US Army may name new armored vehicle after 40K unit...

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**godswildcard**

My first N&R post! Huzzah!

https://warisboring.com/us-army-may-name-air-defense-vehicle-after-warhammer-40k-armored-unit/

The army is considering naming an air defense vehicle after the...

...Drumroll please!...

Manticore!

They even cite 40K as the inspiration for the name.

Now, I wonder if GW will C&D the US Army?

Edit: spelling!

**BobtheInquisitor**

That’s kind of worrisome. I hope they realize 40k has no good guys, and don’t take the wrong kind of inspiration.

**Sterling191**

Naming military hardware after mythical creatures or entities is hardly a new development. Nor is 40k the only 'verse in which the Manticore is a tank.

**Adeptus Doritos**

BobtheInquisitor wrote:
That’s kind of worrisome. I hope they realize 40k has no good guys, and don’t take the wrong kind of inspiration.

You laughed at the 'Space Force'. Well, now those filthy Xenos out there better get ready to get some Freedom.

I'm joking, of course. And I wouldn't worry about 'taking the wrong inspiration', because generally speaking most people aren't mentally defective enough to emulate the fiction from a tabletop toy game.

Of note, though: In the US, there's a FLGS not far from every base- usually more than one. US Military is full of nerds.

**Carnikang**

BobtheInquisitor wrote:
That’s kind of worrisome. I hope they realize 40k has no good guys, and don’t take the wrong kind of inspiration.

I wouldn't worry about it.

We should only start to worry if they name something after the Leman Russ and cram a bunch of tank crew into something resembling a pot-bellied oven with a turret.

**Lord Damocles**

Crewman in image doesn't have chainsword.
Worst tank ever.

**cuda1179**

Drive me closer so I can K-bar them!!!

**Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl**

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**Gadzilla666**

Not really a first is it? I mean we already have the Raptor.

**Jerram**

Adeptus Doritos wrote:
BobtheInquisitor wrote:
That’s kind of worrisome. I hope they realize 40k has no good guys, and don’t take the wrong kind of inspiration.

You laughed at the 'Space Force'. Well, now those filthy Xenos out there better get ready to get some Freedom.

I'm joking, of course. And I wouldn't worry about 'taking the wrong inspiration', because generally speaking most people aren't mentally defective enough to emulate the fiction from a tabletop toy game.

Of note, though: In the US, there's a FLGS not far from every base- usually more than one. US Military is full of nerds.

Speaking of space force, there was a FLGS inside the exchange at Peterson last time I was there. Heck there's like 4 in the springs itself.

**Platuan4th**

Jerram wrote:
Adeptus Doritos wrote:
BobtheInquisitor wrote:
That’s kind of worrisome. I hope they realize 40k has no good guys, and don’t take the wrong kind of inspiration.

You laughed at the 'Space Force'. Well, now those filthy Xenos out there better get ready to get some Freedom.

I'm joking, of course. And I wouldn't worry about 'taking the wrong inspiration', because generally speaking most people aren't mentally defective enough to emulate the fiction from a tabletop toy game.

Of note, though: In the US, there's a FLGS not far from every base- usually more than one. US Military is full of nerds.

Speaking of space force, there was a FLGS inside the exchange at Peterson last time I was there. Heck there's like 4 in the springs itself.

Does Tank still run it? That store has been around for like 10 years now.

**Jerram**

No idea, I was just TDY there a few years ago so just happened to see it.

**Kid_Kyoto**

Seriously anyone who sees the word Manticore and thinks of 40k before myth needs some perspective.

If DoD names this tank a Manticore it'll be because a Manticore is a monster that shoots out spikes, basically the same logic that led GW to name their fictional tank a Manticore.

**Albertorius**

Sterling191 wrote:
Naming military hardware after mythical creatures or entities is hardly a new development. Nor is 40k the only 'verse in which the Manticore is a tank.

Yeah, I mean...

https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Manticore

**Kid_Kyoto**

Jerram wrote:

Speaking of space force, there was a FLGS inside the exchange at Peterson last time I was there. Heck there's like 4 in the springs itself.

Man our PX sucks.

**Cronch**

BobtheInquisitor wrote:
That’s kind of worrisome. I hope they realize 40k has no good guys, and don’t take the wrong kind of inspiration.

We are talking about organization that promoted controller giveaways on twitch, linking you to website where you signed up to be contacted by enlistment and that's it (no actual controller giveaway mentioned anywhere when you gave your data)...

**Insurgency Walker**

BobtheInquisitor wrote:
That’s kind of worrisome. I hope they realize 40k has no good guys, and don’t take the wrong kind of inspiration.

But Tau!......lol. I once was at some war training room somewhere and I saw this young Warrent Officer building model tanks. On duty. I joked that he had the best job ever, and he looked up kind of conspiratorially and said. "Shhhh. Don't tell anyone I like doing this. It's not supposed to be fun". He did admit that building 120 Russian tanks of the same kit became boring but he just alternated the kits after a bit. Funniest thing was he wasn't a war gamer or model builder before being posted to that position as a props curator of sorts. I don't remember the official title but he got caught up by the model bug and had started playing Battle Tech.

**Platuan4th**

Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Jerram wrote:

Speaking of space force, there was a FLGS inside the exchange at Peterson last time I was there. Heck there's like 4 in the springs itself.

Man our PX sucks.

It used to be a Gamestop until AAFES started pushing their GameZone in the Exchange. The Gamestop moved out and a game store moved in. It was basically MtG only until Tank took over.

**beast_gts**

Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Seriously anyone who sees the word Manticore and thinks of 40k before myth needs some perspective.

