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2020/02/11 15:06:32
Subject: I miss the days....
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Focused Dark Angels Land Raider Pilot
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Good ol nostalgia thread. Post things you miss about the hobby from the good ol days.
Not necessarily things that you;d want to come back, just things that were fun at the time. Although if you want them to come back thats okay too.
For me it's the following:
I miss that the player themselves had to scream Waaaagh! to benefit from the Waaaaaagh on table top.
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2020/02/11 15:14:08
Subject: I miss the days....
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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When you could carry a whole army in a small case and there was room for spares/variety/multiple lists.
Not that I don't love the new big things, but darn it some armies are so full of big models now that it actually becomes a challenge finding a case that will fit everything comfortably;especially if you want to take a varied number of models so that you have some adaptability depending on your mood/who you end up playing.
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2020/02/11 15:17:04
Subject: I miss the days....
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I miss all the funny dice, d3 through to d20. I don’t know why but when I was a kid I thought it was cool
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2020/02/11 15:18:09
Subject: I miss the days....
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Monster-Slaying Daemonhunter
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Setting a 5" blast over a tower of space marines and watching them evaporate.
When tanks were basically proof against most firepower, and a Lascannon merely inconvenienced them.
My Vanquishers versus my friend's Hammerheads in tank duels.
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Guardsmen, hear me! Cadia may lie in ruin, but her proud people do not! For each brother and sister who gave their lives to Him as martyrs, we will reap a vengeance fiftyfold! Cadia may be no more, but will never be forgotten; our foes shall tremble in fear at the name, for their doom shall come from the barrels of Cadian guns, fired by Cadian hands! Forward, for vengeance and retribution, in His name and the names of our fallen comrades! |
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2020/02/11 15:32:39
Subject: I miss the days....
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I miss Tank Shock. I don't want it to come back, but I definitely do have nostalgic feelings for it.
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Galef wrote:If you refuse to use rock, you will never beat scissors. |
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2020/02/11 15:47:03
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Monster-Slaying Daemonhunter
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Yarium wrote:I miss Tank Shock. I don't want it to come back, but I definitely do have nostalgic feelings for it.
I remember one time I tank shocked a unit of Necron Warriors all the way across the board with a weapon destroyed Leman Russ to win the game one time. They just failed leadership, and never managed to escape the tank even though the tank was really slow. Slowest chase ever.
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Guardsmen, hear me! Cadia may lie in ruin, but her proud people do not! For each brother and sister who gave their lives to Him as martyrs, we will reap a vengeance fiftyfold! Cadia may be no more, but will never be forgotten; our foes shall tremble in fear at the name, for their doom shall come from the barrels of Cadian guns, fired by Cadian hands! Forward, for vengeance and retribution, in His name and the names of our fallen comrades! |
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2020/02/11 15:51:54
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Gargantuan Gargant
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I miss the days when mech and biker lists were still a thing, definitely beats pushing a huge infantry horde all the time as Orks.
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2020/02/11 15:52:22
Subject: Re:I miss the days....
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Ferocious Black Templar Castellan
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Righteous Zeal. Go on, shoot my blob of angry chainsaw-fanatics. Please; proceed.
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For thirteen years I had a dog with fur the darkest black. For thirteen years he was my friend, oh how I want him back. |
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2020/02/11 15:53:31
Subject: I miss the days....
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Dakka Veteran
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I miss deepstriking in the middle of the enemies army with the chance to destroy your unit. Opened up the board more. No guts, no glory!
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2020/02/11 15:58:26
Subject: I miss the days....
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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Fire arcs. I miss having to aim your models at the things you wanted to shoot, being able to force aircraft to overshoot, and having some reward for getting behind a tank.
Scatter dice. You may say "but it makes things take longer to resolve!" but I don't think measuring a 9" circle from everything when you want to Deep Strike or needing to roll random shots-to hit-to hit rerolls-to wound-to wound rerolls-saves-FNP on every attack has made anything faster, just blander.
The days before volume-of-AT, where you could kill a tank with one big shot but could only have a chance of stunlocking it by spamming autocannons.
Difficult terrain. I miss having to maneuver instead of just moving straight towards wherever you want to go.
4e Warlocks/3e Grey Knights. I miss the days when "psychic" could just be a lore description and didn't have to mean "this thing is literally a full-power psyker that has the same kind of powers Librarians/Farseers/Sorcerers/etc. do".
4e Chapter Tactics. I miss being able to make your army do something instead of defining everything you do in terms of GW's armies.
Sweeping Advance. I miss not having to grind through every single model on the table with attacks to get rid of them.
