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Well....

Some comic knowledge stuff that could be relevant and might not be because who knows how they intend to change any of this around?

Spoiler:

The Time Keepers appear to be alternate versions of Kang the Conqueror. They have the 2 lines down their faces just like Kangs mask.

At which point there is no divine time line. There is just this group of Kangs dictating the flow of time as they see fit to create the future they want.

Even better, this whole show is a soft introduction of Kang who will then appear in Antman and the Wasp: Quantumania.

I suspect this show is basically about Loki fething with Kangs.


These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
 
   
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 Lance845 wrote:
Well....

Some comic knowledge stuff that could be relevant and might not be because who knows how they intend to change any of this around?

Spoiler:

The Time Keepers appear to be alternate versions of Kang the Conqueror. They have the 2 lines down their faces just like Kangs mask.

At which point there is no divine time line. There is just this group of Kangs dictating the flow of time as they see fit to create the future they want.

Even better, this whole show is a soft introduction of Kang who will then appear in Antman and the Wasp: Quantumania.

I suspect this show is basically about Loki fething with Kangs.


The way you describe it makes it sound like Loki is dealing with the Council of Ricks from Rick and Morty
   
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 Grimskul wrote:
 Lance845 wrote:
Well....

Some comic knowledge stuff that could be relevant and might not be because who knows how they intend to change any of this around?

Spoiler:

The Time Keepers appear to be alternate versions of Kang the Conqueror. They have the 2 lines down their faces just like Kangs mask.

At which point there is no divine time line. There is just this group of Kangs dictating the flow of time as they see fit to create the future they want.

Even better, this whole show is a soft introduction of Kang who will then appear in Antman and the Wasp: Quantumania.

I suspect this show is basically about Loki fething with Kangs.


The way you describe it makes it sound like Loki is dealing with the Council of Ricks from Rick and Morty


Council of Kangs has definitely been a thing, probably before the Council of Reeds that the Council of Ricks is based on. Then again, Kang is a Richards sometimes so that makes sense, then again he's also kid Iron Man sometimes? Kang's not exactly the most straightforward of characters. They can really do whatever they want.
   
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wonder what happens if the as yet not seen other loki gets into the Tva and sets off the apparently many time pruners they've collected

also, every time i read Tva, given my home state, i think of something very very different, like why is Loki being held by the people that build dams and lakes in the 40's
   
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 greenskin lynn wrote:
also, every time i read Tva, given my home state, i think of something very very different, like why is Loki being held by the people that build dams and lakes in the 40's


Like, completely seriously, I'd watch that.

There's something incredibly amusing about the TVA secretly being the most powerful rogue agency in the universe and forcing Loki to perform basic engineering work.

   
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 LordofHats wrote:
 greenskin lynn wrote:
also, every time i read Tva, given my home state, i think of something very very different, like why is Loki being held by the people that build dams and lakes in the 40's


Like, completely seriously, I'd watch that.

There's something incredibly amusing about the TVA secretly being the most powerful rogue agency in the universe and forcing Loki to perform basic engineering work.

We have to build a lake here

Why

It will be important to the timeline in 27 years, 5 months, 6 days, 14 hours and 55 minutes

and over there, we build a dam, so as to force the relocation of 7 families and totally ruin the date night that would have created a war criminal
   
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MN (Currently in WY)

I think the same thing whenever I see TVA and I am not from the area at all.

The next MCU nebulous organization should be called the CCC.

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 Easy E wrote:
The next MCU nebulous organization should be called the CCC.


The Civilian Conservation Corp took conservation extremely seriously.

   
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon






Not long until episode 2now.

Dunno about anyone else, but it doesn’t feel like it’s been a week’s wait to me.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Episode 2

Spoiler:
Heating up quite nicely now.

Loki and Möbius have some serious chemistry. Two actors having a clearly great time.

Tom Hiddleston continues to channel some Rik Mayall in his performance. Not a Rik pastiche, but to my mind clear influences. Shades of Richard Richard and Drop Dead Fred.

Happy to see the Grenade things appear to do their job, contrary to my earlier suspicions.

Distinct feel of an Odd Couple Buddy cop movie.

Good exposition as to how time and variances work in this reality. And some solid plot progression. Also Loki’s theory about hiding in natural disasters is a decent hand wave for End Game’s shenanigans.

Ooop! Roxxscorp mentioned!

Feels like a lot packed in, but not overly so.

FLIBBLE!!!! Interesting reveal of powers.

Lady Loki confirmed and revealed.

Very very satisfying episode!

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A little surprised she was blond.

 
   
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I liked episode 2
Spoiler:
I don’t think the reveal was Lady Loki though. Not wanting to be called “Loki” and being blonde makes me think it more likely the TVA misidentified her and it is actually Enchantress.

Looking forward to the next episode!

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Aash wrote:
I liked episode 2
Spoiler:
I don’t think the reveal was Lady Loki though. Not wanting to be called “Loki” and being blonde makes me think it more likely the TVA misidentified her and it is actually Enchantress.

