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2021/05/14 05:38:25
Subject: [1000] - Drukhari
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Been Around the Block
LA, California
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Drukhari
Battalion Detachment
0CP (Aeldari - Drukhari)
[55 PL, 6CP, 1,000pts]
Battle Size [6CP]
Selections: 2. Incursion
(51-100 Total PL / 501-1000 Points) [6CP]
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Archon [4 PL, 65pts]
Hatred Eternal, Inspiring Leader, Overlord, Power sword, Splinter Pistol, Warlord
Haemonculus [4 PL, 80pts]
Haemonculus Tools, Ichor Injector, Scissorhand, Stinger Pistol, The Nightmare Doll
Succubus [3 PL, 60pts]
4 - Painbringer (Combat Drug)
Splinter Pistol & Archite Glaive
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Kabalite Warriors [3 PL, 40pts]
4x Kabalite Warrior [32pts]
4x Splinter Rifle
Sybarite [8pts]
Splinter Rifle
Kabalite Warriors [3 PL, 40pts]
4x Kabalite Warrior [32pts]
4x Splinter Rifle
Sybarite [8pts]
Splinter Rifle
Wracks [3 PL, 50pts]
Acothyst [18pts]
Liquifier Gun [10pts], Wrack Blade
4x Wracks [32pts]
4x Wrack Blade
Wyches [3 PL, 50pts]
4 - Painbringer (Combat Drug)
Hekatrix [10pts]
Hekatarii Blade, Splinter Pistol
4x Wych [40pts]
4x Hekatarii Blade, 4x Plasma Grenades,
4x Splinter Pistol
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Incubi [4 PL, 80pts]
4x Incubi [64pts]
4x Klaive
Klaivex [16pts]
Klaive
Mandrakes [3 PL, 75pts]
4x Mandrake [60pts]
4x Baleblast, 4x Glimmersteel Blade
Nightfiend [15pts]
Baleblast, Glimmersteel Blade
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Ravager [8 PL, 140pts]
Bladevanes, 3x Dark Lance
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Razorwing Jetfighter [8 PL, 160pts]
Kabal, Razorwing Missiles, Twin splinter rifle
2 Dark Lances
2x Dark Lance
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Raider [5 PL, 85pts]
Bladevanes, Dark Lance, Kabal
Venom [4 PL, 75pts]
Bladevanes, Kabal, Splinter Cannon [10pts], Twin splinter rifle
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2021/05/19 20:32:24
Subject: [1000] - Drukhari
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Been Around the Block
LA, California
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I went ahead and purchased all the models in the list above and bought a couple extras
Extras purchased
Mandrakes (5)
Venom (1)
Drazhar
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I hope I can somehow incorporate them in a larger list some day.
I hope you folks think this list is worthy of casual play and possibly tournament worthy as long as having fun is the goal. I only played a couple table top games back in 2008 and would be honored to hear your input.
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2021/05/20 10:24:32
Subject: [1000] - Drukhari
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Not sure what your trying accomplish with this list. It looks fine to play casually, but tourney wise it definitely doesn't have enough oomph. Your 5 man troop units will die to a stiff breeze. Personally, I would drop the razorwing, add a raider, and invest more into your troops.
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2021/05/21 19:31:48
Subject: [1000] - Drukhari
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Been Around the Block
LA, California
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xambrien wrote:Not sure what your trying accomplish with this list. It looks fine to play casually, but tourney wise it definitely doesn't have enough oomph. Your 5 man troop units will die to a stiff breeze. Personally, I would drop the razorwing, add a raider, and invest more into your troops.
Thanks for chiming in, so drop the razorwing -- add a raider and more troops. Seems like a solid change to my list.
I appreciate the guidance, so if the small squads will die easily.. do I combine the two five-man squads of kabalite warriors?
