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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/06/01 18:19:38
Subject: Psychic Awakening: Engine War: Nurgle Stratagem: Rust and Decay.. what is the wound roll considered?
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Nurgle Chosen Marine on a Palanquin
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Rust And Decay (1 CP): In the fight phase a PLAGUEBEARER INFANTRY unit auto hits and wounds on an unmodified to hit roll of 6.
1. I'm assuming the wound roll is considered the lowest possible to cause a wound?
2. Or whatever I want?
3. Or may be its not considered at all? (most likely)
The reason I ask is because you can stack +1 to wound from different sources, and possible get minimum wound rolls that would be 6 or greater and generate additional affects.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/06/01 18:31:43
Subject: Psychic Awakening: Engine War: Nurgle Stratagem: Rust and Decay.. what is the wound roll considered?
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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This would be in that book that’s still on preorder
Maybe wait until people have it. And then til an FAQ of obviously weird.
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Stormonu wrote:For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/06/01 18:41:32
Subject: Psychic Awakening: Engine War: Nurgle Stratagem: Rust and Decay.. what is the wound roll considered?
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Norn Queen
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Sazzlefrats wrote:Rust And Decay (1 CP): In the fight phase a PLAGUEBEARER INFANTRY unit auto hits and wounds on an unmodified to hit roll of 6. 1. I'm assuming the wound roll is considered the lowest possible to cause a wound? 2. Or whatever I want? 3. Or may be its not considered at all? (most likely) The reason I ask is because you can stack +1 to wound from different sources, and possible get minimum wound rolls that would be 6 or greater and generate additional affects.
WARHAMMER 40,000 RULEBOOK Official Update Version 1.6 wrote:Q: Some abilities and Stratagems confer extra bonuses each time a hit roll of, for example, 6+ is rolled. If a weapon has an ability that says ‘this weapon automatically hits its target’, do I still roll the hit rolls for those attacks in the hope of gaining such a bonus? A: No, no hit rolls are made when resolving attacks with such weapons (and so they won’t benefit from such a bonus).
Now, this technically only applies to hit rolls, not wound rolls. However, since it is a clarification (and not changing the RaW) and the wording for "Hit roll" is the same as "Wound roll" barring the wording for determining the target needed, it's safe to say that you won't get any chance to roll a 6+ on the wound roll because it automatically wounds. From the rules as written, since there is no wound roll, you can't ever make a 6+ to wound, ergo no effects that trigger on a 6+ to wound will trigger.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2020/06/01 18:42:06
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/06/01 19:03:39
Subject: Psychic Awakening: Engine War: Nurgle Stratagem: Rust and Decay.. what is the wound roll considered?
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Confessor Of Sins
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There is missing part of the rule there, Sazzlefrats. It says "Do not make a wound roll". The wound has no roll, it just wounded.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/06/05 03:27:11
Subject: Psychic Awakening: Engine War: Nurgle Stratagem: Rust and Decay.. what is the wound roll considered?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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On the plus side, this does mean that these attacks can't be passed off to shield drones, because the FAQ's saviour protocols requires that there be a wound roll; without a wound roll, it doesn't activate.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/06/07 14:45:59
Subject: Psychic Awakening: Engine War: Nurgle Stratagem: Rust and Decay.. what is the wound roll considered?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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yukishiro1 wrote:On the plus side, this does mean that these attacks can't be passed off to shield drones, because the FAQ's saviour protocols requires that there be a wound roll; without a wound roll, it doesn't activate.
Not sure there is no wound roll step in this case, it just automatically succeeds at the wound step.
I would agree with you if the hit roll said something along the lines of automatically does 1 damage, or damage of the weapon used for the attack because that would skip the wound step, however automatically succeeds at the at the wound step isnt the same as it being skipped and not occuring despite the lack of having to roll.
Edit- if alexs post is correct in that it says do not make the wound roll then I would agree with you
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2020/06/07 14:49:53
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/06/07 15:41:09
Subject: Psychic Awakening: Engine War: Nurgle Stratagem: Rust and Decay.. what is the wound roll considered?
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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blaktoof wrote:Edit- if alexs post is correct in that it says do not make the wound roll then I would agree with you
The rust and decay stratagem literally says do not make a wound roll.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/06/07 16:17:36
Subject: Psychic Awakening: Engine War: Nurgle Stratagem: Rust and Decay.. what is the wound roll considered?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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p5freak wrote:blaktoof wrote:Edit- if alexs post is correct in that it says do not make the wound roll then I would agree with you
The rust and decay stratagem literally says do not make a wound roll.
OP didn't qoute that, it was in a later post which I literally commented on in my edit which you literally qouted
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/06/07 16:22:10
Subject: Psychic Awakening: Engine War: Nurgle Stratagem: Rust and Decay.. what is the wound roll considered?
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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blaktoof wrote:
OP didn't qoute that, it was in a later post which I literally commented on in my edit which you literally qouted
Yes, just wanted to confirm.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/06/10 03:17:02
Subject: Psychic Awakening: Engine War: Nurgle Stratagem: Rust and Decay.. what is the wound roll considered?
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Slaanesh Veteran Marine with Tentacles
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C'mon guys, if Tau players didn't have enough to cry about everyone hating on them in the first place.
Jokes aside.
Getting a unit of Plaugebearers into combat against Tau seems like a joke in and of itself. How does this strat help anything other than deepstriking units that get a nice 9+ charge?
Where else can this rule come into conflict with other rules?
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