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2020/06/26 17:11:27
Subject: Marvel and GW present - Marneus Calgar
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Lord Damocles wrote: GaroRobe wrote:Slayer-Fan123 wrote:Well then we need to discuss what's considered "kid friendly". Didn't they actually kill characters in the Adventure series via Necrons? Doesn't seem kid friendly there entirely.
Spoilers for all who care
Although it's also worth noting that the trail of devastation left in the wake of our pre-teen protagonists has almost no effect on them at all, other than one scene where Talen was a tad sad for a bit.
Any normal human would be psychologically ruined by a fraction of what they've cheerfully passed through.
It's the 41st Millennium and they're too young to process it correctly perhaps. Hard to say how preteens would react to those events in today's age, but in 40k that's just another month of Mayhem.
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CaptainStabby wrote:If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.
jy2 wrote:BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.
vipoid wrote:Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?
MarsNZ wrote:ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever. |
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2020/06/27 00:33:00
Subject: Re:Marvel and GW present - Marneus Calgar
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Fixture of Dakka
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Marvel is dying... they have to grab at any straws anyone throws at them at this point.
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At Games Workshop, we believe that how you behave does matter. We believe this so strongly that we have written it down in the Games Workshop Book. There is a section in the book where we talk about the values we expect all staff to demonstrate in their working lives. These values are Lawyers, Guns and Money. |
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2020/06/27 01:23:30
Subject: Re:Marvel and GW present - Marneus Calgar
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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Grot 6 wrote:Marvel is dying... they have to grab at any straws anyone throws at them at this point.
if you think marvel took up the 40k franchise because they figured it might save their comics publishing you're nuts.
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Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two |
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2020/06/27 01:28:36
Subject: Re:Marvel and GW present - Marneus Calgar
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Norn Queen
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BrianDavion wrote: Grot 6 wrote:Marvel is dying... they have to grab at any straws anyone throws at them at this point.
if you think marvel took up the 40k franchise because they figured it might save their comics publishing you're nuts.
They took it because they need anything, literally anything that might turn even the most tiny of profits, having spent the last decade destroying the American comic book industry.
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2020/06/27 02:17:22
Subject: Marvel and GW present - Marneus Calgar
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Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos
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Right? I mean, it's not like Marvel Studios just spent the last decade and a half making literally all the money at the box office.
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2000 Khorne Bloodbound (Skullfiend Tribe- Aqshy)
1000 Tzeentch Arcanites (Pyrofane Cult - Hysh) in progress
2000 Slaves to Darkness (Ravagers)
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2020/06/27 02:23:08
Subject: Marvel and GW present - Marneus Calgar
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Norn Queen
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EnTyme wrote:Right? I mean, it's not like Marvel Studios just spent the last decade and a half making literally all the money at the box office.
You do realise they are separate companies, right? Just because they are both owned by the same parent company (Disney), doesn't magically make the Comic division profitable because the Movie division is raking in the cash. Marvel Studios, LLC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_Studios Marvel Worldwide Inc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_Comics
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2020/06/27 02:34:36
Subject: Marvel and GW present - Marneus Calgar
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Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos
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In the corporate world, that's what's known as "creative accounting". One brand is split up into multiple "corporations" in such a way that one makes a profit and the other operates at a loss. The company that operates at a loss subsidizes the tax burden of the profitable entity. You can't seriously think that Marvel Studios and Marvel Comics are separate to anyone but the IRS?
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2000 Khorne Bloodbound (Skullfiend Tribe- Aqshy)
1000 Tzeentch Arcanites (Pyrofane Cult - Hysh) in progress
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2020/06/27 02:37:41
Subject: Marvel and GW present - Marneus Calgar
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Norn Queen
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EnTyme wrote:In the corporate world, that's what's known as "creative accounting". One brand is split up into multiple "corporations" in such a way that one makes a profit and the other operates at a loss. The company that operates at a loss subsidizes the tax burden of the profitable entity. You can't seriously think that Marvel Studios and Marvel Comics are separate to anyone but the IRS?
