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 Oaka wrote:
I imagine the worst possible outcome in it being a Harlequin codex. Technically Xenos; no new models needed; has White Dwarf rules like Deathwatch that need to be consolidated; doing pretty well in 9th so needs to be revised.

Surprised they haven't scheduled Deathwatch and Harlequins together, as they seem similar in that small-but-elite way and of course their White Dwarf rules.

I hope it is Harlequins but got a feeling it will be Drukhari as a model has already been teased in one of the previous previews.

SamusDrake wrote:

So if your favourite army isn’t mentioned above, don’t worry, you won’t have long to wait until you get your incredible new codex. This is set to be an exciting time for fans of every faction in the 41st Millennium

Well, if its only two codices a month being released then some players are going to be waiting a long time for their codex.

Not at all. (Assuming they actually do 2/month until they're done). Past January, there are 17 more books (not including Inquisition, Assassins and lumping Sisters of Silence into Custodes, which they seem inclined to do anyway. Even if you DO want to count them, an 'Imperial Agents' makes 18). They'd be done by next October.

Full run in a year is absurdly fast.

Voss wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:

So if your favourite army isn’t mentioned above, don’t worry, you won’t have long to wait until you get your incredible new codex. This is set to be an exciting time for fans of every faction in the 41st Millennium

Well, if its only two codices a month being released then some players are going to be waiting a long time for their codex.

They'd be done by next October.

I'm probably miscounting somewhere, but there appears to be 30 hardback codices currently on the GW site. I'm not counting the WD-factions like Sisters of Silence, Inquisition or Ynnari.

Wouldn't that be 20 books going forward from January?

That's including the existing Marine supplements like Imperial Fists, White Scars etc. It's not clear if those are getting replaced - if they are, it's certainly not going to be for a looooong time yet, probably towards the end of the edition I would wager.
Of course, even if you include those, going at the rate of 2 a month would still mean being done in 2021.

Oh, fair enough.

Looks like you're right, Voss.

SamusDrake wrote:
Oh, fair enough.

Looks like you're right, Voss.

Yeah, I wasn't counting the marine supplements. Even GW would have a hard time justifying new books to accommodate less than 2 pages of errata each.

Once Dark Angels are done, they really need to let loyalist marines sit in a corner for at least a couple years.

Voss wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:
Oh, fair enough.

Looks like you're right, Voss.

Yeah, I wasn't counting the marine supplements. Even GW would have a hard time justifying new books to accommodate less than 2 pages of errata each.

Once Dark Angels are done, they really need to let loyalist marines sit in a corner for at least a couple years.

"Here you go kiddies, we gave you Mario karts, go play for a bit. We'll come back and steal your pocket money in 15 months time"

Voss wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:
Oh, fair enough.

Looks like you're right, Voss.

Yeah, I wasn't counting the marine supplements. Even GW would have a hard time justifying new books to accommodate less than 2 pages of errata each.

Once Dark Angels are done, they really need to let loyalist marines sit in a corner for at least a couple years.

Ohh you sweet summer child

There will be a new wave of Marine releases in the New Year. Personally as its inevitable, I would like to see Chapter Serfs but I think its unlikely as these would have been great for some of the recent Marine gun platforms/vehicles rather than having each one manned by a Marine or even more stupidly an actual Tech Marine....

Be quite nice for the neglected Chapters to get the odd new unit now and again rather than yet more Wolves and Angels.

Thought it was a bit strange that they released all those new Marine sups last year only to drop 9th now. I suppose like the PA series they were written with 9th in mind.

 Super Ready wrote:
That's including the existing Marine supplements like Imperial Fists, White Scars etc. It's not clear if those are getting replaced - if they are, it's certainly not going to be for a looooong time yet, probably towards the end of the edition I would wager.
Of course, even if you include those, going at the rate of 2 a month would still mean being done in 2021.

Gw being gw you　can bet they redo those. Marine books sell.

2 books a month? Unlikely that holds. Didn't hold in 8e and that needed codexes fast more than 9e does.

 Mr Morden wrote:


Be quite nice for the neglected Chapters to get the odd new unit now and again rather than yet more Wolves and Angels.

