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Lot of winning going on here! The poles look great with their banner, definitely the right choice to give the Captain one too. I’d be all nerves with the flames on his gear, but it’s best just to go for it, yellow is easy to fix right?!? If you want a banner pole for the Dread I might have a spare one of those too, but i can’t recall whether I was going to use it or not. I’ll check tomorrow if I think on.

The Cheshire Cat really is looking creepy, he’d work well in the Halloween theme monthly comp!

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 gobert wrote:
Lot of winning going on here! The poles look great with their banner, definitely the right choice to give the Captain one too. I’d be all nerves with the flames on his gear, but it’s best just to go for it, yellow is easy to fix right?!? If you want a banner pole for the Dread I might have a spare one of those too, but i can’t recall whether I was going to use it or not. I’ll check tomorrow if I think on.

The Cheshire Cat really is looking creepy, he’d work well in the Halloween theme monthly comp!

I'll give the flames a go either tonight or tomorrow, and actually the yellow isn't too bad to fix. I basecoat with Averland Sunset which seems to actually cover, unlike a lot of yellow paints. Thanks for the offer of the banner, I've got a banner top in the post already and some brass rod to make the upright.

So I seem to have been busy the last few days, so this is quite a long (and eclectic) update.

I think I've finished the Cheshire Cat, or at least for now:

There's probably some tidying up to be done on him, but he's going to make his way into the cabinet for the moment as I'm happy with how he looks.

I also finished up the World Eaters, with their very quick and dirty paint job:

My aim was to get them to a table-top standard as I've got something else in the works for World Eaters, and with rumours of new Chaos next year, I didn't want to spend too much time on these guys. I might try and hide the worst of my crimes by drowning them in Agrax Earthshade and a quick highlight, but they look okay from table-top distance at the moment.

And as I was painting some Chaos anyway, I decided to paint this guy who was standing around in my "he's awesome but I don't have an army for him" pile:


He was really fun, so I might look at getting him some mates to be the CSM combat patrol.

I also got back to work on my 3D printer, to make some 32mm base adapters for the Blood Angels so that they can be used in 9th:


Having started as a modern combat patrol the oldhammer bug has bitten me so I've got some more reinforcements for my Blood Angels. I've got 9 death company marines who are currently being stripped, and these guys:


There is actually a plan behind the madness of getting more Blood angles, as there is a very specific target I'm looking at, which all of these (bar the limited ed. captain) work into. I wonder if anyone can figure it out

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Recreating the old GW studio army?

Cheshire rules. Love seeing those ancient scouts, too.
   
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 youwashock wrote:
Recreating the old GW studio army?

Cheshire rules. Love seeing those ancient scouts, too.

Close, but not quite. I'm not sure exactly what was in the studio army, whilst my project has a definite list. I'm guessing my project is going to be a part of the studio army though. Certainly their was a painted version of everything for an official photo.

I gave the flames a go:

Not only on the captain, but on the flamer and missile launcher based on the 2nd edition main box artwork (which CthulhuDawg uploaded a really good quality a while ago):


I've also done the company markings. I didn't have any third company (White teardrop) transfers, but I had loads of second company (yellow teardrop), so I put the second company ones on, and then painted them white. You can see the result on the devastator. I think it works well, and really helps me when I can't get the shape right freehanding (as I wanted the 20 I've had to do to match). Just the squad markings on the kneepads and then they're done.

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So I got the scouts mostly done, but as always when I take a photo and see the model 5 inches tall I find bits that need tidying up

Apparently 2 bolt pistols on the sergeant was a legal loadout in 2nd ed, but I'm not sure he can fire them both at the same time .
Also the guy second from the right supposedly has a "bolter" according to the catalogues I've found him in, but I've never seen a bolter with plasma coils, so as far as I'm concerned he's got a plasma gun, which whilst legal in 2nd ed, isn't in 9th . I do have a sixth (unpainted) scout, and an old plastic scout heavy bolter, so he may be getting his arm taken off so that I can swap out the plasma gunner for modern games.

I got the Death Company stripped, and think I have enough arms and era appropriate weapons, but then realised my super glue has died so I've ordered some more which should be here on the weekend. At least it might give me the push to work on one of the other combat patrols instead of more Blood Angels...