Given the fact that one company has almost single-handedly destroyed an entire industry, while the other has printed money with the most safe and generic films you can imagine, yes, I think they have different people calling the shots.
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2020/06/27 02:42:44
Subject: Marvel and GW present - Marneus Calgar
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Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos
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BaconCatBug wrote:Given the fact that one company has almost single-handedly destroyed an entire industry . . .
Oh, I can't wait to hear this. Though since you tried to link to Arch Warhammer earlier, I can probably predict why you think it was Marvel that "destroyed" the comic book industry.
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2000 Khorne Bloodbound (Skullfiend Tribe- Aqshy)
1000 Tzeentch Arcanites (Pyrofane Cult - Hysh) in progress
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2020/06/27 02:54:41
Subject: Marvel and GW present - Marneus Calgar
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Charing Cold One Knight
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I really think Salamanders would have been a much better choice. That would let the artists be able to create really neat art with their ornately crafted weapons, use of fire/scales, and that they actually care about the people of their homeworld making it easier to show the human/post-human stuggles and ideas of how the Astartes view regular humans.
That cover just looks so generic right now, besides people already a fan of 40k, don't really imagine somebody seeing that and thinking it is cool.
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2020/06/27 03:02:20
Subject: Marvel and GW present - Marneus Calgar
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Member of a Lodge? I Can't Say
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NH Gunsmith wrote:I really think Salamanders would have been a much better choice. That would let the artists be able to create really neat art with their ornately crafted weapons, use of fire/scales, and that they actually care about the people of their homeworld making it easier to show the human/post-human stuggles and ideas of how the Astartes view regular humans.
That cover just looks so generic right now, besides people already a fan of 40k, don't really imagine somebody seeing that and thinking it is cool.
I'm not the biggest Ultramarine fan, but they are portrayed as working well with their human auxiliary and caring about them. Not the same as Salamanders of course, but they're not as aloof as a lot of chapters.
Agreed on the cover though, it's just okayish.
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I prefer to buy from miniature manufacturers that *don't* support the overthrow of democracy. |
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2020/06/27 03:21:16
Subject: Re:Marvel and GW present - Marneus Calgar
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Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade
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It'll be funny if this series generates some new fans for Marneus who find out after a quick search that he's out of action for having one of his hearts ripped out.
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2020/06/27 03:31:35
Subject: Marvel and GW present - Marneus Calgar
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Maybe split the tangent about the dying comic book industry into Off Topic or Geek Media? I’m pretty sure that there’s entertainment value to be had there, but I don’t want this thread locked until we get some blurry potato-cam pics of truly Liefeldian interior artwork.
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2020/06/27 04:40:50
Subject: Re:Marvel and GW present - Marneus Calgar
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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ArcaneHorror wrote:It'll be funny if this series generates some new fans for Marneus who find out after a quick search that he's out of action for having one of his hearts ripped out.
You think he's been put out of action perminatly? he just got an expensive new model, GW's not going to bench him forever
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Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two |
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2020/06/27 05:34:10
Subject: Marvel and GW present - Marneus Calgar
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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It's amazing what a coat of Nuln Oil can do for a miniature:
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2020/06/27 05:58:24
Subject: Marvel and GW present - Marneus Calgar
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Dakka Veteran
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Eh, the sun still shines in the future. Grimdark doesn't specifically mean the palette used.
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2020/06/27 06:11:43
Subject: Re:Marvel and GW present - Marneus Calgar
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Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade
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BrianDavion wrote: ArcaneHorror wrote:It'll be funny if this series generates some new fans for Marneus who find out after a quick search that he's out of action for having one of his hearts ripped out.
You think he's been put out of action perminatly? he just got an expensive new model, GW's not going to bench him forever
Not permanently, but as of the moment, that's the reality of the situation. I'm sure it'll change soon.
Kayback wrote:Eh, the sun still shines in the future.