Goodness gracious, no! Market research at GW suggests that furries and sparkling-vampires are still all the rage with marine players!

SamusDrake wrote:

 Oaka wrote:
I imagine the worst possible outcome in it being a Harlequin codex. Technically Xenos; no new models needed; has White Dwarf rules like Deathwatch that need to be consolidated; doing pretty well in 9th so needs to be revised.

Surprised they haven't scheduled Deathwatch and Harlequins together, as they seem similar in that small-but-elite way and of course their White Dwarf rules.

I hope it is Harlequins but got a feeling it will be Drukhari as a model has already been teased in one of the previous previews.

These giant threads are so hard to find information in...
Do you have a link to the pic of the Drukhari model?

 Mr Morden wrote:

Voss wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:
Oh, fair enough.

Looks like you're right, Voss.

Yeah, I wasn't counting the marine supplements. Even GW would have a hard time justifying new books to accommodate less than 2 pages of errata each.

Once Dark Angels are done, they really need to let loyalist marines sit in a corner for at least a couple years.

Ohh you sweet summer child

There will be a new wave of Marine releases in the New Year. Personally as its inevitable, I would like to see Chapter Serfs but I think its unlikely as these would have been great for some of the recent Marine gun platforms/vehicles rather than having each one manned by a Marine or even more stupidly an actual Tech Marine....

Be quite nice for the neglected Chapters to get the odd new unit now and again rather than yet more Wolves and Angels.

Define new year, if you mean January I think you're being a little ambitious there.

angryboy2k wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:

 Oaka wrote:
I imagine the worst possible outcome in it being a Harlequin codex. Technically Xenos; no new models needed; has White Dwarf rules like Deathwatch that need to be consolidated; doing pretty well in 9th so needs to be revised.

Surprised they haven't scheduled Deathwatch and Harlequins together, as they seem similar in that small-but-elite way and of course their White Dwarf rules.

I hope it is Harlequins but got a feeling it will be Drukhari as a model has already been teased in one of the previous previews.

These giant threads are so hard to find information in...
Do you have a link to the pic of the Drukhari model?

Crikey its been a while...

https://spikeybits.com/2020/07/lelith-hesperax-new-dark-eldar-model-hidden-in-plain-sight.html

...looking forward to this one myself!

Both Start Collectings for Death Watch and Space Wolf Primaris are "sold out online." And since both are getting Codexes next month, I imagine we'll get new variants of the SC. Shame, since I imagine the deathwatch one will be more primaris focused, despite the current lack of dedicated DW models (unless they get a new conversion set )

 Oaka wrote:
I imagine the worst possible outcome in it being a Harlequin codex. Technically Xenos; no new models needed; has White Dwarf rules like Deathwatch that need to be consolidated; doing pretty well in 9th so needs to be revised.

do you really want a codex that needs a massive influx of new models? given this codex will come on the heels of a massive necron and space marine release (the marines will likely be stretched out until january given past precident) I doubt the january xenos 'dex will have much new. Didn't they preview a hint of a new Ork mini?if so an Ork dex seems likely. assuming ragnar gets an independant release in november alongside space wolves' supplement, Ghaz'll need a release soonish after. and a release with 2 new characters would be well.. something.

SamusDrake wrote:


Crikey its been a while...

https://spikeybits.com/2020/07/lelith-hesperax-new-dark-eldar-model-hidden-in-plain-sight.html

...looking forward to this one myself!

Thanks!

Now to track down that new Death Guard figure...
(I guess Spikey Bits is good for this!)

You're welcome!

angryboy2k wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:


Crikey its been a while...

https://spikeybits.com/2020/07/lelith-hesperax-new-dark-eldar-model-hidden-in-plain-sight.html

...looking forward to this one myself!

Thanks!

Now to track down that new Death Guard figure...
(I guess Spikey Bits is good for this!)

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/09/12/the-codex-show/

 Mr Morden wrote:

Voss wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:
Oh, fair enough.

Looks like you're right, Voss.

Yeah, I wasn't counting the marine supplements. Even GW would have a hard time justifying new books to accommodate less than 2 pages of errata each.

