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While I am glad it seems like DKoK are still going to be supported through 9th, I'm a bit disheartened at the number of lines FW killed over the course of 8th. Ultimately when the models go, the rules normally follow.

FW seems to be gearing up for a bit of a shake after the 9th edition indexes hit. Lots of models have been disappearing over the last few weeks and I wouldn't be surprised if my two ranges (Mechanicum and DKoK) begin to disappear as we eventually move into 10th.

Such a shame to see Elysians and R&H go. R&H in particular were loads of fun to play against in a fluffy/narrative games. I am quietly confident that R&H will get more plastic models going forward - GW seem to have played with them a bit in Blackstone Fortress. Elysians I just can't see ever coming back unfortunately, which is a shame as my first two FW kits were a 10 man elysian squad and a resin Valkyrie.

   
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 Adeptus Doritos wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
Bsf guard wd yeah possible, but also a Poor consolation


Btw still heard nothing.


I agree.

Honestly I'd like a more mixed Chaos Army. Like where you could run a mob of Cultists or Traitors led by a single Chosen in the squad.

Though honestly? In Kill-Team, playing Servants of the Abyss is actually fun. Not super-effective, but fluffy fun.


SoA are indeed quite Fun in kt, and i Love my stubcarbine cultist leader, allways performs above and beyond.

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A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.  
   
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Not Online!!! wrote:
SoA are indeed quite Fun in kt, and i Love my stubcarbine cultist leader, allways performs above and beyond.


Um, excuse me, that's "Gatrina" and she's an angel.

Mob Rule is not a rule. 
   
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 Adeptus Doritos wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
SoA are indeed quite Fun in kt, and i Love my stubcarbine cultist leader, allways performs above and beyond.


Um, excuse me, that's "Gatrina" and she's an angel.

It costs 400 '000$ to fire gatrina for 12 seconds.

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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.  
   
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I know in the previous MFM the corsair points weren't in their own section, but were merged into the FW section for Eldar - has it been confirmed this isn't the case this time around?

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 Kanluwen wrote:
This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.

Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...

tneva82 wrote:
You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... 
   
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 Dysartes wrote:
I know in the previous MFM the corsair points weren't in their own section, but were merged into the FW section for Eldar - has it been confirmed this isn't the case this time around?

Not to my knowledge, the issue is, where do you Find r&h since last time they Ended up in the IG book .

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.  
   
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Corsairs got new points thou, how are they squated?

   
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Anyone have any updates?
   
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Biloxi, MS USA

DeathKorp_Rider wrote:
Anyone have any updates?


The only updates on this anyone is going to get is when the new Indexes are released. GW has no care or reason to address this because it's about OOP models they don't sell.

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Chuffing heck - R&H gone?...sons of bitches.

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 Platuan4th wrote:
DeathKorp_Rider wrote:
Anyone have any updates?


The only updates on this anyone is going to get is when the new Indexes are released. GW has no care or reason to address this because it's about OOP models they don't sell.

And they've gone silent on those new Indexes.

So, has anyone gotten anything besides the stock "check rules, roll dice" response from gw? That's all I've gotten.
   
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They never respond to mails, but they definitely read them.

They literally copy&pasted my Typhus question into the War of the Spider FAQ

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7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks do not think that purple makes them harder to see. They do think that camouflage does however, without knowing why.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. 
   
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 Jidmah wrote:
They never respond to mails, but they definitely read them.

They literally copy&pasted my Typhus question into the War of the Spider FAQ


Hope remains.

allbeit they really could actually start commenting on such questions...

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.  
   
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The dark hollows of Kentucky

 Jidmah wrote:
They never respond to mails, but they definitely read them.

They literally copy&pasted my Typhus question into the War of the Spider FAQ

I had a similar experience. I only got the boiler plate response to my repeated questions on why the Hellforged super heavys didn't have relentless like all other super heavys, then suddenly the rule was erated in the fall FAQ. Doesn't make their lack of response less aggravating.
   
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maybee we should ask them WTF they smoked with the field manual pts....
Aswell as in general is up with FW....

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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.  
   
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During the stream when they were asked about the previewed FW book, they mentioned that they had pulled teams from FW 40k and moved them specialist games because their FW chapter and another line I can't remember weren't selling.

Most of the reasons why there were FW models for 40k in the first place have disappeared nowadays - large centerpiece models, super-heavies and awesome characters are now done in plastics, and design space for "moar tanks" has disappeared over the years with GW inflating codex choices. The one thing GW hasn't done themselves are large titans.

I think what we are looking at right now is GW slowly unwinding FW for 40k until all of the models have run out of print. Something like that would be very unwise to communicate officially.

I just hope that they create a proper Codex: Traitor Guard to replace what was lost.

7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks do not think that purple makes them harder to see. They do think that camouflage does however, without knowing why.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. 
   
Made in ch
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Vice versa this situation right now isn't better for them.

Open and transparant communication goes a long way for custommer relations aswell.

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.  
   
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Not Online!!! wrote:
Vice versa this situation right now isn't better for them.

Open and transparant communication goes a long way for custommer relations aswell.


Unless your goal is to con people into buying expensive resin that you no longer plan to support.

7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks do not think that purple makes them harder to see. They do think that camouflage does however, without knowing why.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. 
   
 
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