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This is not a drill, dinosaur riders!

Ranger Outrider.

There's a tease of something for each faction, also this exciting news:

In addition to the Cadres, we’ll be seeing some exciting new heroes and solos, and we have a quartet of new nefarious Wild Cards available as premium rewards for backing the project. But what’s got us most excited right now is The Thousand Worlds sourcebook that we’ll be offering alongside the new Cadres. The book will collect all of the existing Warcaster lore into one place while diving deep into each Faction and the history of the Hyperuranion. The Thousand Worlds has also given us an opportunity to work with one of our favorite collaborators, Aeryn Rudel, who is contributing ten fantastic stories to the book that will truly flesh out this exciting new setting.

Cannot. Wait.

Darn it that's a cool model! Though the Empyrains are getting some cool air units to strike fast and hard!

That is a very chonky boi.

Finallly got to play in person last night and really enjoyed it. The little skirmish table meant we could play on a single card table at the shop and it was quick, tense and really decision intensive. Ultimately I lost by one point, stopping my opponent from scoring an objective on turn 1, but losing momentum turn 2 and when the objectives are worth an extra point. A couple key plays would have made all the difference, and putting effort into contesting is pretty vital.

Heavies feel a little OP, but they suck up all your resources so you can't really spam them. Squads are kind of weak but their movement, while kind of abusive feeling makes them quick in an otherwise slow game and vital for grabbing objectives. My opponent did a great job robbing me of momentum by killing my solos and draining my support as well. All in all, pretty solid stuff. Looking forward to more.

Not a fan of the Everblight cavalry but I can see why they want to make them more distinct from the other factions.

 Arbitrator wrote:
Not a fan of the Everblight cavalry but I can see why they want to make them more distinct from the other factions.

I think they tried to hard to make the energy lines stand out when they chose the paint schemes for the game. The number of people I've had mention that all the factions look the same, only to show them Marcher Worlds with a scheme that better separates the cloth and armor has sold the sculpts to a lot of people that were previously disappointed.

 LunarSol wrote:
Finallly got to play in person last night and really enjoyed it. The little skirmish table meant we could play on a single card table at the shop and it was quick, tense and really decision intensive. Ultimately I lost by one point, stopping my opponent from scoring an objective on turn 1, but losing momentum turn 2 and when the objectives are worth an extra point. A couple key plays would have made all the difference, and putting effort into contesting is pretty vital.

Heavies feel a little OP, but they suck up all your resources so you can't really spam them. Squads are kind of weak but their movement, while kind of abusive feeling makes them quick in an otherwise slow game and vital for grabbing objectives. My opponent did a great job robbing me of momentum by killing my solos and draining my support as well. All in all, pretty solid stuff. Looking forward to more.

Playing PP's recent games like Warcaster and Riot Quest are my go toos. Simple, sleek, and deep strategy. I have seen people who are not into wargames at all really enjoy these.

You can run on for a long time, run on for a long time. Sooner or later Infernals gonna hunt you down. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePG-T_Y8kcM


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In a galaxy far far away, Protectorate of Menoth rolls strong. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMUMJozHc98

Next Kickstarter's up on the 13th.

Free Wildcard if you pledge within the first 48 hours.

The Cadres look great. Probably not going all in on the source book and solos required for the early bird. The Wildcard would be more enticing, but there's already quite a few of them to pick from.

Absolutely loving the game right now though. Playing regularly, but the Cadres look to inject some significant variety. My biggest issue at the moment is there's not a lot of value in different jack loadouts where the majority of list variety sits. Expanding unit types should remedy that nicely.

Those cadres look decent, I'm getting the Aeternus Continuum one, the golem unit should be bringing something interesting to the table even without the Cadre considerations.

Honestly I think the system they've designed will really shine with a medium to large range of models. It's really a neat trick to basically sideboard in what you need and the style of "if it dies you can bring it on again". Means that some of the "it must kill what it costs in points" goes out the window as a theory. It's still important, but now a whole new rafter of sacrificial tactics opens up. You can sacrifice units, you might even be encouraged too; similarly your opponent might be discouraged just wiping out your units without a thought.

