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2020/07/04 12:53:01
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
vipoid wrote: Nothing to do with the rules, but it amuses me that 'playing up the horror elements of Necrons' still translates to 'Tomb Kings in SPAAAAAAACE!'
Sorry but I cannot take seriously any model with a foot-long chin. Nor one that appears to be wearing a bead-curtain.
But robes over armor, icons, purity seals, fuckin' squelettons on shields are ok ?
40k has always had this over the top gothic esthetic, nothing new.
But that's my point - I *want* Necrons to be Gothic. Gothic is fine, even if it is over the top.
My issue is that they no longer have a Gothic aesthetic, instead they have an Egyptian/Tomb Kings aesthetic.
blood reaper wrote: I will respect human rights and trans people but I will never under any circumstances use the phrase 'folks' or 'ya'll'. I would rather be killed by firing squad.
the_scotsman wrote: Yeah, when i read the small novel that is the Death Guard unit options and think about resolving the attacks from a melee-oriented min size death guard squad, the thing that springs to mind is "Accessible!"
Argive wrote: GW seems to have a crystal ball and just pulls hairbrained ideas out of their backside for the most part.
You're not. If you're worried about your opponent using 'fake' rules, you're having fun the wrong way. This hobby isn't about rules. It's about buying Citadel miniatures.
Please report to your nearest GW store for attitude readjustment. Take your wallet.
2020/07/04 13:12:11
Subject: Re:Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2020/07/04 14:30:09
Subject: Re:Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Sasori wrote: Silent King and Void Dragon both look excellent.
It's clear the Silent King is going to be a supreme commander super heavy, but I am curious if the Void Dragon is. It's a pretty huge model.
The Void Dragon won't be part of SC detachment, because it's obviously not going to be the Warlord with the whole "enslaved shard" lore shtick. I don't think it will be a Lord of War either but it is very big as you say
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2020/07/04 14:33:08
Subject: Re:Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
The face-off was a bad Joke.
If you want to show how 2 units Play against each other for us players, then you have to use a game-like scenario. That means you have to use at least the 24' distance you have every game. Not this 12' bs that ist already the best range for necrons. For me this face-off only showed that even when you give necrons a hard boost it is really hard for them to win even by a small bit (one of them beeing a hardcore lucky Overlord)
2020/07/04 14:48:04
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Surtr wrote: The face-off was a bad Joke.
If you want to show how 2 units Play against each other for us players, then you have to use a game-like scenario. That means you have to use at least the 24' distance you have every game. Not this 12' bs that ist already the best range for necrons. For me this face-off only showed that even when you give necrons a hard boost it is really hard for them to win even by a small bit (one of them beeing a hardcore lucky Overlord)
Throwing random units agaiinst each other one on one like this is a very poor way to demonstrate the effectiveness of any of them. Like you wouldn't throw Skorpekhs at Bladeguard, because they have invs and you're losing a lot of their AP on hard targets - you'd send them off to eat Aggressors or regular primaris.
Likewise the Overlord is never getting into a 1vs1 with a Captain, both are buffing character who generally hang back behind their lines.
It was just a hype building exercise for the box and excuse to show off the datasheets.
2020/07/04 15:06:24
Subject: Re:Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Surtr wrote: Oh yes datasheets... With abilitys and rules on them that get shown to us. Like RP on a 20 man warrior squat with reroll 1. Or living metal on OL.
Or Not...
Yeah I get it, it wasn't great. No need to turn this into a salt mine over some random GW employees faking rolling some dice to set up a fake showdown between some models to hype their new release.
We got some cool reveals and we're getting a codex. Lets see how the army functions before melting in piles of sarcastic irritated goo.
Wondering what the Void Dragon's schtick will be. Lore says stuff about the lightning and him using it to zap fools, so no shockers there, but lore also mentions his ability to create virtually indestructable warriors, which suggests buffing abilities too.
2020/07/04 15:22:28
Subject: Re:Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Surtr wrote: Oh yes datasheets... With abilitys and rules on them that get shown to us. Like RP on a 20 man warrior squat with reroll 1. Or living metal on OL.
Or Not...
Yeah I get it, it wasn't great. No need to turn this into a salt mine over some random GW employees faking rolling some dice to set up a fake showdown between some models to hype their new release.
We got some cool reveals and we're getting a codex. Lets see how the army functions before melting in piles of sarcastic irritated goo.