One-detachment-per-army. I miss having to take a sane distribution of units instead of just spamming whatever the most efficient choice is.
Explicitly permission-use named characters. I miss needing to use your own characters instead of having the same named characters in every army.
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2020/02/11 16:00:07
Subject: I miss the days....
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Battleship Captain
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Bloodthirsters having a 10 for nearly every stat.
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2020/02/11 16:02:23
Subject: I miss the days....
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I miss the days when 40k had lower lethality, so having an ongoing army narrative across games was possible.
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2020/02/11 16:04:27
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Monster-Slaying Daemonhunter
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AnomanderRake wrote:Fire arcs. I miss having to aim your models at the things you wanted to shoot, being able to force aircraft to overshoot, and having some reward for getting behind a tank.
Scatter dice. You may say "but it makes things take longer to resolve!" but I don't think measuring a 9" circle from everything when you want to Deep Strike or needing to roll random shots-to hit-to hit rerolls-to wound-to wound rerolls-saves- FNP on every attack has made anything faster, just blander.
It's not so much slow as it was argument inducing. I'd bring a pair of yardsticks with me so that I could place one over the die and one over the model to show that they were in fact parallel, because people were claiming to be up to like 30 or 45 degrees difference between where the dice was and where my templates were going.
I do miss the templates though, because it was fun to put out the disk and have everything under it just die.
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Guardsmen, hear me! Cadia may lie in ruin, but her proud people do not! For each brother and sister who gave their lives to Him as martyrs, we will reap a vengeance fiftyfold! Cadia may be no more, but will never be forgotten; our foes shall tremble in fear at the name, for their doom shall come from the barrels of Cadian guns, fired by Cadian hands! Forward, for vengeance and retribution, in His name and the names of our fallen comrades! |
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2020/02/11 16:04:47
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Waaagh! Warbiker
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The original Ork Shokk Attack gun with bases of snotlings for ammunition.
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2020/02/11 16:07:05
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Gore-Drenched Khorne Chaos Lord
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Call me odd, but the good old force org chart. Things are too cheap points wise etc now but only having the 1 chart to fill and having to make the cuts/decisions on which units you took felt like your list building was more involved.
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2020/02/11 16:11:24
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Fixture of Dakka
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My very early beginner games where the cheesiest thing was a small unit of Death Company.
That and scattering blasts. You don't know fun until you watch an enemies turret scatter precisely to wipe out one of their squads.
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tremere47-fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate, leads to triple riptide spam |
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2020/02/11 16:12:05
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Killer Klaivex
The dark behind the eyes.
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I miss the days when a new codex would have more content than the previous one.
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blood reaper wrote:I will respect human rights and trans people but I will never under any circumstances use the phrase 'folks' or 'ya'll'. I would rather be killed by firing squad.
the_scotsman wrote:Yeah, when i read the small novel that is the Death Guard unit options and think about resolving the attacks from a melee-oriented min size death guard squad, the thing that springs to mind is "Accessible!"
Argive wrote:GW seems to have a crystal ball and just pulls hairbrained ideas out of their backside for the most part.
Andilus Greatsword wrote:
"Prepare to open fire at that towering Wraithknight!"
"ARE YOU DAFT MAN!?! YOU MIGHT HIT THE MEN WHO COME UP TO ITS ANKLES!!!"
Akiasura wrote:I hate to sound like a serial killer, but I'll be reaching for my friend occam's razor yet again.
insaniak wrote:
You're not. If you're worried about your opponent using 'fake' rules, you're having fun the wrong way. This hobby isn't about rules. It's about buying Citadel miniatures.
Please report to your nearest GW store for attitude readjustment. Take your wallet. |
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2020/02/11 16:14:04
Subject: I miss the days....
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Blackclad Wayfarer
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I miss blast templates
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2020/02/11 16:18:03
Subject: I miss the days....
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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Sustained fire dice. It was great fun pushing your luck with assault cannons, seeing how much you could kill before the gun inevitably jammed on you.
The general naïveté I had about GW’s bad rules before the days of the internet.
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2020/02/11 16:18:04
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Sword-Wielding Bloodletter of Khorne
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The hinged Thudd Gun blast template
Wolf Guard with Assault Cannons AND Cyclone Missile Launchers
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2020/02/11 16:18:57
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Dudeface wrote:Call me odd, but the good old force org chart. Things are too cheap points wise etc now but only having the 1 chart to fill and having to make the cuts/decisions on which units you took felt like your list building was more involved.