Looking forward to the next episode!


Spoiler:
Who Also tends to use green magic, and Loki referred to her possession technique as an enchantment I do believe. Could be this is just their version of her origin story though, as a way to not have two characters called Loki.

 
   
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Scotland, but nowhere near my rulebook

Somebody eagle eyed noticed that in the foreign language credits there's a character called
Spoiler:
"Sylvie" who is apparently The Enchantress. I dunno, I don't read the comics


Also;
Spoiler:
Given that the next Doctor Strange movie is called "In the multiverse of madness" I suspect that the TVA isn't going to succeed in keeping everything on one path
   
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 Graphite wrote:
Somebody eagle eyed noticed that in the foreign language credits there's a character called
Spoiler:
"Sylvie" who is apparently The Enchantress. I dunno, I don't read the comics


Spoiler:
She's not THE Enchantress (Amora) but much like Kate Bishop is a young Hawkeye, she also goes by the name.

Most interesting, she's another character tied to the Young Avengers comics.
   
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Trying to figure out what the relationship between Owen and the Judge is. I'm half convinced she's his daughter (and boss), but his weird conversation about them being 'created' as the TVA made me doubt that. (and that they never have any life outside the TVA made me double down on the idea that the TVA is absolutely incredibly bad).

But then Hunter C-20's broken dialogue happened about what's real and going 'home.'
Spoiler:
they're totally all kidnapped from different parts of the timeline, brainwashed and put to work, aren't they? Malevolent space lizards trying to force a certain future outcome.


So I'm 100% rooting for
Spoiler:
both Lokis and an end to evil time-space lizard tyranny. Semper Fidelis Tyrannosaurus!


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The enchantment power makes me wonder why the mind-stone-scepter was even necessary in Avengers. And the whole doesn't-work-on-Iron-Man bit is kinda a plot hole now. Instead of heart tapping with the stick, Loki could've just green fingered Tony.

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On that last one?

Spoiler:
Different Loki, different powers.

If indeed she is another Loki.

   
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Monarchy of TBD

Spoiler:
I'm calling it now, last episode, with the TVA in ashes, a bemused Mobius asks Loki (s?) waht's he supposed to do now.
Loki (Variant 1) smiles, and unveils a jetski.
The series ends with the credits rolling while Mobius and Loki jetski.

It's a longshot, but it would be awesome if Miss Minute somehow is also there, on a crudely animated jetski.

Klawz-Ramming is a subset of citrus fruit?
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Orkeosaurus wrote:Star Trek also said we'd have X-Wings by now. We all see how that prediction turned out.
Orkeosaurus, on homophobia, the nature of homosexuality, and the greatness of George Takei.
English doesn't borrow from other languages. It follows them down dark alleyways and mugs them for loose grammar.

 
   
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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
On that last one?

Spoiler:
Different Loki, different powers.

If indeed she is another Loki.

Sure. But also, MCU Loki does have access to undisclosed magic beyond simple illusions and shapechange.
It doesn't seem like much of a stretch.



@gitzbitah- Absolutely. They're 100% pulling that trigger.
Spoiler:
It's Chekov's jetski now.

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 LunarSol wrote:
 Graphite wrote:
Somebody eagle eyed noticed that in the foreign language credits there's a character called
Spoiler:
"Sylvie" who is apparently The Enchantress. I dunno, I don't read the comics


Spoiler:
She's not THE Enchantress (Amora) but much like Kate Bishop is a young Hawkeye, she also goes by the name.

Most interesting, she's another character tied to the Young Avengers comics.


keep in mind the MCU is willing to occasionally twist and change things to suit the story, things like the Power Broker
Spoiler:
being Sharon Carter
etc so this could well the MCU enchantress
   
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On the MCU and “who is who”?

That’s the advantage of the films not directly following any particular comic universe. They’re free to include pretty much any Hero or Villain, and make them who they need them to be.

Which in turn, keeps us the audience guessing to a certain degree.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Adjacent to Loki, Tom Hiddleston will be doing CBeebies Bedtime Story on 25 June 2021.

For those perhaps unfamiliar, CBeebies is the BBC’s pre-schooler channel. And the last programme of each day is the now infamous Bedtime Stories.

These are just what the name suggests. But each is read by an honest to goodness “famous for being good at something, rather than just for being famous” celebrity.

Previous readers include, but are not limited to…..(thank you Wikipedia)…James McAvoy, Simon Pegg, David Hasselhoff, Lulu, Damian Lewis, Rosamund Pike, Joanna Page, Greg James, Toby Stephens, David Tennant, Ben Faulks, Michael Rosen, Floella Benjamin, Shayne Ward, Romesh Ranganathan, Chris Evans, Big Bird, Tom Hardy, David Schwimmer, Dolly Parton, Sir Elton John, Rick Astley and Björn Ulvaeus of ABBA.