Many forge worlds would say otherwise.
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2020/06/27 06:19:44
Subject: Marvel and GW present - Marneus Calgar
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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It's just the cover. What matters is the art inside.
Personally, I'd prefer black & white, like the old Conan comics or Deff Skwadron.
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2020/06/27 06:44:02
Subject: Re:Marvel and GW present - Marneus Calgar
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Dakka Veteran
South Africa
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ArcaneHorror wrote:
Kayback wrote:Eh, the sun still shines in the future.
Many forge worlds would say otherwise.
And void battles, battles inside hives or a myriad of different places but not everywhere is under a miasma of dark atmospheres.
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2020/06/27 06:47:27
Subject: Marvel and GW present - Marneus Calgar
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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BaconCatBug wrote: EnTyme wrote: BaconCatBug wrote:Given the fact that one company has almost single-handedly destroyed an entire industry . . .
Oh, I can't wait to hear this. Though since you tried to link to Arch Warhammer earlier, I can probably predict why you think it was Marvel that "destroyed" the comic book industry.
They made products no-one wanted, did not hire the best writers and/or artists, and told the people who actually bought their product that they were bad people by virtue of immutable characteristics, which meant they stopped buying their product.
Yeah, I'm sure DC's 52 Crises on Infinite Crisis had nothing to do with that.
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2020/06/27 06:52:30
Subject: Marvel and GW present - Marneus Calgar
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Rampaging Khorne Dreadnought
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as if I needed more confirmation that I didn't like their recent style...like night and day...jebus
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2020/06/27 06:54:30
Subject: Marvel and GW present - Marneus Calgar
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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Roknar wrote:
as if I needed more confirmation that I didn't like their recent style...like night and day...jebus
this isn't GW's style though this is marvel.
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Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two |
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2020/06/27 08:28:10
Subject: Marvel and GW present - Marneus Calgar
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Fireknife Shas'el
Lisbon, Portugal
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H.B.M.C. wrote:It's amazing what a coat of Nuln Oil can do for a miniature:
Nah, the right one is too dark for Marvel
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AI & BFG: / BMG: Mr. Freeze, Deathstroke / Battletech: SR, OWA / HGB: Caprice / Malifaux: Arcanists, Guild, Outcasts / MCP: Mutants / SAGA: Ordensstaat / SW Legion & X-Wing: CIS / WWX: Union
Unit1126PLL wrote:"FW is unbalanced and going to ruin tournaments."
"Name one where it did that."
"IT JUST DOES OKAY!"
Shadenuat wrote:Voted Astra Militarum for a chance for them to get nerfed instead of my own army. |
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2020/06/27 08:48:06
Subject: Marvel and GW present - Marneus Calgar
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Charing Cold One Knight
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Once that image is darkened up, it looks far better.
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2020/06/27 09:01:30
Subject: Marvel and GW present - Marneus Calgar
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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You think Marvel is bright and cheery? When Hydra wiped a city off the map, and heroes were searching for survivors, it was the teen group who found the airport intact and got hopeful, only to discover the planes had been microwaved full of passengers. There were no survivors.
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2020/06/27 09:08:35
Subject: Marvel and GW present - Marneus Calgar
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Posts with Authority
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The 40K product has been covered in mud and blood and premade effects so now it's grimdark and therefore better.
Does... does anyone else see this?
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2020/06/27 10:13:26
Subject: Marvel and GW present - Marneus Calgar
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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See what? That it looks like the 40K we're used to?
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2020/06/27 10:45:42
Subject: Marvel and GW present - Marneus Calgar
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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More likely, that photoshop doth covers many sins. There are much gakkier illustrators over there making a living just by obscuring the pencils with lots of gak.
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2020/06/27 12:00:36
Subject: Marvel and GW present - Marneus Calgar
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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2020/06/27 13:05:02
Subject: Marvel and GW present - Marneus Calgar
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Big Daddy Calgar Arriving To Wreck Thanos’ gak
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