Once Dark Angels are done, they really need to let loyalist marines sit in a corner for at least a couple years.

Ohh you sweet summer child

There will be a new wave of Marine releases in the New Year. Personally as its inevitable, I would like to see Chapter Serfs but I think its unlikely as these would have been great for some of the recent Marine gun platforms/vehicles rather than having each one manned by a Marine or even more stupidly an actual Tech Marine....

Be quite nice for the neglected Chapters to get the odd new unit now and again rather than yet more Wolves and Angels.

Oh I still half-suspect the Outriders will get a real box when the DA supplement rolls around. Given how long its taking to get to the new SM multi-part kits we know are coming, maybe the storm speeders as well. I just don't expect GW to plow through the 'codex standard' chapter supplements anytime soon.

Actually, per the Pendulum Swing approach to game design, I'll actually be surprised if they don't outright abandon the supplements at the end of 9th or beginning of 10th, and come up with an even worse idea.

GaroRobe wrote:Both Start Collectings for Death Watch and Space Wolf Primaris are "sold out online." And since both are getting Codexes next month, I imagine we'll get new variants of the SC. Shame, since I imagine the deathwatch one will be more primaris focused, despite the current lack of dedicated DW models (unless they get a new conversion set )

It may just be a reboxing, for the new logos and box style.
I would think we'd have seen a glimpse of something if SW/DW were getting new things.

The current DW upgrade frame says its 10 shoulder pads for SM and 2 for Terminators, but everything is on primaris models, including the 'terminator' pads on aggressors and inceptors. I suspect they're sticking with that.

 Ghaz wrote:

angryboy2k wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:


Crikey its been a while...

https://spikeybits.com/2020/07/lelith-hesperax-new-dark-eldar-model-hidden-in-plain-sight.html

...looking forward to this one myself!

Thanks!

Now to track down that new Death Guard figure...
(I guess Spikey Bits is good for this!)

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/09/12/the-codex-show/

And thank you, too!
It's a great-looking model but I kinda wish it wasn't an HQ choice. The Death Guard has an enormous variety of models across the range (especially adding in the third series of Space Marine Heroes) but I still feel I'd get more excited about a few more poses for say, Blightlord or Deathshroud Terminators.

angryboy2k wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

angryboy2k wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:


Crikey its been a while...

https://spikeybits.com/2020/07/lelith-hesperax-new-dark-eldar-model-hidden-in-plain-sight.html

...looking forward to this one myself!

Thanks!

Now to track down that new Death Guard figure...
(I guess Spikey Bits is good for this!)

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/09/12/the-codex-show/

And thank you, too!
It's a great-looking model but I kinda wish it wasn't an HQ choice. The Death Guard has an enormous variety of models across the range (especially adding in the third series of Space Marine Heroes) but I still feel I'd get more excited about a few more poses for say, Blightlord or Deathshroud Terminators.

that'd require a new kit which would, honestly be kinda a waste.

angryboy2k wrote:
It's a great-looking model but I kinda wish it wasn't an HQ choice. The Death Guard has an enormous variety of models across the range (especially adding in the third series of Space Marine Heroes) but I still feel I'd get more excited about a few more poses for say, Blightlord or Deathshroud Terminators.

Unfortunately, with the exception of Typhus, none of the newer Deathguard HQ options are currently on sale.

Lord of Contagion w/Plaguereaper? OOP thanks to the Dark Imperium going away.
Lord of Contagion w/Manreaper? OOP thanks to Lord Felthius going away.
Malignant Plaguecaster? OOP thanks to Dark Imperium going away (and the one from the Heroes set is super rare, and also not on sale).

Deathguard are left with their resin Daemon Prince, and Chaos Lords/Sorcerers, none of whom get the Death Guard special rules because they're not Death Guard models, but generic Chaos Space Marine models (the Deathguard Codex being one of those places where no model = no rule is shown to its most stark and illogical conclusion).

They're in a sorry state, and need more than some new bloke with a toxin sprayer to fix them.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Lord of Contagion w/Plaguereaper? OOP thanks to the Dark Imperium going away.
Lord of Contagion w/Manreaper? OOP thanks to Lord Felthius going away.
Malignant Plaguecaster? OOP thanks to Dark Imperium going away (and the one from the Heroes set is super rare, and also not on sale).