Yes. Captain America Chris Evans. Yes. That Tom Hardy.

Here’s one of my favourite YouTube channels with more info if you’re interested (some swearing, so pop your headphones on!)




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I just can't not hear a Tara Strong and. Country version of several of her memorable characters when I hear miss minutes

5000pts 6000pts 3000pts
 
   
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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
I just can't not hear a Tara Strong and. Country version of several of her memorable characters when I hear miss minutes


Yeah, I didn’t catch it in the first one, but I recognized her in the second.

 
   
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Loki episode 3 down.

Spoiler:
Nice bit of mid-season fare. Lots of exposition, an interesting reveal (TVA Agents are seemingly all variants, but don’t know/remember), and some decent character time for Sylvie, without telling us too much. Still plenty of mystery held onto.

Roll on episode 4

   
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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Loki episode 3 down.

Spoiler:
, an interesting reveal (TVA Agents are seemingly all variants, but don’t know/remember),



And no one was suprised at all. except apparently Loki

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A little surprised Loki never tried calling for Heimdall. I don’t know where they’re at in the timeline though if that was a viable option. I suppose instead we’ll get the TSA searching apocalypses for them coming in and providing an exit.

 
   
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 AduroT wrote:
A little surprised Loki never tried calling for Heimdall. I don’t know where they’re at in the timeline though if that was a viable option. I suppose instead we’ll get the TSA searching apocalypses for them coming in and providing an exit.


Spoiler:
2077 Heimdal's been a corpse for about 60 years by that point

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Loki episode 3 down.

Spoiler:
Nice bit of mid-season fare. Lots of exposition, an interesting reveal (TVA Agents are seemingly all variants, but don’t know/remember), and some decent character time for Sylvie, without telling us too much. Still plenty of mystery held onto.

Roll on episode 4


It started to feel like they were holding onto mystery for the sake of holding onto the mystery. We're past the point where hiding everything, including even an inkling of a motive, is rather stale.
The 'reveal' was, very, very obvious.

That episode was... odd. I was expecting layers of deception and instead got a buddy comedy where oversharing met not sharing with scenes of random punching. And some pretty impressive displays of power (like catching a building), but... not when it ever mattered.

I'm holding out hope that Loki still has the real macguffin in his pocket and everything from the train exit on was an elaborate setup to try to get in her head.

Efficiency is the highest virtue. 
   
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Well, on that….

Spoiler:
We got the initial conflict between the two heroes/anti-heroes.

Little bit of willy waving over their various powers. Background on Loki, with Sylvie being tight lipped for the most part.

They don’t trust each other at the outset, but we see some Ally of Convenience start to emerge.

I see where you’re coming from, but I think we need episode 4 to round it off. If only because giving Sylvie a mere 40 minutes of intro wouldn’t be enough.

I mean, we know she’s a variant. We know she’s been a variant for years. But how did she start? Is she from another multiverse? What defines her as a variant? Because we can reasonably at this stage extrapolate Loki is the Prime Loki, given he spent hundreds of years arsing about, with the full knowledge of the TVA, before they treated him as a variant following a clear trigger point.

And what exactly is her beef with the TVA?

I don’t think they could’ve covered all that to satisfaction in a single episode

   
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Scotland, but nowhere near my rulebook

Spoiler:
And Sylvie said that they've been hunting her "all her life" and has very fragmentary memories of her mother. And the TVA agent's memories were scrambled as well.

The TVA meanwhile say they've "pruned" more Loki variants than any other. Have the TVA always been at war with Lokis in general, and the mix up with the Tesseract is the first chance they've had to get him? Sylvie seems to be against the TVA because they're against her - up until now Loki hasn't had any particular problem with them other than as a thing he wants to take over
   
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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Well, on that….

Spoiler:
We got the initial conflict between the two heroes/anti-heroes.

Little bit of willy waving over their various powers. Background on Loki, with Sylvie being tight lipped for the most part.

They don’t trust each other at the outset, but we see some Ally of Convenience start to emerge.

I see where you’re coming from, but I think we need episode 4 to round it off. If only because giving Sylvie a mere 40 minutes of intro wouldn’t be enough.

I mean, we know she’s a variant. We know she’s been a variant for years. But how did she start? Is she from another multiverse? What defines her as a variant? Because we can reasonably at this stage extrapolate Loki is the Prime Loki, given he spent hundreds of years arsing about, with the full knowledge of the TVA, before they treated him as a variant following a clear trigger point.

And what exactly is her beef with the TVA?

I don’t think they could’ve covered all that to satisfaction in a single episode


All that? No. But they could have started.

Its a weird thing, because the character clearly doesn't have a reason to share at all. But we're 3 of 6 episodes in and the villain has presented no motivation to all this. Its a weird place to be. Maybe Mobius is her boyfriend and its a revenge plot. Maybe its just purely survival. Maybe she's secretly Kang. Possibilities should be narrowing at this point in the arc, and instead its just as completely open-ended as it was in episode one.

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