Wondering what the Void Dragon's schtick will be. Lore says stuff about the lightning and him using it to zap fools, so no shockers there, but lore also mentions his ability to create virtually indestructable warriors, which suggests buffing abilities too.
It'll be really interesting to see, maybe some of his C'tan powers will buff friendly units? Could be an aura ability too
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2020/07/04 15:45:39
Subject: Re:Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Surtr wrote: Oh yes datasheets... With abilitys and rules on them that get shown to us. Like RP on a 20 man warrior squat with reroll 1. Or living metal on OL.
Or Not...
Yeah I get it, it wasn't great. No need to turn this into a salt mine over some random GW employees faking rolling some dice to set up a fake showdown between some models to hype their new release.
We got some cool reveals and we're getting a codex. Lets see how the army functions before melting in piles of sarcastic irritated goo.
Wondering what the Void Dragon's schtick will be. Lore says stuff about the lightning and him using it to zap fools, so no shockers there, but lore also mentions his ability to create virtually indestructable warriors, which suggests buffing abilities too.
It'll be really interesting to see, maybe some of his C'tan powers will buff friendly units? Could be an aura ability too
The C'Tan never really struck me as altruistic enough to give buffs, but who knows. It's neat that they show the actual shard of the C'Tan (the little hexagon in the chest), and communicate visually that all of the rest of it is generated by the shard. It's also a nice bit of shorthand showing us how many possible shards there are of each c'tan, and it's a ton. He is going to be a right pain in the butt to paint though.
Constantly being negative doesn't make you seem erudite, it just makes you look like a curmudgeon.
2020/07/04 16:01:52
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
OK I decried people sating it was the void dragon months ago, I was convinced it was a dumb move given the existing fluff has it trapped on Mars. I was wrong about them not doing it, but sadly right that it makes little sense and "oh merrr gawd it are most powerful c'tan evurrrr" except thats has never been said or suggested anywhere.
2020/07/04 16:08:28
Subject: Re:Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Surtr wrote: Oh yes datasheets... With abilitys and rules on them that get shown to us. Like RP on a 20 man warrior squat with reroll 1. Or living metal on OL.
Or Not...
Yeah I get it, it wasn't great. No need to turn this into a salt mine over some random GW employees faking rolling some dice to set up a fake showdown between some models to hype their new release.
We got some cool reveals and we're getting a codex. Lets see how the army functions before melting in piles of sarcastic irritated goo.
Wondering what the Void Dragon's schtick will be. Lore says stuff about the lightning and him using it to zap fools, so no shockers there, but lore also mentions his ability to create virtually indestructable warriors, which suggests buffing abilities too.
It'll be really interesting to see, maybe some of his C'tan powers will buff friendly units? Could be an aura ability too
I could see there being some kind of aura or manipulation of our units or vehicles.
Dudeface wrote: OK I decried people sating it was the void dragon months ago, I was convinced it was a dumb move given the existing fluff has it trapped on Mars. I was wrong about them not doing it, but sadly right that it makes little sense and "oh merrr gawd it are most powerful c'tan evurrrr" except thats has never been said or suggested anywhere.
There was that bit of lore about the Necron's attacking Mars with a tiny fleet ages ago. It snuck past defenses and landed on Mars before being destroyed. Given that Necrons can teleport across star systems, it's not much of a stretch to think they could have stolen the shard and warped out.
Also there is other lore about another shard of the void dragon that was stolen off an eldar world. It broke free and destroyed the dynasty that had it, irrc.
Chances are the Martians only had a shard of it, and we could easily have stolen it back.
2020/07/04 16:23:37
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Dudeface wrote: OK I decried people sating it was the void dragon months ago, I was convinced it was a dumb move given the existing fluff has it trapped on Mars. I was wrong about them not doing it, but sadly right that it makes little sense and "oh merrr gawd it are most powerful c'tan evurrrr" except thats has never been said or suggested anywhere.
Im pretty certain there is some lore somewhere that states even the deceiver wouldn't mess with this guy and he happily messed with the Night bringer
2020/07/04 17:03:57
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Dudeface wrote: OK I decried people sating it was the void dragon months ago, I was convinced it was a dumb move given the existing fluff has it trapped on Mars. I was wrong about them not doing it, but sadly right that it makes little sense and "oh merrr gawd it are most powerful c'tan evurrrr" except thats has never been said or suggested anywhere.
