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 Vector Strike wrote:
Updated dynasties are awesome

Does anyone know if we'll get custom dynasties? That's what I'd like the most

Custom dynasties are confirmed

New units like the Shard of the Void Dragon and the Silent King himself give you new and terrifying ways to reconquer the galaxy, while rules for custom dynasties and the legendary brass-armoured Szarekhan Dynasty allow for even more choice and freedom.

 Marshal Loss wrote:

 Vector Strike wrote:
Updated dynasties are awesome

Does anyone know if we'll get custom dynasties? That's what I'd like the most

Custom dynasties are confirmed

New units like the Shard of the Void Dragon and the Silent King himself give you new and terrifying ways to reconquer the galaxy, while rules for custom dynasties and the legendary brass-armoured Szarekhan Dynasty allow for even more choice and freedom.

You, sir, made my day! And you're certainly not a punk!

So, I'm reading through Indomitus the novel (kindle book went live after midnight last night).

A fair bit of it is just unit names appearing, much like the Dark Imperium novel showcased stuff for 8th. A plasmancer is one of the main Necron characters, for example. And there are skorpekhs wandering about, with a fair bit on the destroyer cult. (though its... not as interesting as I hoped)

But finally, finally (over half way in), there is some game relevant info. It frequently mentions Destroyers (as in the existing antigrav units) alongside skorpekhs, as well as warriors under the protocol-thrall of the Skorpekh lord. But then there's this bit:

Zozar had only his first tier of skorpekh elites with him – twenty tripodal warriors armed with a variety of long-range energy weapons and dimensional phase blades.

Thorpe, Gav. Indomitus (Warhammer 40,000) (p. 173). Kindle Edition.

Unless Gav is making things up for his own amusement, expect gun armed skorpekhs.
As well as current destroyers


Also the Royal Warden seems part 'Lieutenant' and part Grand Vizier. Definitely not sure if the Lord character will be in the new codex.

 Vector Strike wrote:
Updated dynasties are awesome

Does anyone know if we'll get custom dynasties? That's what I'd like the most

It's right there in the announcement for the new codices...

Codex: Necrons, meanwhile, brings the Necrons to life in terrifying splendour and tactical depth never before seen for the Faction. Rules have been fundamentally reworked to diversify the army and offer a vast range of potential strategies. Want to play a close-combat Necron force? A surging tide of Canoptek critters? A short-ranged incursion force popping out of portals to annihilate everything? The choice is yours. New units like the Shard of the Void Dragon and the Silent King himself give you new and terrifying ways to reconquer the galaxy, while rules for custom dynasties and the legendary brass-armoured Szarekhan Dynasty allow for even more choice and freedom. Take your army on Crusade and things get even crazier as your Necrons grow and change, with Overlords gaining ever-longer Dynastic Epithets (yes, really – there’s a random table) or succumbing to the horror of the Destroyer curse…

 Vector Strike wrote:
Updated dynasties are awesome

Does anyone know if we'll get custom dynasties? That's what I'd like the most

Warhammer community has answer.

while rules for custom dynasties and the legendary brass-armoured Szarekhan Dynasty allow for even more choice and freedom.

Don't get hung up on details in novels.

In the Dark Imperium novels, Gravis armour has forcefields.

Acehilator wrote:
Don't get hung up on details in novels.

In the Dark Imperium novels, Gravis armour has forcefields.

I honestly don't remember that. Everything I saw in the DI novel turned up with a kit.
Except the primaris thunderhawk equivalent, but I don't need or want something on that scale.

He's even taking the time to describe the new scarab wound on 6 ability- it doesn't make sense to just dismiss everything as 'pah, novels'

Voss wrote:

Unless Gav is making things up for his own amusement, expect gun armed skorpekhs.
As well as current destroyers

We never got Destroyers with tesla cannons, Lychguard with ranged weapons/axes/scythe&shield, canoptek fliers, spider-Lords, a giant floaty head with death rays shooting out of it's eyes etc.; so I wouldn't necessarily hold out too much hope...