Thanks in advance
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2021/05/21 21:39:13
Subject: Re:[1000] - Drukhari
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Well, with the models listed I would go something like this:
++ Patrol Detachment 0CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [42 PL, 2CP, 760pts] ++
+ Configuration +
Detachment Command Cost
Obsession: Kabal of the Black Heart: Thirst for Power
Raiding Forces - CP Refund [2CP]
+ HQ +
Archon [5 PL, 85pts]: Hatred Eternal, Huskblade, Overlord, Splinter Pistol, The Djin Blade, Warlord
. Splintered Genius (Black Heart): Splintered Genius
+ Troops +
Kabalite Trueborn [8 PL, 135pts]
. 6x Kabalite Trueborn: 6x Splinter Rifle
. Kabalite Trueborn w/ Heavy Weapon: Dark Lance
. Kabalite Trueborn w/ Special Weapon: Blaster
. Kabalite Trueborn w/ Special Weapon: Blaster
. Trueborn Sybarite: Splinter Rifle
+ Elites +
Incubi [4 PL, 80pts]
. 4x Incubi: 4x Klaive
. Klaivex: Klaive
Mandrakes [3 PL, 75pts]
. 4x Mandrake: 4x Baleblast, 4x Glimmersteel Blade
. Nightfiend
+ Heavy Support +
Ravager [8 PL, 140pts]: 3x Dark Lance
+ Dedicated Transport +
Raider [5 PL, 85pts]: Dark Lance, Kabal
Raider [5 PL, 85pts]: Dark Lance, Kabal
Venom [4 PL, 75pts]: Kabal, Splinter Cannon, Twin splinter rifle
++ Patrol Detachment -2CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [12 PL, 4CP, 240pts] ++
+ Configuration +
Battle Size [6CP]: 2. Incursion (51-100 Total PL / 501-1000 Points)
Detachment Command Cost [-2CP]
Obsession: Cult of the Cursed Blade: Only The Strong Will Survive
Raiding Forces - CP Refund [2CP]
+ Stratagems +
Stratagem: Prizes from the Dark City [-1CP]
+ HQ +
Succubus [3 PL, -1CP, 60pts]: 1 - Adrenalight (Combat Drug), Shardnet and Impaler, Stratagem: Tolerated Ambition, Traitor's Embrace, Treacherous Deceiver
+ Troops +
Wyches [6 PL, 105pts]: 1 - Adrenalight (Combat Drug)
. Hekatrix: Power sword, Splinter Pistol
. 9x Wych: 9x Hekatarii Blade, 9x Plasma Grenades, 9x Splinter Pistol
+ Elites +
Mandrakes [3 PL, 75pts]
. 4x Mandrake: 4x Baleblast, 4x Glimmersteel Blade
. Nightfiend
++ Total: [54 PL, 6CP, 1,000pts] ++
Created with [url=https://battlescribe.net]BattleScribe[/url
This will give you better troops, the true born act like a second ravager, and the wyches become properly killy. The succubus holds units and places and does a mortal wound when she makes a save in melee, and explodes for more morta wounds when she dies. Keep the archon with the incubi, as a beat stick, while the mandrakes take care of objectives and irritate your opponent.