There's a lot of added flexibility in the system and I really hope it gets translated over to Warmachine at some stage as I think it could be the breath of fresh air it needs; and again I think it really shines at allowing a tactical skirmish game to remain just that; whilst also supporting a big diverse model range.

One of the absolute hardest aspects of the game to wrap my head around has just been the inversion on what it means to "protect" a model.

In most games, you try to hide valuable stuff. In Warcaster, that's really only true of Hero models. Everything else returns when its dead and in some ways, is more valuable dead than it is alive but out of position or somehow incapacitated, even if that's just having an activation token on it. Killing 2/3 squad members leaves the remaining figure pretty useless and you can do the same thing to quite a few figures.

At the same time, so much of the game is about denying your opponent access to objectives. The main thing you have to do is put your models places where your opponent is forced to kill them. Putting all 3 squad members in a contesting position guarantees they can't be ignored. It makes the game naturally aggressive in a way I really didn't expect.

I like the rules quite a bit, and the models are better than ok, but the lack of player base where I am at made getting into it a bad move for me though. The starter boxes were pretty decent for getting going IMO.

New games typically need people who have at least two starter armies, terrain and a good understanding of the rules coupled with a big desire to do demo games and such to get people into the game.

You've got to become a GW staffer in style and a salesperson if you want new games to kick off locally

One thing that helps a LOT is that Skirmish mode is really good, arguably better than the full game. 2 starter boxes is actually a completely viable Skirmish army (probably want to add a hero solo) or a starter and a few of the newer options (heavy warjack, vehicle, a couple solos). It's a lot quicker to jump into than I expected from the first KS release.

 thekingofkings wrote:
I like the rules quite a bit, and the models are better than ok, but the lack of player base where I am at made getting into it a bad move for me though. The starter boxes were pretty decent for getting going IMO.

Best thing to do is buy 2 starter forces and demo day. Even doing solo games are bringing a friend that you can learn how to play with and do learn how to play demos at the store. As always make you demo forces are fully painted to help generate interest

There's also an official scenario in this packet that only uses 6 units (battlebox +2) that's great for intro games or just pretty fun in general.

https://home.privateerpress.com/first-contact/

marxlives wrote:

 thekingofkings wrote:
I like the rules quite a bit, and the models are better than ok, but the lack of player base where I am at made getting into it a bad move for me though. The starter boxes were pretty decent for getting going IMO.

Best thing to do is buy 2 starter forces and demo day. Even doing solo games are bringing a friend that you can learn how to play with and do learn how to play demos at the store. As always make you demo forces are fully painted to help generate interest

The store did that, unfortunately thats when most interest dried up :( I have 3 starters (this was before empyreans)

Sadly iv not seen or heard of anyone playing the game here in the UK. Most of the big stores don't seem to have anything in stock. You can order it but its very limited actually available.

The only UK FB page I could find for it has 67 members and only 4 posts in the past few months. Maybe im missing something?

But they are pushing out yet another kickstarter with updated rules. Not sure this is really going the way they want it to.

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Firestorm Games tends to have pretty good stock - shortages are likely a mix of PP issues but also most likely Corona just being a pain along with the global postage issues.

Sunno wrote:
Sadly iv not seen or heard of anyone playing the game here in the UK. Most of the big stores don't seem to have anything in stock. You can order it but its very limited actually available.

The only UK FB page I could find for it has 67 members and only 4 posts in the past few months. Maybe im missing something?

But they are pushing out yet another kickstarter with updated rules. Not sure this is really going the way they want it to.

The first Kickstarter had the unfortunate honour of launching when the pandemic started taking off in the West. By the time the models were out, most of the world was still under harsh restrictions/lockdowns. It hasn't really had a chance to breathe yet, but to say they're on their third Kickstarter it must not be doing too badly all things considered.