If DoD names this tank a Manticore it'll be because a Manticore is a monster that shoots out spikes, basically the same logic that led GW to name their fictional tank a Manticore.

Someone posted a link to the survey here a few days ago (Link). There's a column with the meaning of the name, and another ("Mil/Civ System w/Name") for background - that's the one that mentions Warhammer.

**Kid_Kyoto**

beast_gts wrote:
Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Seriously anyone who sees the word Manticore and thinks of 40k before myth needs some perspective.

If DoD names this tank a Manticore it'll be because a Manticore is a monster that shoots out spikes, basically the same logic that led GW to name their fictional tank a Manticore.

Someone posted a link to the survey here a few days ago (Link). There's a column with the meaning of the name, and another ("Mil/Civ System w/Name") for background - that's the one that mentions Warhammer.

Ah got it. Still not 'naming that tank after warhammer' it's noting the name is in use already so people can choose with that awareness.

Kinda like noting that the name Enterprise has meanings and implications beyond WWII aircraft carrier.

Manticore
A legendary animal with the head of a man, the body of a lion, and the tail of a dragon or scorpion
Fictional missile launching tank in the game Warhammer

**Symbio Joe**

If thiswas quality online journalism and not a forum post I would call it clickbait.

**BrianDavion**

Kid_Kyoto wrote:
beast_gts wrote:
Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Seriously anyone who sees the word Manticore and thinks of 40k before myth needs some perspective.

If DoD names this tank a Manticore it'll be because a Manticore is a monster that shoots out spikes, basically the same logic that led GW to name their fictional tank a Manticore.

Someone posted a link to the survey here a few days ago (Link). There's a column with the meaning of the name, and another ("Mil/Civ System w/Name") for background - that's the one that mentions Warhammer.

Ah got it. Still not 'naming that tank after warhammer' it's noting the name is in use already so people can choose with that awareness.

Kinda like noting that the name Enterprise has meanings and implications beyond WWII aircraft carrier.

Manticore
A legendary animal with the head of a man, the body of a lion, and the tail of a dragon or scorpion
Fictional missile launching tank in the game Warhammer

the fact that they even mention warhammer 40k though is pretty intreasting. they don't for example mention the manticore tank from battletech, at the very least it's a sign of our hobby having some cultural reach

**Kid_Kyoto**

Symbio Joe wrote:
If thiswas quality online journalism and not a forum post I would call it clickbait.

Kind of like those science articles with the headlines "astronomers discover Vulkan/Krypton/Whatever". Which is certainly more clicky than "astronomers find another ex-planet which we will never ever be able to travel to but which is kinda sorta near where Vulkan might be according to some Star Trek novels maybe".

It is interesting that Warhammer (in this very narrow and specific context of naming weapon systems) is considered worth mentioning. And that Warhammer is considered worth putting in a headline to lure clicks.

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And just for giggles:

Star Wars
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Manticore

Star Trek
https://sto.gamepedia.com/Manticore_Heavy_Destroyer

Marvel
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Manticore_(Criminal)_(Earth-616)

DC
https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Manticore

But none are missile tanks so the Warhammer and Battletech tanks are the closest matches that might cause confusion if the name were used by DoD.

**BaconCatBug**

Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Symbio Joe wrote:
If thiswas quality online journalism and not a forum post I would call it clickbait.

Kind of like those science articles with the headlines "astronomers discover Vulkan/Krypton/Whatever". Which is certainly more clicky than "astronomers find another ex-planet which we will never ever be able to travel to but which is kinda sorta near where Vulkan might be according to some Star Trek novels maybe".

It is interesting that Warhammer (in this very narrow and specific context of naming weapon systems) is considered worth mentioning. And that Warhammer is considered worth putting in a headline to lure clicks.

Reminds me of all the "Kryptonite is REAL!" clickbait articles from 10 years ago when they found a mineral that vaguely matched a comic description of Kryptonite.

**Fayric**

I thought US military usually named their tanks after famous generals and war heroes.
Perhaps they think it safer to name it after mythological monsters in this day and age.

**Skinnereal**

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**Stormonu**

Fayric wrote:
I thought US military usually named their tanks after famous generals and war heroes.
Perhaps they think it safer to name it after mythological monsters in this day and age.

Britain did that to our tanks

There are things though like the M10 "Wolverine" tank destroyer, but somewhat rare.

**beast_gts**

Fayric wrote:
I thought US military usually named their tanks after famous generals and war heroes.
Perhaps they think it safer to name it after mythological monsters in this day and age.

The suggested names are:

Artemis
The Greek moon goddess often portrayed as a virgin huntress
USN class attack cargo ship; NASA spaceflight program to land an astronaut on the moon; 2017-present

Banshee
A female spirit in Gaelic folklore whose appearance or wailings warns a family that one of them will soon die.
USMC aircraft; 1948-1961

Defender
One that defends; a player in a sport (such as football) assigned to a defensive position
Land Rover (British) off-road vehicle

Manticore
A legendary animal with the head of a man, the body of a lion, and the tail of a dragon or scorpion
Fictional missile launching tank in the game Warhammer

Marauder
One who roams from place to place making attacks and raids
South African recon/peacekeeping vehicle (akin to an MRAP); 2008-present

Stout
Named for MoH awardee SGT Mitchell Stout
None

Valkyrie
One of a host of female figures who choose those who may die in battle and those who may live.
Experimental USAF Drone; 2018-present
Experimental USAF Strategic Bomber; 1964-1969

Vigilante
A member of a volunteer committee organized to suppress and punish crime summarily (as when the process of law are view as inadequate).
USN aircraft; 1958-1979

So there's a bit of a mix there...

**Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl**

Skinnereal wrote:
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Ahah, I spot a fellow connoisseur!