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2021/05/21 23:44:46
Subject: Re:[1000] - Drukhari
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Been Around the Block
LA, California
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xambrien wrote:Well, with the models listed I would go something like this:
++ Patrol Detachment 0CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [42 PL, 2CP, 760pts] ++
+ Configuration +
Detachment Command Cost
Obsession: Kabal of the Black Heart: Thirst for Power
Raiding Forces - CP Refund [2CP]
+ HQ +
Archon [5 PL, 85pts]: Hatred Eternal, Huskblade, Overlord, Splinter Pistol, The Djin Blade, Warlord
. Splintered Genius (Black Heart): Splintered Genius
+ Troops +
Kabalite Trueborn [8 PL, 135pts]
. 6x Kabalite Trueborn: 6x Splinter Rifle
. Kabalite Trueborn w/ Heavy Weapon: Dark Lance
. Kabalite Trueborn w/ Special Weapon: Blaster
. Kabalite Trueborn w/ Special Weapon: Blaster
. Trueborn Sybarite: Splinter Rifle
+ Elites +
Incubi [4 PL, 80pts]
. 4x Incubi: 4x Klaive
. Klaivex: Klaive
Mandrakes [3 PL, 75pts]
. 4x Mandrake: 4x Baleblast, 4x Glimmersteel Blade
. Nightfiend
+ Heavy Support +
Ravager [8 PL, 140pts]: 3x Dark Lance
+ Dedicated Transport +
Raider [5 PL, 85pts]: Dark Lance, Kabal
Raider [5 PL, 85pts]: Dark Lance, Kabal
Venom [4 PL, 75pts]: Kabal, Splinter Cannon, Twin splinter rifle
++ Patrol Detachment -2CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [12 PL, 4CP, 240pts] ++
+ Configuration +
Battle Size [6CP]: 2. Incursion (51-100 Total PL / 501-1000 Points)
Detachment Command Cost [-2CP]
Obsession: Cult of the Cursed Blade: Only The Strong Will Survive
Raiding Forces - CP Refund [2CP]
+ Stratagems +
Stratagem: Prizes from the Dark City [-1CP]
+ HQ +
Succubus [3 PL, -1CP, 60pts]: 1 - Adrenalight (Combat Drug), Shardnet and Impaler, Stratagem: Tolerated Ambition, Traitor's Embrace, Treacherous Deceiver
+ Troops +
Wyches [6 PL, 105pts]: 1 - Adrenalight (Combat Drug)
. Hekatrix: Power sword, Splinter Pistol
. 9x Wych: 9x Hekatarii Blade, 9x Plasma Grenades, 9x Splinter Pistol
+ Elites +
Mandrakes [3 PL, 75pts]
. 4x Mandrake: 4x Baleblast, 4x Glimmersteel Blade
. Nightfiend
++ Total: [54 PL, 6CP, 1,000pts] ++
Created with [url=https://battlescribe.net]BattleScribe[/url
This will give you better troops, the true born act like a second ravager, and the wyches become properly killy. The succubus holds units and places and does a mortal wound when she makes a save in melee, and explodes for more morta wounds when she dies. Keep the archon with the incubi, as a beat stick, while the mandrakes take care of objectives and irritate your opponent.
That really means a lot to me!
I will either go buy a raider or go return one of the venoms (I should have a receipt, so I will be good to go soon)
As a beginner, it is always a blessing to get guidance. so I want to thank you and I will go ahead and go with your list; I look forward to updating you once I am done painting and playing a game or two!
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2021/05/22 01:14:04
Subject: [1000] - Drukhari
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Regular Dakkanaut
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As much as people bitch about drukhari right know, this is not a point and click army. Hide your boats and take your shots where they are most useful. I've steered you away from the "feel bad units", so play smart. If you can keep the venom, you well eventually want it for when you go up in points. It's perfect for another unit of incubi and a oogbooga haemonculus or Drazhar when you go up in points. You know your finances better then I do. Good luck!
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2021/05/22 05:49:37
Subject: [1000] - Drukhari
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Been Around the Block
LA, California
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xambrien wrote:As much as people bitch about drukhari right know, this is not a point and click army. Hide your boats and take your shots where they are most useful. I've steered you away from the "feel bad units", so play smart. If you can keep the venom, you well eventually want it for when you go up in points. It's perfect for another unit of incubi and a oogbooga haemonculus or Drazhar when you go up in points. You know your finances better then I do. Good luck!
A lot of people told me not to play Drukhari as a returning player (who has only paid 3 table top games in 2008).
They said the army is a glass cannon army but I told them anything would be better than my World Eaters army ( lol, I was only teasing but seriously they seem nerfed from all the theory crafters out there).
I will go ahead and just keep the venoms because I plan on making a bigger list.
Luckily, raiders aren't that expensive and are available in Los Angeles.
What are these "Feel bad units" you speak of brother?
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2021/05/22 09:36:17
Subject: [1000] - Drukhari
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Dark technomancer wracks and cult of Strife razor- Bus. There is a whole 60 page thread of salt in general discussion.
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2021/05/23 09:46:53
Subject: [1000] - Drukhari
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Been Around the Block
LA, California
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xambrien wrote:Dark technomancer wracks and cult of Strife razor- Bus. There is a whole 60 page thread of salt in general discussion.