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Good job you found a banner, as mines gone AWOL! I’m not sure what the plan is, maybe to recreate an army used in the BatRep that Tycho first appeared in? That Captain is such a cool model, I might have to look him up on eBay and hope the cost put me off! The flames came out great and love that you’ve matched the other guys in the art work. Will your Devs be getting helmet markings too?

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 gobert wrote:
Good job you found a banner, as mines gone AWOL! I’m not sure what the plan is, maybe to recreate an army used in the BatRep that Tycho first appeared in? That Captain is such a cool model, I might have to look him up on eBay and hope the cost put me off! The flames came out great and love that you’ve matched the other guys in the art work. Will your Devs be getting helmet markings too?

It's always annoying when bitz go AWOL. I was lucky enough to get the captain at games day, so paid retail price. I've tried not to look online for him as then I might have decided to sell him rather than do this army...
I might go back and give the devastators helmet (and shoulder trim) markings like the artwork, I just need to find more designs so it's not just three of them.

I wasn't aiming at the batrep for Tycho, although it looks like I'll only be a rhino short of that list, so there may be a tank in my future...
What I'm aiming for is this:

When I started as a kid these were epic boxes that I couldn't hope to afford, and after I realised that a tactical squad, devastator squad and dreadnought make up about half the models, I felt it was too good a target for me to pass up. (I've also noticed there was an eldar one, and my current force makes up a good chunk of that too...)

As such I've done a bit of work over the weekend, although not managed to get anything finished
My Dreadnought has a banner pole (but no banner yet):

The scout with heavy bolter is mostly done, a bit of tidying and the base needs finished:

Tycho and the death company have both been started:


And base adapters for them and the final 5 guys have been created and mostly painted:


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Macragge

Just found this project. You're doing great on those blood angels! I like the captain and the dreadnought especially. Excited to see more.

   
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 brushcommando wrote:
Just found this project. You're doing great on those blood angels! I like the captain and the dreadnought especially. Excited to see more.

Glad you like them! As you want to see more, here's Tycho:


And some Death Company to accompany him:


That just leaves the terminators (which are currently getting their paint stripped) to finish up the original box! I might have to see if I can work out some similar terrain for a photo.

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Macragge

Death Company and Tycho turned out great! How are you doing the banners? Are they hand-painted or some kind of print outs? Either way, I love the character they add to the models.

   
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I did quite a few different ways to get the different banners, all are painted to an extent, with the numbers and most of the black lining is done with a Staedler 0.05 pigment liner.
A quick breakdown:
  • Squad leaders (red with black symbol) are just painted red with a black transfer from the vehicle transfer sheet.

  • Sergeants (black with red symbol) were traced from an actual banner and painted

  • Captain was free-handed to match his shoulder pad

  • Tycho and Death Company are print outs that I've then had to paint and outline, as my printer is terrible

  • Like this terrible:

    The banners I've done are not perfect, especially if you look closely in the photos (the skull on Tychos banner is questionable, and don't zoom in on the death company one ). I think they've turned out okay, even if they are a bit rough in places. I'm never going to be an 'Eavy Metal painter, but they stand up from table-top distance, which is the important thing for me, and also they're mine

    Now I've just got the dreadnought's banner, and the terminator squad (plus banner).

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    This continues to be a delightful trip down memory lane. Bring on those Terminators!
       
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     youwashock wrote:
    This continues to be a delightful trip down memory lane. Bring on those Terminators!

    Glad you are enjoying it! I've managed to get the old paint off the terminators, the base coat sprayed on and some texture paint for basing done:


    I would have got more done however I got a little side-tracked because if I really want to make the photo work, and with the deadline for Armies on Parade finishing in under two weeks, then I kind of need some scenery:

    And yes, I currently have rainbow filament in my printer so there is a nice colour change as it builds My wife said it looks like Elsa's castle from Frozen...
    The only slight problem is I got my measurements wrong, and it's just over half the scale I need it
    Fortunately it should be easy enough to scale it up, and if gives me a change to go back and change some details.

    The good news is if I don't get it finished for this year's Armies on Parade, they'll only become more classic for next year!