 Lord Damocles wrote:

Voss wrote:

Unless Gav is making things up for his own amusement, expect gun armed skorpekhs.
As well as current destroyers

We never got Destroyers with tesla cannons, Lychguard with ranged weapons/axes/scythe&shield, canoptek fliers, spider-Lords, a giant floaty head with death rays shooting out of it's eyes etc.; so I wouldn't necessarily hold out too much hope...

This is true, but we do know there's at least another model yet unrevealed on a skorptekh model's base, and it does look like it could be carrying a gun - it definitely has the tubes you'd usually see for a ranged necron. I could see it being real.

 Lord Damocles wrote:

Voss wrote:

Unless Gav is making things up for his own amusement, expect gun armed skorpekhs.
As well as current destroyers

We never got Destroyers with tesla cannons, Lychguard with ranged weapons/axes/scythe&shield, canoptek fliers, spider-Lords, a giant floaty head with death rays shooting out of it's eyes etc.; so I wouldn't necessarily hold out too much hope...

What were those from?

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This one is drilling down to basic details on plasmacytes and the friggin' skeleton on the marine captain's shield.
Seems strange to be overly dismissive when we know for a fact we haven't seen everything yet, let alone which units will get full kits.

Voss wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:

Voss wrote:

Unless Gav is making things up for his own amusement, expect gun armed skorpekhs.
As well as current destroyers

We never got Destroyers with tesla cannons, Lychguard with ranged weapons/axes/scythe&shield, canoptek fliers, spider-Lords, a giant floaty head with death rays shooting out of it's eyes etc.; so I wouldn't necessarily hold out too much hope...

What were those from?

Fall of Damnos, Mephiston: Revenant Crusade, The Infinite Tableau, Devourer, The World Engine, Dark Creed, Kal Jericho: Above and Beyond respectively.

Voss wrote:
So, I'm reading through Indomitus the novel (kindle book went live after midnight last night).

A fair bit of it is just unit names appearing, much like the Dark Imperium novel showcased stuff for 8th. A plasmancer is one of the main Necron characters, for example. And there are skorpekhs wandering about, with a fair bit on the destroyer cult. (though its... not as interesting as I hoped)

But finally, finally (over half way in), there is some game relevant info. It frequently mentions Destroyers (as in the existing antigrav units) alongside skorpekhs, as well as warriors under the protocol-thrall of the Skorpekh lord. But then there's this bit:

Zozar had only his first tier of skorpekh elites with him – twenty tripodal warriors armed with a variety of long-range energy weapons and dimensional phase blades.

Thorpe, Gav. Indomitus (Warhammer 40,000) (p. 173). Kindle Edition.

Unless Gav is making things up for his own amusement, expect gun armed skorpekhs.
As well as current destroyers


Also the Royal Warden seems part 'Lieutenant' and part Grand Vizier. Definitely not sure if the Lord character will be in the new codex.

Could be the hidden model behind the Monolith. It looks like a new sort of Destroyer.

Been combing through the crusade upgrade stuff trying to spot any hints, using an AI rescaler to try and make it readable, though its still really blurry so some words may be off. Could probably reverse engineer it all if I knew the font but whatever, it's not that much more info. Here's a few tidbits which might be interesting, including fluff text in case I mess up the real rules:

Canoptek Units Trait 5-6:
Self-regenerator Nodes
Augmented with advanced matter replication capacitors, these Canoptek constructs can swiftly repair themselves in battle.
Each time you make Reanimation Protocol rolls for this unit, you can change a single dice result to a 6.

I thought that was interesting, as Canoptek units don't have RP and haven't since the 7th ed decurion formation they got. Looks like at least some will!

Cryptek Units Trait 1-2:
Corporeal Integration
This Cryptek has take upon themselves elements of their own technologies with perfect ???
Once per battle, when this model has used its Chronometron, Harbinger of Despair, Harbinger of Destruction or ??? of (Replication/Reanimation?) ability, it can use that ability ????? (probably "one additional time."?)