I cannot thank you enough for guiding me xambrien,
Oh now I get it, as in we excluded models that people may complain about?
I think if that is the case, I should probably use them (haha). I am super new and will be in a tournament.
I have a lot of reading to do (Codex and rulebook) but I just found out our tournaments are 2,000pts.
If I had no shame in my game, what would you recommend me play with?
(Also, since I am upgrading to 2,000pts -- shall I just edit my title and carry on here - or do another thread?)
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2021/05/24 07:31:57
Subject: [1000] - Drukhari
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Been Around the Block
LA, California
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I don't know how to start my list off *and sorry I should've edited my last post*
How do I take Dark Technomancer Wracks? What makes them DT?
Would it be a bad idea for me to get like 4 raiders and 40 wracks (with 2 liquifiers per 5 wracks)?
(I can still return my venoms, I don't see anyone using them in 2k lists - am I missing something here?)
Did I make a bad choice getting that razorwing jetfighter?
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2021/05/24 10:03:09
Subject: [1000] - Drukhari
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Regular Dakkanaut
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It's really, a broken interaction. The army plays great with out it, personally I find it anti-ethical to drukhari. This one interaction that will get hit eventually. Could end up nerfing the entire book.
I've been playing drukhari since 3rd edition and won't touch DT wracks with a 10 ft pole. We finally get an edition, where terrain matters, and Dark Elder have a complete functional codex we can use.
Now as to your question, you just take the coven obsession Dark Technomancer, that's it.
As to should you take it, that's on you. I will say this, play what you like. It's hobby, a pass time, something to do for fun. You will benefit more from learning to play the army, then chasing after a rules exploit that maybe faqed into obscurity in the near future.
As to the razorwing, all fliers have dropped down a step in this edition. Mainly because they can't hide and not hold objectives. It is a beautiful model, and can get work done on the table, is it optimal no, is it fun yes.
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2021/05/25 00:40:56
Subject: [1000] - Drukhari
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Been Around the Block
LA, California
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Okay what I will do is construct a 2,000 pt super competitive list and a 2,000 pt fun list (sounds cruel but I feel like there should be a different in play style when it comes down to winning)
I know as a beginner, it seems a bit wrong taking advantage of units that may be nerfed down the line. Or I may add to the possibility of them getting nerfed if I contribute to playing them. Or I could totally miss out and get nerfed like my Khorne World Eaters army and wait ten years and never see the light of day.
I was wondering if you could point me in the right direction.
I want to utilize the succubus and possibly Drazhar as well. Would I need a hoeomanculous (mispelled forsure) and an Archon to be competitive?
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2K Drukhari List:
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New Roster (Warhammer 40,000 9th Edition) [124 PL, 1,996pts]
Patrol Detachment 0CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [38 PL, 702pts]
Configuration
Detachment Command Cost
Obsession
Selections: Cult of Strife: The Spectacle of Murder
HQ [8 PL, 140pts]
