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Points of interest for me.

I can get behind a bunch of that, but the new Monolith. . . Eeeuuch.

The tall walkers and fattie destroyer look pretty sweet though.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
So you're really not a Necron player you just some stuff to put together in boredom.

I forgot that you need to own that specific unit to play that army.

Oh, wait, no, you don't.

While I agree that battle damaged Necrons aren't some kind of big departure from the stock Necron design, the idea of "you're not a REAL Necron player if you don't own this" is dumb.

What, am I not a real IG player because I don't have a Taurox, or Ogryns?
Am I not a real Sisters player because I don't have an Exorcist?
Am I not a real Chaos player because I don't have any Terminators?

I am in love with everything!

I'm glad I have a few months to save up!


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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Points of interest for me.

Yeah, that looks like another new unit on the left, and the likely Terrain piece in the back.

Terrain thing I’m cautious about, as Ossiarchs in AoS were shown with fortifications which were custom jobs.


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Monoliths are sporting different weapons...

Foreground has what may be smaller Doomsday Cannon type. Background has the Flayer Array...

That C'tan, it has to be the Void Dragon! It sure as gak ain't an updated Nightbringer.

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Terrain thing I’m cautious about, as Ossiarchs in AoS were shown with fortifications which were custom jobs.


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Monoliths are sporting different weapons...

Foreground has what may be smaller Doomsday Cannon type. Background has the Flayer Array...

Yeah, it could be custom terrain for sure. It just looks like something that could easily be a Terrain kit as well.

The unit hiding behind the Monolith looks to be Canoptek.

Tauris_Blazestar wrote:That C'tan, it has to be the Void Dragon! It sure as gak ain't an updated Nightbringer.

At the very least it's dragon esque... It has a tail, wings and weapon. I agree that there is no way that's an updated Nightbringer.

Maybe that kit will have customization options?

Sasori wrote:
At the very least it's dragon esque... It has a tail, wings and weapon. I agree that there is no way that's an updated Nightbringer.

Maybe that kit will have customization options?

Which lore sources is the Void Dragon actually in? Was it a Black Library release or lost in an old codex/campaign book?

 Tauris_Blazestar wrote:

Sasori wrote:
At the very least it's dragon esque... It has a tail, wings and weapon. I agree that there is no way that's an updated Nightbringer.

Maybe that kit will have customization options?

Which lore sources is the Void Dragon actually in? Was it a Black Library release or lost in an old codex/campaign book?

Original Necron Codex is the source I'm familiar with. There were three C'tan named, the Nightbringer, The Deceiver, the Outsider, and the Void Dragon.

Insectum7 wrote:
Original Necron Codex is the source I'm familiar with. There were three C'tan named, the Nightbringer, The Deceiver, the Outsider, and the Void Dragon.

Off to lore dive!

 Insectum7 wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
So you're really not a Necron player you just some stuff to put together in boredom.

I played Necrons quite seriously in 3rd, 4th and a bit of 5th, so you're wrong twice. And I never liked the Ghost Keel model to begin with.

Well if you did in fact play them "seriously" in 5th you would've had one.

3rd/4th Codex only named it as The Dragon.

Peeps confused it with the Void Dragon Phoenix Bomber, and the rest is history.

OMG wow. That high rez picture looks amazing.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
3rd/4th Codex only named it as The Dragon.

Peeps confused it with the Void Dragon Phoenix Bomber, and the rest is history.

Lol, you're right.

Wow, so many details.

Big doomsday(?) cannon spyder boy looks fantastic, one without the gun also looks good, very happy with both of those models.I guess someone really took the line of sight criticism of the doomsday ark to heart and just decided to shove it on a tower, which is hilarious. Looks fragile and will be hard to hide though so who knows how viable it'll end up being and the gun also looks like the Forge World Gauss Exterminator. Anyway, fits perfectly with other Canoptek style units.

Love the new destroyer model, looks like an updated version of the old model, which is perfect because the old model is one of my favourites. Only small criticism is that the hand supporting the gun kind of takes away from the old feeling that they could manoeuvre the gun effortlessly, but it looks like there's a general move towards shambling horrors and away from eldritch anyway.

Silent King model looks pretty much exactly as I expected. Interesting that the two pieces of floating Blackstone seem to be separate models to the main base - lots of hidden details in this picture, would be interested to see why they're detached. Look good, but it feels somewhat by the numbers. Hoping for cool rules.

New C'tan looks ace, can't tell if the base is destroyed Blackstone or just generic Necron scenery. Either way, looks great and very evocative of paintings of angels, wing design is amazing and the choice to have the head be nothing but a symbol plays into the horror theme a lot.

New Necron warriors look quite similar to the old ones minus a green rod and a bit more shambling. Again, plays more into an undead style than an eldritch one and they look a bit better without all just squatting. Otherwise, meh. Suspect new gun will be too good to pass up so we have to use the new boxes.