So, this clearly mentions harbingers and that the chronometron is an ability to be used - maybe like the reanimator you pick a unit to get the 5++? No idea honestly, this one is super hard to read.

Also, Lords are mentioned as a keyword, so they're definitely still around. Eldritch Artifice, readable normally, talks about the technomancer keyword, so I guess we'll have technomancers and plasmancers as the split of Crypteks.

Nothing else new, though the crusade rules look fun for them, they have their own relics, lords/overlords can turn into destroyer cult characters and apparently some table where the more crusade stuff they win, the more they can improve gauss weapons. All very flavourful but not integral to how the army plays in a matched play battle. Still on the fence with crusade TBH, I wish it defaulted to points, but I guess maybe you can rebalance matches using them anyway, just counting power level for the army tracking stuff? Might be fun for pick up games anyway.

From Facebook, a side-by-side comparison of Warp Lightning, Hexwraith Flame and Tesseract Glow:



I've got an old Necron Overlord to experiment on. I believe for the Necron weapons I'm going to try a thinned coat of Warp Lightning over a layered base of Retributor Armour, Auric Armour Gold and Stormhost Silver. For the bright green glowy bits, I'm going to try Tesseract Glow over a layered base of Iron Hands Steel, Stormhost Silver and Vallejo Metal Medium.

 Ghaz wrote:
From Facebook, a side-by-side comparison of Warp Lightning, Hexwraith Flame and Tesseract Glow:

Spoiler:

I've got an old Necron Overlord to experiment on. I believe for the Necron weapons I'm going to try a thinned coat of Warp Lightning over a layered base of Retributor Armour, Auric Armour Gold and Stormhost Silver. For the bright green glowy bits, I'm going to try Tesseract Glow over a layered base of Iron Hands Steel, Stormhost Silver and Vallejo Metal Medium.

Please, post them here!

Starting Necrons as a departure from Aeldari. I finished the 20 Warriors yesterday. Nothing earth shattering, but the kits are fairly specific for fitment. I clipped the first 10 and realized things needed to be matched together; took time. The second batch of 10 went much easier by following the directions.

 Sarigar wrote:
Starting Necrons as a departure from Aeldari. I finished the 20 Warriors yesterday. Nothing earth shattering, but the kits are fairly specific for fitment. I clipped the first 10 and realized things needed to be matched together; took time. The second batch of 10 went much easier by following the directions.

That was quick! Nice one.


I go to pick up my two halves today, so I'm happy.

Im almost done with one indomitus half, then the pain of painting 100 more warriors.

 Ghaz wrote:
A couple of reviews of the new Tesseract Glow paint, from Sword 'n' Steele and Mighty Lancer Games:

Spoiler:

Not sold on that, it doesn't look particularly glowly. Also, Maybe it's the video, or my monitor but the center area where there is very little pigment seems yellowish rather than greenish.

As an aside the necron models in the indomitus box are super fun to put together.

 Grimgold wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:
A couple of reviews of the new Tesseract Glow paint, from Sword 'n' Steele and Mighty Lancer Games:

Spoiler:

Not sold on that, it doesn't look particularly glowly. Also, Maybe it's the video, or my monitor but the center area where there is very little pigment seems yellowish rather than greenish.

As an aside the necron models in the indomitus box are super fun to put together.

Tesseract Glow looks better in my post about six up from this one...

Off the wall thought here, but with the crusade page mentioning chrono-crytpeks, Harbingers of Destruction, and Harbingers of Despair

What are the odds that the mini behind the monolith is in fact a really odd Cryptek, the Harbinger of Despair, he's got the mono eye and everything

Likely wrong, but interesting thought

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
Off the wall thought here, but with the crusade page mentioning chrono-crytpeks, Harbingers of Destruction, and Harbingers of Despair

What are the odds that the mini behind the monolith is in fact a really odd Cryptek, the Harbinger of Despair, he's got the mono eye and everything

Likely wrong, but interesting thought

It looks like he has a few more eyes than one to me...