Deathguard are left with their resin Daemon Prince, and Chaos Lords/Sorcerers, none of whom get the Death Guard special rules because they're not Death Guard models, but generic Chaos Space Marine models (the Deathguard Codex being one of those places where no model = no rule is shown to its most stark and illogical conclusion).

They're in a sorry state, and need more than some new bloke with a toxin sprayer to fix them.

I didn't actually consider that. I actually have all the Death Guard models released since Dark Imperium in the somewhat embarrassing condition of NIB/NOS and I'm super excited about "one day" having an entire army of models that are all individuals. It didn't really sink in that a whole bunch had just gone OOP.

Re the Codex tease, am I being too optimistic with wondering if the 'and more!' in red means that the actual tease could be hinting at more than one codex in January? Ergo the true reveal.

Assuming it's the Dark Angels Supplements (which won't be a big release) there would definitely be room for another actual codex release in addition to the Xeno codex.


Also note that those who have signed off on it being DA already, I thought they said that DA would be coming early next year, not necessarily first...

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

angryboy2k wrote:
It's a great-looking model but I kinda wish it wasn't an HQ choice. The Death Guard has an enormous variety of models across the range (especially adding in the third series of Space Marine Heroes) but I still feel I'd get more excited about a few more poses for say, Blightlord or Deathshroud Terminators.

Unfortunately, with the exception of Typhus, none of the newer Deathguard HQ options are currently on sale.

Lord of Contagion w/Plaguereaper? OOP thanks to the Dark Imperium going away.
Lord of Contagion w/Manreaper? OOP thanks to Lord Felthius going away.
Malignant Plaguecaster? OOP thanks to Dark Imperium going away (and the one from the Heroes set is super rare, and also not on sale).

Deathguard are left with their resin Daemon Prince, and Chaos Lords/Sorcerers, none of whom get the Death Guard special rules because they're not Death Guard models, but generic Chaos Space Marine models (the Deathguard Codex being one of those places where no model = no rule is shown to its most stark and illogical conclusion).

They're in a sorry state, and need more than some new bloke with a toxin sprayer to fix them.

Seems like it may be a good time to do a run of the Dark Imperium Deathguard for a badly needed Start Collecting Box.

Yea, it's dark Eldar. Especially if GW is teasing

 alextroy wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

angryboy2k wrote:
It's a great-looking model but I kinda wish it wasn't an HQ choice. The Death Guard has an enormous variety of models across the range (especially adding in the third series of Space Marine Heroes) but I still feel I'd get more excited about a few more poses for say, Blightlord or Deathshroud Terminators.

Unfortunately, with the exception of Typhus, none of the newer Deathguard HQ options are currently on sale.

Lord of Contagion w/Plaguereaper? OOP thanks to the Dark Imperium going away.
Lord of Contagion w/Manreaper? OOP thanks to Lord Felthius going away.
Malignant Plaguecaster? OOP thanks to Dark Imperium going away (and the one from the Heroes set is super rare, and also not on sale).

Deathguard are left with their resin Daemon Prince, and Chaos Lords/Sorcerers, none of whom get the Death Guard special rules because they're not Death Guard models, but generic Chaos Space Marine models (the Deathguard Codex being one of those places where no model = no rule is shown to its most stark and illogical conclusion).

They're in a sorry state, and need more than some new bloke with a toxin sprayer to fix them.

Seems like it may be a good time to do a run of the Dark Imperium Deathguard for a badly needed Start Collecting Box.

didn't we get some start collecting last december? including IIRC SC Primaris Vanguard? I could see know no fear being divided into two start collecting boxes. I could also see the two halfs of DI being used to make christmas battle forces. (

 alextroy wrote:
Seems like it may be a good time to do a run of the Dark Imperium Deathguard for a badly needed Start Collecting Box.

It's be an easy non-release release for the new DG Codex: A bunch of models that aren't actually new, but can be bought individually for the first time ever.

Hexmarks are already sold out in the US. I was not expecting that for sure.