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    What you are saying is, if you don't make it in time you are willing to...let it go?

    Awesome idea to replicate even the terrain from old picture.
       
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    Macragge

    You can do it! You're making great progress on those minis. I don't think I realized before that this was for armies on parade. I sort of skimmed and thought that the army box was a random collection goal you chose. But given how fast you're cranking those out I think you can still make the deadline.

       
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    youwashock wrote:What you are saying is, if you don't make it in time you are willing to...let it go?

    Awesome idea to replicate even the terrain from old picture.

    Groan! . But you’re wife is right MST, it is a bit frozen-esque! The idea is absolutely fantastic and it’s awesome that you’re nearly there, looking at it I probably have most of the minis for my BAs too… I’m just nowhere near as fast at painting as you! Keep the nostalgias coming, especially with those Terminators!



    Don’t suppose you have the stl for the building?

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    youwashock wrote:What you are saying is, if you don't make it in time you are willing to...let it go?

    Awesome idea to replicate even the terrain from old picture.


    I'm glad you like the idea, and I do enjoy a good pun!

    brushcommando wrote:You can do it! You're making great progress on those minis. I don't think I realized before that this was for armies on parade. I sort of skimmed and thought that the army box was a random collection goal you chose. But given how fast you're cranking those out I think you can still make the deadline.


    It wasn't planned for armies on parade, but as it's close to done and if I can get it finished by the end of the month I can get it entered online, although I doubt I'll win anything with the frankly amazing entries I see. There's also one of my local GW stores running an event in the middle of November, so I might take it in for that as there'll be a lot fewer people.

    gobert wrote:
    youwashock wrote:What you are saying is, if you don't make it in time you are willing to...let it go?

    Awesome idea to replicate even the terrain from old picture.

    Groan! . But you’re wife is right MST, it is a bit frozen-esque! The idea is absolutely fantastic and it’s awesome that you’re nearly there, looking at it I probably have most of the minis for my BAs too… I’m just nowhere near as fast at painting as you! Keep the nostalgias coming, especially with those Terminators!



    Don’t suppose you have the stl for the building?


    As I built it myself in tinkercad I do have the STL
    I've just made it public, so you should be able to access it here (please can someone let me know if linking to it isn't allowed, I think it should be fine as I made it):
    https://www.tinkercad.com/things/ce8S1spQTDJ
    I've done some tinkering with it. but it'll probably still need rescaling to get it the right size, I haven't had a chance to finish it, I've been too busy painting some terminators


    They're still a WIP, the weapons and chapter markings need working on, as does the banner pole (and banner...) but I think the bodies are pretty much done, as I did them before I attached the arms to let me get at the details more easily.
    Hopefully I can get them done on Friday and Saturday and that'll leave Sunday for terrain! I'm pretty sure I'll need to head to a DIY store to pick up some foam to make the hill for the photo, and I've got some barrels and crates kicking around and that'll be it done. Nothing like a mad rush to enter competitions at the last minute

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    Macragge

    The Terminators looks great.Classic blood angels scheme is one of my favorites especially on TDA. Excited to see the final army shot.

       
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     brushcommando wrote:
    The Terminators looks great.Classic blood angels scheme is one of my favorites especially on TDA. Excited to see the final army shot.

    The blood angels scheme really does suit them, I think they've turned out quite nicely:

    Still got the shield for the sergeant, and the banner.
    I've got an original(ish) banner (cut out of a white dwarf or codex, not a sticker), however it's seen better days, and as all the other banners are hand painted, I'm going to try this:

    Although I'm a bit sceptical as it's a lot more detailed than previous ones. I may have to simplify it.
    I've also got the outline of the dreadnought banner:

    As he's going to be third company (so white squad number rather than yellow) I've decided he's not going to be "Furioso" as that's the second company dread, so I need a something else to go on the banner. I'm tempted to try and fit Sanguinius, but I'm not sure It'll squeeze in, (and S's are hard to paint...). Anyone got a better idea?

    Also I've been working on an upgrade for the building, and it's printing away now, so if anyone is planning on printing one (gobert) then if you hold off I'll see how well the new one comes out and update the STL.