I liked it, but at the same time it also needed a rework to account for the growth of army size and reducing points. It did leave the door open for some really powerful things that you couldn't spam and GW has sort of brought back a bit of an element of it with the optional "no more than 3" rule that's become pretty popular to stop spam. I think the concept of it is still very valid if chosen to be included in the game again.
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2020/02/11 16:20:32
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
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I miss templates and facing, and I miss LOS caring about intervening terrain and model.
Positioning on the board matters so little in 8th and the minor arguments over positioning that would occasionally occur were well worth the depth of decision making added by those rules.
A game with the loadout and unit depth and breadth as vast as 40k functions better as a simulation-style wargame than as a balanced tournament-style wargame with standardized mission setups and army sizes and whatnot. Just my own personal opinion on the matter.
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"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"
"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"
"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"
"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!" |
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2020/02/11 16:22:00
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Androgynous Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
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I miss 5th edition. My daemons were king if you worked for it. Then 7th came and any jackass could play them. And now 8th is just massive rules bloat. Sigh. RIP, 5th...
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Reality is a nice place to visit, but I'd hate to live there.
Manchu wrote:I'm a Catholic. We eat our God.
Due to work, I can usually only ship any sales or trades out on Saturday morning. Please trade/purchase with this in mind. |
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2020/02/11 16:24:48
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Sword-Wielding Bloodletter of Khorne
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I also miss the original Necromunda clip-together terrain.
We used it a lot for 40k too after it was released and I was a FOOL to get rid of mine. A FOOL.
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2020/02/11 16:25:48
Subject: Re:I miss the days....
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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I miss the days that playing Warhammer meant pushing the models around on the carpet making gun noises! We used to laugh at the idea of one side standing still whilst they were being killed just because it wasn't their turn.
It's weird because there were no rules apart from 'be reasonable', but we still had many a hard fought battle!
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2020/02/11 16:34:00
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Focused Dark Angels Land Raider Pilot
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All these are making me proper nostalgic.
I have to admit, I do miss the anticipation and nervousness of risky deepstrikes with scatter dice. Are my guys gunna just out of this flyer straight into a wall, or will they make it? who knows?
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2020/02/11 16:34:08
Subject: Re:I miss the days....
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Kroem wrote:I miss the days that playing Warhammer meant pushing the models around on the carpet making gun noises! We used to laugh at the idea of one side standing still whilst they were being killed just because it wasn't their turn.
It's weird because there were no rules apart from 'be reasonable', but we still had many a hard fought battle!
I still make tank noises when moving my stuff around!
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Guardsmen, hear me! Cadia may lie in ruin, but her proud people do not! For each brother and sister who gave their lives to Him as martyrs, we will reap a vengeance fiftyfold! Cadia may be no more, but will never be forgotten; our foes shall tremble in fear at the name, for their doom shall come from the barrels of Cadian guns, fired by Cadian hands! Forward, for vengeance and retribution, in His name and the names of our fallen comrades! |
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2020/02/11 16:38:39
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Focused Dark Angels Land Raider Pilot
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Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote: Kroem wrote:I miss the days that playing Warhammer meant pushing the models around on the carpet making gun noises! We used to laugh at the idea of one side standing still whilst they were being killed just because it wasn't their turn.
It's weird because there were no rules apart from 'be reasonable', but we still had many a hard fought battle!
I still make tank noises when moving my stuff around!
we still live action re-inact it when something cool happens.
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2020/02/11 16:39:57
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote: Kroem wrote:I miss the days that playing Warhammer meant pushing the models around on the carpet making gun noises! We used to laugh at the idea of one side standing still whilst they were being killed just because it wasn't their turn.
It's weird because there were no rules apart from 'be reasonable', but we still had many a hard fought battle!
I still make tank noises when moving my stuff around!
Wait isn't that the whole point of having an army with tanks?!
What do you do if you can't make tank noises?!
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2020/02/11 16:42:22
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
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SeanDavid1991 wrote:All these are making me proper nostalgic.
I have to admit, I do miss the anticipation and nervousness of risky deepstrikes with scatter dice. Are my guys gunna just out of this flyer straight into a wall, or will they make it? who knows?
My very first game of 40k that I played with my friend saw a unit of stormtroopers with melta guns drop in next to a tank, fire, blow up one of its weapons, then a friendly Leman Russ fired its weapon at the tank, scattered and blew away the stormtroopers.
I started playing 40k instead of Flames of War because 40k felt more chaotic and like more crazy things could happen, which was appealing to me. Also, when I built units I got to decide what each dude was holding instead of buying basically whole army formations with fixed setups at once.
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"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"
"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"
"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"
"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!" |
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