming an entire swathe of a community (such as all Ork players and all SW players as your previous post) are "never happy" breaks rule one? It certainly doesn't sound polite or respectful. You're also going to have to remind me how your parroting the same "certain aspects [non-Marine players] of this community are never happy" message has anything to do with PA news and rumours?

I like how you think I was implying that about all players and that I was talking about you (don't deny it it's why you're so defensive) for the record I wasn't


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tneva82 wrote:
Problem with sister is they haven't got even playable release yet. It's 1 month after codex is launched and you don't have playable force...

Maybe you buy models just to sit on shelves. Others buy to play. Not having even the bloody HQ so you could play games is ridiculous. And looks like it's 2 months(possibly 2.5) after codex that you can actually play.

Issue isn't # of kits they have released. Problem is they have released support stuff before even releasing enough stuff to play game. ATM nobody should start sister army if they didn't have big army to begin with.

Ohh I agree and I'm annoyed about that as well, but someone actually complained awhile back that sisters didn't get eneugh new stuff. it

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Who’s that lurking in the background?

Hmmmmm.

Here’s a conversation starter unrelated to the argument.

Looking at Makari’s (sp?) Base. How big do we think the base in the background is for Ghaz?

Danny76 wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Who’s that lurking in the background?

Hmmmmm.

Here’s a conversation starter unrelated to the argument.

Looking at Makari’s (sp?) Base. How big do we think the base in the background is for Ghaz?

. Pole about three makari, ca2 Pole.

Assuming makari is a bit bigger then your regular grot.
I have no idea.

Danny76 wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Who’s that lurking in the background?

Hmmmmm.

Here’s a conversation starter unrelated to the argument.

Looking at Makari’s (sp?) Base. How big do we think the base in the background is for Ghaz?

Probably a 60 scenic like abbadon or guilliman.

That would make him about the size of a deff dread... which is exactly what the fluff says about him.

edit: misread

 Jidmah wrote:
That would make him about the size of a deff dread... which is exactly what the fluff says about him.

So, roughly Primarch sized?

Depends on the primarch

I hope he's Dread size. He deserves it.

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