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    I'm really enjoying your work, the mixture of old and new models plus your modeling creativity is extremely fun. The way you used the space wolves backpack posts to denote squads is a great touch and that Blood angel captain exactly captures the box art, impressive work.

    If you're looking for back banner suggestions that don't tread on already printed ones I'd suggest Gehenna or Tartarus to keep in the hell/damnation themes.

    Are you planning to run an old verse new fight club kind of tournament? That would be kind fun to see best of the old vs best of the new in a series of mini matches, plus seeing those storm guardians match against primaris space wolves would be a great picture

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    Macragge

    For the banner title, I'd suggest something short, like Baal or Hades. The blood angels were at Armageddon I think, so you could draw some kind of connection to an action near Hades hive or somesuch...

       
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    ValhallanWinter wrote:I'm really enjoying your work, the mixture of old and new models plus your modeling creativity is extremely fun. The way you used the space wolves backpack posts to denote squads is a great touch and that Blood angel captain exactly captures the box art, impressive work.

    If you're looking for back banner suggestions that don't tread on already printed ones I'd suggest Gehenna or Tartarus to keep in the hell/damnation themes.

    Are you planning to run an old verse new fight club kind of tournament? That would be kind fun to see best of the old vs best of the new in a series of mini matches, plus seeing those storm guardians match against primaris space wolves would be a great picture

    Tartarus sounds good, and doesn't have too many letters with curves in, so I may well give that a go!
    My plan wasn't so much a old vs new, I was just going to do a knock out tournament of the 32 (if I finish them) Combat Patrols, although I could probably set it up so that none of the older armies fight each other in the first round. I'll make sure the Space Wolves and Eldar are paired up in the first round so that I can get some photos!

    brushcommando wrote:For the banner title, I'd suggest something short, like Baal or Hades. The blood angels were at Armageddon I think, so you could draw some kind of connection to an action near Hades hive or somesuch...

    With the dimensions of the scroll I think Baal and Hades might be a bit short, Furioso is 7 letters, so I think 6-7 is probably the sweet spot.

    So I left my 3d printer going overnight, and had my first print failure
    The Bowden tube managed to detach itself during the night, so the filament instead of getting fed into the extruder, just fed out into the enclosure for my printer, so I had quite a mess to clean up. Fortunately I could feed the filament back through the extruder to reuse it, but I got the joy of spending 20 minutes carefully rerolling the filament, before working out where the print failed to be able to restart it. Fingers crossed it's not going to be too bad when I put the parts together at the end, but it's looking much better scale wise already:

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    I hate it when the printer fails, but at least it didn’t waste filament by extruding it all in to a big blob!

    The DC and Terminators look great, and the banners are looking great even before their paint.

    Good luck restarting the print

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     gobert wrote:
    I hate it when the printer fails, but at least it didn’t waste filament by extruding it all in to a big blob!

    The DC and Terminators look great, and the banners are looking great even before their paint.

    Good luck restarting the print

    I must admit I'm glad it didn't waste filament or gum up the printer, it could have been much worse.
    So I tried restarting the print. I measured the height, checked the layer number, made sure it looked okay on the STL. I edited the gcode following some instructions on the internet to start at the right level, made sure I left the heat settings in, removed the homing/leveling...
    Or so I thought. The printer didn't home the X or Y axis, but then decided to rehome the Z axis through the existing print, making some horrible grinding noises and melting/bending bits of the print before I could get it turned off.
    So I've cut up the STL at the appropriate level and have it printing the top half, and I'll just glue it together. Might not be as neat in the end, but I should be able to cover some of the worst of it when adding texture. Fortunately it didn't seems to damage the printer.

    On a happier note, I got the banners done, and that means my Blood Angels army is done! Or as done as any army ever is (I might have another 15 tactical marines waiting a paint strip to make a legitimate 9th ed Battalions...).

    To give people a better view on my process for the banners, I took step by step photos. I last left everyone with these images that I had traced out:

    After that I go and block in the main colours, much like painting models. I find I need to keep the first layer of paint thicker as the paper is absorbent, and if you water your paints appropriately for models it can waterlog the paper. The main aim is to get the colours in the right places, you don't need to be perfect about the neatness.