Archon [5 PL, 80pts]
Selections: Dark Lotus Toxin, Hatred Eternal, Inspiring Leader, Overlord, Power sword, Splinter Pistol, Warlord
Splintered Genius (Black Heart) [1 PL, 15pts]
Selections: Splintered Genius [1 PL, 15pts]
Succubus [3 PL, 60pts]
Selections: 1 - Adrenalight (Combat Drug)
Agoniser & Archite Glaive
Selections: Agoniser, Archite Glaive
Troops [12 PL, 172pts]
[b]Kabalite Warriors [6 PL, 72pts]
8x Kabalite Warrior [64pts]
Selections: 8x Splinter Rifle
Sybarite [8pts]
Selections: Splinter Rifle
Wyches [6 PL, 100pts]
Selections: 3 - Hypex (Combat Drug)
Hekatrix [10pts]
Selections: Hekatarii Blade, Splinter Pistol
9x Wych [90pts]
Selections: 9x Hekatarii Blade, 9x Plasma Grenades, 9x Splinter Pistol
Elites [10 PL, 230pts]
Incubi [4 PL, 80pts]
4x Incubi [64pts]
Selections: 4x Klaive
Klaivex [16pts]
Selections: Klaive
Mandrakes [3 PL, 75pts]
4x Mandrake [60pts]
Selections: 4x Baleblast, 4x Glimmersteel Blade
Nightfiend [15pts]
Selections: Baleblast, Glimmersteel Blade
Mandrakes [3 PL, 75pts]
4x Mandrake [60pts]
Selections: 4x Baleblast, 4x Glimmersteel Blade
Nightfiend [15pts]
Selections: Baleblast, Glimmersteel Blade
Flyer [8 PL, 160pts]
Razorwing Jetfighter [8 PL, 160pts]
Selections: Kabal, Razorwing Missiles, Twin splinter rifle
2 Dark Lances
Selections: 2x Dark Lance
Patrol Detachment 0CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [86 PL, 1,294pts]
Configuration
Detachment Command Cost
Obsession
Selections: *Custom Coven*
HQ [11 PL, 215pts]
Drazhar [7 PL, 135pts]
Selections: Hatred Eternal, The Executioner's Demiklaives, Warlord
Haemonculus [4 PL, 80pts]
Selections: Haemonculus Tools, Ichor Injector, Scissorhand, Stinger Pistol
Troops [42 PL, 514pts]
Kabalite Warriors [9 PL, 121pts]
9x Kabalite Warrior [72pts]
Selections: 9x Splinter Rifle
Kabalite Warrior w/ Special Weapon [18pts]
Selections: Blaster [10pts]
Kabalite warrior with Heavy Weapon [23pts]
Selections: Dark Lance [15pts]
Sybarite [8pts]
Selections: Splinter Rifle
Kabalite Warriors [9 PL, 121pts]
9x Kabalite Warrior [72pts]
Selections: 9x Splinter Rifle
Kabalite Warrior w/ Special Weapon [18pts]
Selections: Blaster [10pts]
Kabalite warrior with Heavy Weapon [23pts]
Selections: Dark Lance [15pts]
Sybarite [8pts]
Selections: Splinter Rifle
Wracks [6 PL, 68pts]
Acothyst [18pts]
Selections: Liquifier Gun [10pts], Wrack Blade
Wrack w/ Special Weapon [18pts]
Selections: Liquifier Gun [10pts], Wrack Blade
4x Wracks [32pts]
Selections: 4x Wrack Blade
Wracks [6 PL, 68pts]
Acothyst [18pts]
Selections: Liquifier Gun [10pts], Wrack Blade
Wrack w/ Special Weapon [18pts]
Selections: Liquifier Gun [10pts], Wrack Blade
4x Wracks [32pts]
Selections: 4x Wrack Blade
Wracks [6 PL, 68pts]
Acothyst [18pts]
Selections: Liquifier Gun [10pts], Wrack Blade
Wrack w/ Special Weapon [18pts]
Selections: Liquifier Gun [10pts], Wrack Blade
4x Wracks [32pts]
Selections: 4x Wrack Blade
Wracks [6 PL, 68pts]
Acothyst [18pts]
Selections: Liquifier Gun [10pts], Wrack Blade
Wrack w/ Special Weapon [18pts]
Selections: Liquifier Gun [10pts], Wrack Blade
4x Wracks [32pts]
Selections: 4x Wrack Blade
Heavy Support [8 PL, 140pts]
Ravager [8 PL, 140pts]
Selections: Bladevanes, 3x Dark Lance
Dedicated Transport [25 PL, 425pts]
Raider [5 PL, 85pts]
Selections: Bladevanes, Dark Lance, Kabal
Raider [5 PL, 85pts]
Selections: Bladevanes, Dark Lance, Kabal
Raider [5 PL, 85pts]
Selections: Bladevanes, Dark Lance, Kabal
Raider [5 PL, 85pts]
Selections: Bladevanes, Dark Lance, Kabal
Raider [5 PL, 85pts]
Selections: Bladevanes, Dark Lance, Kabal
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I don't mind taking out the flyer for more units or two venoms or raiders.
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