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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/01/12 01:42:03
Subject: Multiple Charges and Fight Back
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Bounding Ultramarine Assault Trooper
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If I I have 3 small units(i.e. custodes) near an enemy unit and all successfully roll the charges, as long as all units can touch the enemy base.
-Can they all fight the enemy?
-If they all can, does the enemy unit fight back each time a friendly unit rolls their attacks?
Granted this is without fight last or none of that type of stuff. I am just want to know if that would be proper way to do it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/01/12 04:45:40
Subject: Multiple Charges and Fight Back
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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gundam wrote:If I I have 3 small units(i.e. custodes) near an enemy unit and all successfully roll the charges, as long as all units can touch the enemy base.
well, you have to get within 1 inch of the enemy's base and you can fight, no need to touch bases.
-Can they all fight the enemy?
As long as there are enemy models there when the chosen unit is selected to fight (after all applicable moves are made) then, yes.
-If they all can, does the enemy unit fight back each time a friendly unit rolls their attacks?
Umm, you select a unit to fight, (Picking charging units first). Then when that unit is done fighting, if you have any other charging units they can be selected to fight. Then the enemy can select a unit to fight.
The enemy can only fight back when the enemy unit is selected to fight, which happens after all units that have charged (or have fight first rules) have been selected.
Granted this is without fight last or none of that type of stuff. I am just want to know if that would be proper way to do it.
Seems like you need to give the fight phase rules section another read-through or two. Doing that again might help.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/01/12 12:47:28
Subject: Multiple Charges and Fight Back
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Bounding Ultramarine Assault Trooper
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DeathReaper wrote:
-If they all can, does the enemy unit fight back each time a friendly unit rolls their attacks?
Umm, you select a unit to fight, (Picking charging units first). Then when that unit is done fighting, if you have any other charging units they can be selected to fight. Then the enemy can select a unit to fight.
The enemy can only fight back when the enemy unit is selected to fight, which happens after all units that have charged (or have fight first rules) have been selected.
So if 3 separate friendly units charge a single enemy unit, the enemy unit gets to fight back after each friendly unit attack? that was my main question
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/01/12 12:53:45
Subject: Multiple Charges and Fight Back
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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gundam wrote: DeathReaper wrote:
-If they all can, does the enemy unit fight back each time a friendly unit rolls their attacks?
Umm, you select a unit to fight, (Picking charging units first). Then when that unit is done fighting, if you have any other charging units they can be selected to fight. Then the enemy can select a unit to fight.
The enemy can only fight back when the enemy unit is selected to fight, which happens after all units that have charged (or have fight first rules) have been selected.
So if 3 separate friendly units charge a single enemy unit, the enemy unit gets to fight back after each friendly unit attack? that was my main question
Yes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/01/12 13:16:21
Subject: Multiple Charges and Fight Back
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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p5freak wrote:gundam wrote: DeathReaper wrote:-If they all can, does the enemy unit fight back each time a friendly unit rolls their attacks?
Umm, you select a unit to fight, (Picking charging units first). Then when that unit is done fighting, if you have any other charging units they can be selected to fight. Then the enemy can select a unit to fight.
The enemy can only fight back when the enemy unit is selected to fight, which happens after all units that have charged (or have fight first rules) have been selected.
So if 3 separate friendly units charge a single enemy unit, the enemy unit gets to fight back after each friendly unit attack? that was my main question
Yes.
No. They get to fight back once, after all charging friendly units have fought.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/01/12 13:27:18
Subject: Multiple Charges and Fight Back
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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Kcalehc wrote: p5freak wrote:gundam wrote: DeathReaper wrote:-If they all can, does the enemy unit fight back each time a friendly unit rolls their attacks?
Umm, you select a unit to fight, (Picking charging units first). Then when that unit is done fighting, if you have any other charging units they can be selected to fight. Then the enemy can select a unit to fight.
The enemy can only fight back when the enemy unit is selected to fight, which happens after all units that have charged (or have fight first rules) have been selected.
So if 3 separate friendly units charge a single enemy unit, the enemy unit gets to fight back after each friendly unit attack? that was my main question
Yes.
No. They get to fight back once, after all charging friendly units have fought.
Thats what he asked. Does the enemy unit fight back after each friendly unit (which charged) made their attacks ? The answer is yes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/01/12 13:49:59
Subject: Multiple Charges and Fight Back
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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p5freak wrote: Kcalehc wrote: p5freak wrote:gundam wrote: DeathReaper wrote:-If they all can, does the enemy unit fight back each time a friendly unit rolls their attacks?
Umm, you select a unit to fight, (Picking charging units first). Then when that unit is done fighting, if you have any other charging units they can be selected to fight. Then the enemy can select a unit to fight.
The enemy can only fight back when the enemy unit is selected to fight, which happens after all units that have charged (or have fight first rules) have been selected.
So if 3 separate friendly units charge a single enemy unit, the enemy unit gets to fight back after each friendly unit attack? that was my main question
Yes.
No. They get to fight back once, after all charging friendly units have fought.
Thats what he asked. Does the enemy unit fight back after each friendly unit (which charged) made their attacks ? The answer is yes.
No, it's not. "After each..." would mean after unit 1 attacks you get to attack back, then after unit 2 attacks you get to attack again.
OP, you would get to attack only after all the enemy units have fought. Note, however, that you can use the Counter Attack stratagem to interrupt that sequence after the first or second unit makes their attacks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/01/12 15:07:51
Subject: Multiple Charges and Fight Back
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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gundam wrote: DeathReaper wrote:
-If they all can, does the enemy unit fight back each time a friendly unit rolls their attacks?
Umm, you select a unit to fight, (Picking charging units first). Then when that unit is done fighting, if you have any other charging units they can be selected to fight. Then the enemy can select a unit to fight.