I might just have bad eyes, but the green ring dot thing looks like one eye to me

 Ghaz wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
Off the wall thought here, but with the crusade page mentioning chrono-crytpeks, Harbingers of Destruction, and Harbingers of Despair

What are the odds that the mini behind the monolith is in fact a really odd Cryptek, the Harbinger of Despair, he's got the mono eye and everything

Likely wrong, but interesting thought

It looks like he has a few more eyes than one to me...

Spoiler:

Yeah almost looks like a ring, or maybe a compound eye, which would go with his extra limbs.

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No surprise that it's the units that are not on the single sprue, at least on the Necron side. I suspect those will be locked to Indomitus for a while.

Still missing where the DDS and Lokhust Destroyer are. Maybe we'll be seeing them sometime soon.

 Sasori wrote:
No surprise that it's the units that are not on the single sprue, at least on the Necron side. I suspect those will be locked to Indomitus for a while.

I imagine the Plasmancer and Cryptothralls and the Canoptek Reanimator from Indomitus will show up in a Start Collecting box at some point.

 Sasori wrote:
Still missing where the DDS and Lokhust Destroyer are. Maybe we'll be seeing them sometime soon.

I expect the Lohkust Heavy Destroyer, Canoptek Doomstalker and the Convergence of Dominion to drop with/near the release of the codex.

 Ghaz wrote:

 Sasori wrote:
No surprise that it's the units that are not on the single sprue, at least on the Necron side. I suspect those will be locked to Indomitus for a while.

I imagine the Plasmancer and Cryptothralls and the Canoptek Reanimator from Indomitus will show up in a Start Collecting box at some point.

Maybe, I those and the Skorpekh Lord are going to be locked to Indomitus for a while, since they all share the same sprue. I think that pic with the DDS may be our new start collecting.

 Sasori wrote:
Still missing where the DDS and Lokhust Destroyer are. Maybe we'll be seeing them sometime soon.

I expect the Lohkust Heavy Destroyer, Canoptek Doomstalker and the Convergence of Dominion to drop with/near the release of the codex.

The weird situation with the Lokhust and DDS is they have points in the CA and are both Easy to Build. I feel like these are coming in some other boxset, but I figured one of them would have been the starter set. That's why I don't think they are coming with the codex drop, or at least were not initially planned to do so.

 Sasori wrote:

Spoiler:

 Ghaz wrote:

 Sasori wrote:
No surprise that it's the units that are not on the single sprue, at least on the Necron side. I suspect those will be locked to Indomitus for a while.

I imagine the Plasmancer and Cryptothralls and the Canoptek Reanimator from Indomitus will show up in a Start Collecting box at some point.

Maybe, I those and the Skorpekh Lord are going to be locked to Indomitus for a while, since they all share the same sprue. I think that pic with the DDS may be our new start collecting.

 Sasori wrote:
Still missing where the DDS and Lokhust Destroyer are. Maybe we'll be seeing them sometime soon.

I expect the Lohkust Heavy Destroyer, Canoptek Doomstalker and the Convergence of Dominion to drop with/near the release of the codex.

The weird situation with the Lokhust and DDS is they have points in the CA and are both Easy to Build. I feel like these are coming in some other boxset, but I figured one of them would have been the starter set. That's why I don't think they are coming with the codex drop, or at least were not initially planned to do so.

Chapter Approved 2019 had points for a Big Mek with Kustom Force Field months before the datasheet came out in Saga of the Beast. It's just Games Workshop being Games Workshop...

They should have really released a downloadable Big mek with KFF pdf. Having to buy an expansion to get the rules for a model which will become obsolete in a few months anyway is a bit gakky.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
They should have really released a downloadable Big mek with KFF pdf. Having to buy an expansion to get the rules for a model which will become obsolete in a few months anyway is a bit gakky.

Umm what model got obsolete? KFF mek is still more than usable. Necron stuff aren't going to become obsolete either.