The guy holding the warscythe is very interesting. At first, I'd pinned it as a new Lord model, but there doesn't appear to be any kind of lower torso, just a tail thing, and the chin reminds me of Crypteks but even bigger. Looks to be commanding the new canoptek stabby blobs. Quite like his design, not a fan of the walking canoptek style things - a bit too goofy for me.

Skorptek lord looks a lot better in that picture than in the close up where it feels very busy, but the claw hand is still way too big for me and the head looks off. Something I'm finding interesting is all these models have significant battle damage, very unlike the old range - again, feels like a shift in tone. It's okay, not my favourite model but it's fine for what it is. Prefer the other Skorptek stuff honestly.

Monolith change is very interesting. Compared to the old one, it's much busier which I'm not sure I like, and I definitely prefer the crystal to the ball thing though I like the side support for the ball. That said, it's quite true to the old model if you were going to update it, it looks 100x easier to build and I love the new gateway crackle effect with the guy stepping out of it. Same hover ports on the side as the new destroyer, which makes sense as the old ones matched in style too. I think I prefer it over all, I just wish there was less side greebling. Of rules note, those are distinctly death ray looking side cannons on the front model, and the old flux arcs on the back one, so that's very interesting; death rays would make it much more deadly as a model. Also, no guy stepping out the one at the back so it looks like that's a build choice as well - good. Whole thing is full of Blackstone, which makes me think they're going to be heavily pushed in 9th as psychic defence, but we'll see.

Thing hiding behind monolith - looks like some type of stealthy model. Looks like it might also be skorptek style legs, some odd multi-eye thing and full of glowing tubes which in Necron armies usually end in guns - possibly the shooty variant of the skorptek destroyer if it's not stealthy? No idea honestly. Hard to judge without seeing it in full.

All told, very happy with the new models, a little hesitant over the style change but looks like they've tried to blend the new and old. The highlights for me are definitely the C'tan and cannon walker thing; let's just hope any of this ends up as playable.

Those jet engine crypteks accompanying the lord perhaps have some sort of guardian protocols. They don't have a staff, only metal pikes (for cc likely), and that cylinder thingy likely generates something, a protective field perhaps

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 Insectum7 wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
So you're really not a Necron player you just some stuff to put together in boredom.

I played Necrons quite seriously in 3rd, 4th and a bit of 5th, so you're wrong twice. And I never liked the Ghost Keel model to begin with.

Well if you did in fact play them "seriously" in 5th you would've had one.

No need to be a jerk.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 Insectum7 wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
So you're really not a Necron player you just some stuff to put together in boredom.

I played Necrons quite seriously in 3rd, 4th and a bit of 5th, so you're wrong twice. And I never liked the Ghost Keel model to begin with.

Well if you did in fact play them "seriously" in 5th you would've had one.

Yeah whatever, dude.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 Insectum7 wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
So you're really not a Necron player you just some stuff to put together in boredom.

I played Necrons quite seriously in 3rd, 4th and a bit of 5th, so you're wrong twice. And I never liked the Ghost Keel model to begin with.

Well if you did in fact play them "seriously" in 5th you would've had one.

Chill out there.

The model didn't even exist until the very tail end of that edition...

 Vaktathi wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 Insectum7 wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
So you're really not a Necron player you just some stuff to put together in boredom.

I played Necrons quite seriously in 3rd, 4th and a bit of 5th, so you're wrong twice. And I never liked the Ghost Keel model to begin with.

Well if you did in fact play them "seriously" in 5th you would've had one.

Chill out there.

The model didn't even exist until the very tail end of that edition...

I was going to say. 5th ed released 2008, and the Cron book wasnt released until 2011.

Surprise surprise the Silent King doesn't look like his previous description.

 Lord Damocles wrote:
Surprise surprise the Silent King doesn't look like his previous description.

Can you give a quote for the previous description? Not sure I know it.

New monolith looks...ok.
Its fine, the old version was a little better, imo.

I like the C'tan. Cool model, will acquire if its standalone and not in a 100 euro vehicle kit like the Transcendent C'tan is.

I really like the walker. I want it. Also, it has a Doomsday Cannon, which means I can have artillery without getting more of those stupid arks.

That is a big gun on the destroyer. Will have it get it.

 Insectum7 wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:
Surprise surprise the Silent King doesn't look like his previous description.

Can you give a quote for the previous description? Not sure I know it.

'He was taller than the rest, yet not as tall as I had imagined he might be. His mechanical body was a work of unspeakable xenos artifice, more finely wrought than any I had ever seen upon the field of battle. Where they might be skeletal, he was lithe, his every movement possessed and undeniable vitality. His form spoke of musculature and clean-limbed strength, perhaps touched by the divine, and his finery was simple and yet impossibly elegant.
/
Framed by a cowl of shimmering light and the traceries of his intricate collar / wore a golden mask fashioned into the likeness of our Lord Sanguinius.'

