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Repentia post good numbers of the offense, but I don't really know any unit that can actually trade tit-for-tat at their price with marines except marines.

Orks have got it pretty good with massed killsaws.

IIRC a mob of five nobs with dual saws kills their points worth of intercessors on average in a round of combat. They have pretty reliable delivery systems via tellyporting, jumping and the various transport options as well, and I didn't factor in any exploding did for Goffs or DS rerolls.

Meganobs don't quite make their points back but will definitely earn their points value back a few times over thanks to their durability.

Smasha guns absolutely ruin multi wound, lower toughness models as well and are dirt cheap.

 Afrodactyl wrote:


IIRC a mob of five nobs with dual saws kills their points worth of intercessors on average in a round of combat. They have pretty reliable delivery systems via tellyporting, jumping and the various transport options as well, and I didn't factor in any exploding did for Goffs or DS rerolls.

Meganobs don't quite make their points back but will definitely earn their points value back a few times over thanks to their durability.

5 nobz with dual killsaws cost exactly like 4 meganobz with the same wargear. They have +4 attacks (average of 2 hits) but meganobz can rely on a stratagem that makes their killsaws damage 3 which is signficant against anything that isn't 2W or maybe 4W (with no FNP). In that scenario 4 meganobz will get more points back than the 5 nobz, tipycally meganobz outperform nobz by a large margin, but the latter is still a viable option of course. Meganobz can also hit on 3s if Tin 'Eadz.

New heavy intercessors seem tailor made for regular marine murdering.

Anyone and Anything Holding a Heavy Bolter

*AdMech cries in Heavy Stubber*

Just played a game against Necron, he used the new datasheet for the Pratoreons. They wiped out a 10 man Primaris Intercessor squad in 1 turn. 2 dmg on shooting and attack is deadly.

 Alwrath wrote:
Just played a game against Necron, he used the new datasheet for the Pratoreons. They wiped out a 10 man Primaris Intercessor squad in 1 turn. 2 dmg on shooting and attack is deadly.

But Praetorians have no inv. save and we don't know about the new RP.
I'd be careful to integrate them in a Necron army atm.

Custodian Guard with Spears and Superior Fire Patterns?

 wuestenfux wrote:

 Alwrath wrote:
Just played a game against Necron, he used the new datasheet for the Pratoreons. They wiped out a 10 man Primaris Intercessor squad in 1 turn. 2 dmg on shooting and attack is deadly.

But Praetorians have no inv. save and we don't know about the new RP.
I'd be careful to integrate them in a Necron army atm.

Hes been playing Necron's since 3rd edition, he has too many models. He basically can field anything he wants.