    After that take a fine pigment pen (as they are waterproof(ish...)) and go around and do the outlines. This is where you can neaten up any sloppyness.

    You can also go back and paint over the pen if you make a mistake and then reline it.
    The last step is to glue it to the model. I find it easiest to lay the model on their back so the banner pole hangs off the edge of the table (careful not to knock them off ), and then attach the banner, as that lets me get easier access to the banner pole and saves me holding the model whilst I try and do it. The old model of citadel painting handles (the angular ones) are great for holding the smaller models when it's laying down as they don't roll, and give it some extra weight and length on the table.
    The end result is:


    Once I get an army shot, that'll be 15 Combat Patrols done. I've got Tyranids and Orks awaiting a painting, and a squad for Chaos Space Marines (although I still need to add 10 raptors).
    I might cheat a bit with one of the imperial Combat Patrols though. I'm not a massive fan of Tempestus Scions, who I added to fill out the Imperium team of the 32, so I might switch their combat patrol out for a (not officially valid) Officio Assassinorum Combat Patrol, because to be honest, I think it would be a lot more fun seeing what 5 assassins could do to a normal combat patrol army that some fancy guardsmen...

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    Macragge

    Wow. Those banners turned out great. Thanks for the step by step, although I doubt I'll be confident enough to ever try that.

       
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    That dread and terminator look great! Glad the banner suggested worked, freehanding curves must be a nightmare, lol. The old blood angels color scheme is looking excellent, I always liked the terminators with red shoulder pads. You never saw Blood angel terminators much in later additions, outside of the Space Hulk ones, I guess the Sang guard, Death company and various assault marines pushed them into the shadows.

    Glad it wasn't to much of a hassle with the 3d printer and you could salvage the material. That Cathedral corner was such a common and iconic terrain piece in 40k history, I'd like to see how it comes out in the end.

    If those old storm guardians beat the space wolves it would be like a Model T winning the Daytona 500, excellent stuff
       
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    Great banners! The Terminators turned out awesome, too!
       
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    100% win right there! The banners came out great, and strong in the nostalgias. Shame the printer tried to ruin itself, but hopefully you can rescue the materials, even if they have added battle damage

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    brushcommando wrote:Wow. Those banners turned out great. Thanks for the step by step, although I doubt I'll be confident enough to ever try that.

    I would honestly recommend giving them a go, the worst that happens is you mess up a sheet of paper. If there are particularly fine details you can even add transfers rather than paint them
    ValhallanWinter wrote:That dread and terminator look great! Glad the banner suggested worked, freehanding curves must be a nightmare, lol. The old blood angels color scheme is looking excellent, I always liked the terminators with red shoulder pads. You never saw Blood angel terminators much in later additions, outside of the Space Hulk ones, I guess the Sang guard, Death company and various assault marines pushed them into the shadows.

    Glad it wasn't to much of a hassle with the 3d printer and you could salvage the material. That Cathedral corner was such a common and iconic terrain piece in 40k history, I'd like to see how it comes out in the end.

    If those old storm guardians beat the space wolves it would be like a Model T winning the Daytona 500, excellent stuff

    I doubt the storm guardians will do much either But the dark reapers and war walker are more likely to put some holes in the Space Wolves whilst the Storm Guardians draw some fire.
    youwashock wrote:Great banners! The Terminators turned out awesome, too!

    Glad you like them, I'm quite pleased with how the terminators turned out.

    I managed to get the top of the scenery printed. I gave the entire model a coat of ready mixed filler to cover the layer lines and give it a more rock like texture, and then a couple of drybrushes of grey:


    And with terminators for scale:


    I think it's pretty close to the original
    If anyone wants to print one (hopefully without printer issues) you can download it from here: https://www.tinkercad.com/things/ce8S1spQTDJ

    I need to pick up some foamboard to give it a proper base, but it'll survive without one.
    I've also got some barrels and crates that I've based for scatter terrain, and my wife is picking me up some foam insulation tonight to make a hill from, so I should be pretty close to getting the scene accurate. Lets see if I can get them done before Sunday!

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    Macragge

    Wow. That came out great! I'm excited to see if you make it across the finish line in time.

       
     
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