Im pretty certain there is some lore somewhere that states even the deceiver wouldn't mess with this guy and he happily messed with the Night bringer
As far as I was aware the nightbringer ate the most of his peers and since 3rd ed has been top dog
2020/07/04 17:06:23
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Dudeface wrote: OK I decried people sating it was the void dragon months ago, I was convinced it was a dumb move given the existing fluff has it trapped on Mars. I was wrong about them not doing it, but sadly right that it makes little sense and "oh merrr gawd it are most powerful c'tan evurrrr" except thats has never been said or suggested anywhere.
Im pretty certain there is some lore somewhere that states even the deceiver wouldn't mess with this guy and he happily messed with the Night bringer
As far as I was aware the nightbringer ate the most of his peers and since 3rd ed has been top dog
Found a quote from lexicanum regarding the Void dragon
"In a transcript of a Vox-communication between one Inquisitor Horst and a Tech-priest, Alagos, the Void Dragon is described as the most powerful of all the Star Gods, having the ability to create almost invincible warriors. "
2020/07/04 17:09:20
Subject: Re:Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Surtr wrote: Oh yes datasheets... With abilitys and rules on them that get shown to us. Like RP on a 20 man warrior squat with reroll 1. Or living metal on OL.
Or Not...
Yeah I get it, it wasn't great. No need to turn this into a salt mine over some random GW employees faking rolling some dice to set up a fake showdown between some models to hype their new release.
We got some cool reveals and we're getting a codex. Lets see how the army functions before melting in piles of sarcastic irritated goo.
Wondering what the Void Dragon's schtick will be. Lore says stuff about the lightning and him using it to zap fools, so no shockers there, but lore also mentions his ability to create virtually indestructable warriors, which suggests buffing abilities too.
Sorry about my ranting. It just feels like this face-off gives people a reason to say: 'Look the new Necrons are so strong (to strong) they won the face-off".
I just hoped to learn anything new from it. The only thing we got from this was that the c'tan we knew we where gonna get ist the void Dragon. They just showed us 2 Modells that we already saw a month ago...
2020/07/04 18:23:23
Subject: Re:Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Surtr wrote: Oh yes datasheets... With abilitys and rules on them that get shown to us. Like RP on a 20 man warrior squat with reroll 1. Or living metal on OL.
Or Not...
Yeah I get it, it wasn't great. No need to turn this into a salt mine over some random GW employees faking rolling some dice to set up a fake showdown between some models to hype their new release.
We got some cool reveals and we're getting a codex. Lets see how the army functions before melting in piles of sarcastic irritated goo.
Wondering what the Void Dragon's schtick will be. Lore says stuff about the lightning and him using it to zap fools, so no shockers there, but lore also mentions his ability to create virtually indestructable warriors, which suggests buffing abilities too.
Sorry about my ranting. It just feels like this face-off gives people a reason to say: 'Look the new Necrons are so strong (to strong) they won the face-off".
I just hoped to learn anything new from it. The only thing we got from this was that the c'tan we knew we where gonna get ist the void Dragon. They just showed us 2 Modells that we already saw a month ago...
No worries, i get it. But this is basically the best time for Necrons in a long time. Sure they showed two models we've seen before, but only because of a leak and only from a distance. Also we now know that it's the Void Dragon.
One other minor thing I picked up on was that when they described the Skorpkeh Lord's flensing claw in the chat, they said it was a bigger version of what your Flayed Ones have. That says to me that a: Flayed Ones still a thing, so maybe new models? and b. Flayed ones with Ap-1 in melee finally.
Even in the nothing and PR bluster, there is some stuff to be excited about.
We won't know how strong we are until the book comes. Even things that seem bad in isolation could have synergies or upgrades in the book that we don't know about. I think given that we've sucked for almost all of 8th edition, we should try to be optimistic. At the very least, we now have lots of new and interesting ways to suck lol.
2020/07/04 18:28:35
Subject: Re:Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
From War of Sigmar (the building in the upper left is most likely a custom terrain piece for the codex photography - EDIT The arms are off of the old Monolith)):
It also looks like a few kits have been removed from the online store (the Monolith and Necron Warriors).
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2020/07/04 18:39:12
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Wonder if the platform itself is weaponized. The two side towers do look like Tesla weaponry. Bit I can't see anything in particular on the floater throne. But the CTan husk likely is powering something, and two lords are required to control it.
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