- The Word of the Silent King

 Lord Damocles wrote:

 Insectum7 wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:
Surprise surprise the Silent King doesn't look like his previous description.

Can you give a quote for the previous description? Not sure I know it.

'He was taller than the rest, yet not as tall as I had imagined he might be. His mechanical body was a work of unspeakable xenos artifice, more finely wrought than any I had ever seen upon the field of battle. Where they might be skeletal, he was lithe, his every movement possessed and undeniable vitality. His form spoke of musculature and clean-limbed strength, perhaps touched by the divine, and his finery was simple and yet impossibly elegant.
/
Framed by a cowl of shimmering light and the traceries of his intricate collar / wore a golden mask fashioned into the likeness of our Lord Sanguinius.'

- The Word of the Silent King

Neato, thanks!

Yeah not too similar, huh?

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
New monolith looks...ok.
Its fine, the old version was a little better, imo.

I like the C'tan. Cool model, will acquire if its standalone and not in a 100 euro vehicle kit like the Transcendent C'tan is.

I really like the walker. I want it. Also, it has a Doomsday Cannon, which means I can have artillery without getting more of those stupid arks.

That is a big gun on the destroyer. Will have it get it.

I'm going to be replacing my Monoliths and warriors with the new kits.

Mostly because they were the first models I ever did, and they are really not great. I'm almost kind of glad that I didn't have to put my Monolith on the table much after 5th, because it was just so badly put together.

I'm a fan of the new one, I like the gate and new weapon s look a lot.

Isn't the stuff that C'Tan made of(I want to say necrodermis?) able to shift its features/shape?

If that's the case, maybe his body is made of the same stuff as them and he was putting on airs for the Blood Angels.

 Lord Damocles wrote:

 Insectum7 wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:
Surprise surprise the Silent King doesn't look like his previous description.

Can you give a quote for the previous description? Not sure I know it.

'He was taller than the rest, yet not as tall as I had imagined he might be. His mechanical body was a work of unspeakable xenos artifice, more finely wrought than any I had ever seen upon the field of battle. Where they might be skeletal, he was lithe, his every movement possessed and undeniable vitality. His form spoke of musculature and clean-limbed strength, perhaps touched by the divine, and his finery was simple and yet impossibly elegant.
/
Framed by a cowl of shimmering light and the traceries of his intricate collar / wore a golden mask fashioned into the likeness of our Lord Sanguinius.'

- The Word of the Silent King

errrm from what I can see of the model it doesn't appear to differentiate from that too far besides the mask? He's most definitely tall and lithe but not massive, his armour looks ornate, certainly more so than the average necron but not ridiculously so. He certainly has a presence about him. I haven't read the book but wouldn't the mask be something he would deliberately use while dealing with blood angels? Why would he wear it all the time especially around his followers?

I'm somewhat torn on the new Necrons.

The good:

On the one hand, there are some pretty neat-looking designs. I like the tall machines that look straight out of War of the Worlds; I like the hunched, scythe-handed things; I like the weird, floating dude who seems to have robes instead of legs.

And of course, it's nice that a Xenos faction seems to be getting some decent attention.


The bad:

I'm not a fan of scale-creep so I'm wary of some of the models here for that reason alone. Moreover, I know some people probably gush over them but I really don't like these diorama models they keep wheeling out. That 3-legged dude just looks absurd to me. Why not 4 legs? And why does he even need the third arm? It seems like it will get in the way of his gun arm whilst necessitating that said arm also be absurdly spindly? The Void Dragon looks interesting but it seems almost pointless for him to exist as a model when the c'tan have been reduced to little more than glorified pokemon.

Also, that stupidly-large gun on top of the tall robot really bothers me. As does the new Destroyer's gun. Are Necrons just repainted Orks now? Surely one of the most advanced races in the galaxy can have powerful weapons without them either a) being absurdly large or b) having a stupid number of barrels?


My real concern though is that I don't think the main problem with Necron's has been their limited range. Not since 3rd edition, anyway. Outside of their samey troop choices, I haven't felt like their range was too small for some time.

No, my issue with Necrons is that their rules for the past 2 editions have been uninspiring and generally boring to play. Hence, until I get more information on the rules and whether they've actually improved I just can't muster much enthusiasm for Necrons.

 Sasori wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
New monolith looks...ok.
Its fine, the old version was a little better, imo.

I like the C'tan. Cool model, will acquire if its standalone and not in a 100 euro vehicle kit like the Transcendent C'tan is.

I really like the walker. I want it. Also, it has a Doomsday Cannon, which means I can have artillery without getting more of those stupid arks.

That is a big gun on the destroyer. Will have it get it.

I'm going to be replacing my Monoliths and warriors with the new kits.

Mostly because they were the first models I ever did, and they are really not great. I'm almost kind of glad that I didn't have to put my Monolith on the table much after 5th, because it was just so badly put together.

I'm a fan of the new one, I like the gate and new weapon s look a lot.

I'll take some of those off your hands!