The enemy can only fight back when the enemy unit is selected to fight, which happens after all units that have charged (or have fight first rules) have been selected.
So if 3 separate friendly units charge a single enemy unit, the enemy unit gets to fight back after each friendly unit attack? that was my main question
Normally, yes. The unit your Custodes are fighting might have some special rule that could let them go at the same time as your charging units (you'd still get at least one unit attacking first), but if it doesn't have a special rule all your charging units will get to go before the unit you charged.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/01/12 15:21:43
Subject: Multiple Charges and Fight Back
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Bounding Ultramarine Assault Trooper
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Slipspace wrote: p5freak wrote: Kcalehc wrote: p5freak wrote:gundam wrote: DeathReaper wrote:-If they all can, does the enemy unit fight back each time a friendly unit rolls their attacks?
Umm, you select a unit to fight, (Picking charging units first). Then when that unit is done fighting, if you have any other charging units they can be selected to fight. Then the enemy can select a unit to fight.
The enemy can only fight back when the enemy unit is selected to fight, which happens after all units that have charged (or have fight first rules) have been selected.
So if 3 separate friendly units charge a single enemy unit, the enemy unit gets to fight back after each friendly unit attack? that was my main question
Yes.
No. They get to fight back once, after all charging friendly units have fought.
Thats what he asked. Does the enemy unit fight back after each friendly unit (which charged) made their attacks ? The answer is yes.
No, it's not. "After each..." would mean after unit 1 attacks you get to attack back, then after unit 2 attacks you get to attack again.
OP, you would get to attack only after all the enemy units have fought. Note, however, that you can use the Counter Attack stratagem to interrupt that sequence after the first or second unit makes their attacks.
So are you saying p5freakMade is wrong then?
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doctortom wrote:gundam wrote: DeathReaper wrote:
-If they all can, does the enemy unit fight back each time a friendly unit rolls their attacks?
Umm, you select a unit to fight, (Picking charging units first). Then when that unit is done fighting, if you have any other charging units they can be selected to fight. Then the enemy can select a unit to fight.
The enemy can only fight back when the enemy unit is selected to fight, which happens after all units that have charged (or have fight first rules) have been selected.
So if 3 separate friendly units charge a single enemy unit, the enemy unit gets to fight back after each friendly unit attack? that was my main question
Normally, yes. The unit your Custodes are fighting might have some special rule that could let them go at the same time as your charging units (you'd still get at least one unit attacking first), but if it doesn't have a special rule all your charging units will get to go before the unit you charged.
Units 1 , 2 and 3 have charged Enemy Unit A
So is the sequence below correct or not:
- unit 1 attacks Enemy unit A, Enemy Unit A gets to attack back unit 1
- then after unit 2 attacks Enemy Unit A, Enemy unit A gets to attack unit 2.
-Lastly after unit 3 attacks Enemy Unit A, Enemy A gets to attack unit 3.
Please do not mention any special stratagems or unit skills that can change the order of the fight sequence. I am just curious about whether the sequence above is correct or not.
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This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2021/01/12 15:28:06
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/01/12 15:32:32
Subject: Re:Multiple Charges and Fight Back
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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Unit 1, 2, 3 fight first because they charged, then unit A fights. Chargers always fight first, unless there is a special rule saying otherwise. I meant it that way, sorry if it was misunderstood.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/01/12 15:57:29
Subject: Multiple Charges and Fight Back
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Been Around the Block
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"Fight back" is a term which gets me unreasonably angry because it has no meaning. You either are or are not eligible to fight, with the order determined based on chargers, fight firsts, fight lasts etc.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/01/12 16:55:59
Subject: Multiple Charges and Fight Back
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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gundam wrote:
Units 1 , 2 and 3 have charged Enemy Unit A
So is the sequence below correct or not:
- unit 1 attacks Enemy unit A, Enemy Unit A gets to attack back unit 1
- then after unit 2 attacks Enemy Unit A, Enemy unit A gets to attack unit 2.
-Lastly after unit 3 attacks Enemy Unit A, Enemy A gets to attack unit 3.
Please do not mention any special stratagems or unit skills that can change the order of the fight sequence. I am just curious about whether the sequence above is correct or not.
No. Unit 1 attacks enemy, then Unit 2 attacks enemy, then unit 3 attacks enemy, then Enemy survivors attack, choosing to split his attack among the 3 units as he desires.
(Note: you could choose unit 3 first, then unit 1, then unit 2. I'm assuming the unit numbers are based on the order of which ones you want attacking first, not based on anything else like which unit charged first or anything like that.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2021/01/12 16:58:40
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2021/01/12 17:15:25
Subject: Multiple Charges and Fight Back
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Bounding Ultramarine Assault Trooper
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doctortom wrote:gundam wrote:
Units 1 , 2 and 3 have charged Enemy Unit A
So is the sequence below correct or not:
- unit 1 attacks Enemy unit A, Enemy Unit A gets to attack back unit 1
- then after unit 2 attacks Enemy Unit A, Enemy unit A gets to attack unit 2.
-Lastly after unit 3 attacks Enemy Unit A, Enemy A gets to attack unit 3.
Please do not mention any special stratagems or unit skills that can change the order of the fight sequence. I am just curious about whether the sequence above is correct or not.
No. Unit 1 attacks enemy, then Unit 2 attacks enemy, then unit 3 attacks enemy, then Enemy survivors attack, choosing to split his attack among the 3 units as he desires.
(Note: you could choose unit 3 first, then unit 1, then unit 2. I'm assuming the unit numbers are based on the order of which ones you want attacking first, not based on anything else like which unit charged first or anything like that.
k perfect, thanks
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