PP stuff hasn't done too well in the UK since 8th 40k, so the poor showing on this side of the pond isn't too surprisingly unfortunately. Legion and MCP seems to have gobbled up most of the "will try non-GW games" audience now but as far as I can tell Warmahordes still has a smaller but loyal showing State-side and Warcaster seems to get a much stronger showing there.

Yea, not having a poke at anyone personally, but im not sure those sorts of explanations and/or excuses really stand up much anymore.

Other companies, Wyrd, CB, Goblin King etc have all launched product lines during this time and had none of the issues, lack of engagement or ridicule from the wider wargaming community/social/media. And that's all before you get to GW.

And I know GW is a different scale of beast but similar and smaller companies seem to be having no issues with exposure, store relationships, engagement etc.

I only say this and point it out because I WANT PP to get/be/do better.

At the same time most of those other games were already established games in the market prior to corona hitting. They already had customers wanting their product when the shutdowns and problems hit.


Warcaster wasn't out, people hadn't played it before things shut down and the world went nuts.


So that compounds things when PP already had some issues of their own on top. Heck postal systems are insane right now with fees going up and delivery times going up, esp for international shipments. Indeed I've seen several companies having to eat big shipping increases or scale back expansion or other investment plans because of those rising costs - some of which are simply because there's no container to put their stuff on to move it around.


PP had issues before and resolving them is very important, its just really the worst time to try and resolve them when they aren't flush with cash right now. I do want PP to get better - I like their sculpts and I want to see them rise up back to their old powerful position in the market.

Sunno wrote:
Yea, not having a poke at anyone personally, but im not sure those sorts of explanations and/or excuses really stand up much anymore.

Other companies, Wyrd, CB, Goblin King etc have all launched product lines during this time and had none of the issues, lack of engagement or ridicule from the wider wargaming community/social/media. And that's all before you get to GW.

And I know GW is a different scale of beast but similar and smaller companies seem to be having no issues with exposure, store relationships, engagement etc.

I only say this and point it out because I WANT PP to get/be/do better.

The UK's gaming scene has barely had weeks to play in stores, at least legally. Restrictions around game stores were extremely strict because they fell into only one category removed from nightclubs - a shop nearby opened up just before lockdown and the council came down on them for reimplementing gaming until the last month or so. Some clubs out of community centres were able to eek a few weeks before the second lockdown. It hasn't been like the US where gaming resumed within a few months.

The comparison to Malifaux and Infinity isn't really fair because those games are established and will've had plenty of people wanting to get back to playing their old favourites before trying something completely new. There's been zero time or opportunity for people to grow any sort of Warcaster scene/community even among surviving Warmahorde players because unfortunately those things do take time.

If anything we should be impressed that PP has managed to run these KS and deliver on them in good time in general during the pandemic when international shipping/postage is a nightmare and where even materials or just having staff to come to work has been a challenge.


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ALSO KS starts TOMORROW

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/privateerpress/warcaster-the-thousand-worlds


I (or if someone else gets there first) will start a new news thread on this when it goes live

Visually I'm still torn between Marcher Worlds and ISA. I love the MW infantry but hate their Warjacks and vice versa for ISA. The latest Kickstarter MW designs look like GI Joe toys, being so crammed with oversized guns whilst the totally-not-Exemplar-Bastions are calling to me.

 Arbitrator wrote:
Visually I'm still torn between Marcher Worlds and ISA. I love the MW infantry but hate their Warjacks and vice versa for ISA. The latest Kickstarter MW designs look like GI Joe toys, being so crammed with oversized guns whilst the totally-not-Exemplar-Bastions are calling to me.

Oddly enough for me, I love the dusk wolf (not so keen on the strike raptor) for the marchers, but not a fan of the firestar. but even the models i dont favor are still pretty good imo.

It's up. Already funded.

The Marcher Worlds stuff looks a lot better painted. Bit disappointed the new Solos are addons rather than being included in the already pricey War Chief pledge.