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Quasistellar wrote:
Also, it's probably too much to hope, but I'd love it if the saddle wasn't integrated into the dragon, mould-wise. Would open the door to more options for conversions.

I hope the same, but mostly cause I want a dragon army, not a "dudes on dragons" army.

Nice dragons, but the fat tincans on top of them will cause some spinal damage for sure.
I wish the dragons were more of "allied species/dragon soldiers" vs "smart horses with big teeth" thing...

I feel like there must be something wrong with my eyes because I feel like the stormcasts look too big to be riding the dragons.

Like there must be something weird going on, I've still got my Lord Celestant on Dracoth and he looks fine, so why would these guys not when I assume the dragons are the same size or bigger?

I really like the new stormcast I've seen and have bought so far but I'm not sure on these guys, will need to see in person.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Overread wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I wonder if the Dragons can fart out spells?

Only if fighting against Gloompsite Gitz

You leave my weedy Gobbos alone, you big bully!

Hey you're the one who wanted dragons farting spells and I can't think of any other way other than eating a few shroomed up Gobbos - or perhaps one big shroom squig

Cronch wrote:
Nice dragons, but the fat tincans on top of them will cause some spinal damage for sure.
I wish the dragons were more of "allied species/dragon soldiers" vs "smart horses with big teeth" thing...

War Horses could carry a fully armoured knight, and they’re much daintier than any Dragon of at least directly comparable size.

Damn but that's triggered my Dragonlance nostalgia. Stormcast painted as Knights Of Solamnia... Hmm...

Well at least we know know how Stormcast Deepstrike: The Dragons get tired of carrying their fat around and drop them on the enemy

ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
I do fear the prices though.

The price will cause D3 Mortal Wounds.

Crispy78 wrote:
Damn but that's triggered my Dragonlance nostalgia. Stormcast painted as Knights Of Solamnia... Hmm...

Well, that effectively answers how I will paint these new Stoemcast!

Thank you for the suggestion...Silver and Bronze dragons it is.

Well I started my SCE just as a little side project as I had the soul wars and dominion half anyway and painting them in a death knight theme. Thats my saphirron/sindragosa and frostwyrms sorted...

No option without a rider? I'll be sticking to last week's Dragon instead.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
I really don't get the appeal behind the riders. They look silly to me. A big bulky bloke sitting on a small dragon looks comical, imo.
If they had lighter armor I suppose it would be ok, but it really looks as though they just got a custodes and dropped in on a dragon's neck.

The dragons themselves are fine.

Couldn't say it any better. The Dragons themselves are great, but the sce stick out like a sore thumb

All you dragon fans really need to check out the Dragonbond: Lords of Vaala thread Lots of dragons in there and no stormcast riders!

Im reconsidering either not getting Yndrasta now, I mean she would look rad with reptilian wings rather than angelic. Or maybe just to convert her wings. For OCD sake.
Would fit my deathcast theme too.
The poses of these dragon are all I could have asked for so dynamic and elegant. Why couldnt they have done something similar with the big one is beyond me.
wonder how many of these bad boys you could have in an army.

 NAVARRO wrote:

wonder how many of these bad boys you could have in an army.

Well, they become Battleline if you take Knight-Draconis as general.

I'm weirdly not a fan of these. I think it's the flight stands and the Stormcast riders really making them "meh" to me.

Would look far better if they'd gone for a 'breath weapon' attachment so the dragons could look like they're strafing the ground or some ruins that serve as an attachment point towards the tails or talons. The Stormcast riders could have stood for getting something like a breastplate, pauldrons, bracers, and greaves rather than "full plate head to toe".

People is freaked out because the dragons have lips: you might think on dragons like theropod, beakless dinosaurs, but even those are considered to have lips like lizards too. Crocodiles and other reptilians on fiction settings don't have them, but I love the fact of them having lips.

Also, the heads of the dragon princes make them look like they came from a Don Bluth production, and I'm all down for it.

You don't like Sigmarines on dragons? maybe it's because of the silly helmets, but that's why they have optional bare heads, and you can always use Demigryph Knights shields, or get rid of the dawi face from the shields, and paint them on other colours rather than gold.

And fluff-wise, we have to thank Seraphon for this, so I expect to have a proper reward when our BT releases.

Bago wrote:
Thats my saphirron

*Saphiron, one 'r', and your idea sounds metal af.

 NAVARRO wrote:

The poses of these dragon are all I could have asked for so dynamic and elegant. Why couldnt they have done something similar with the big one is beyond me.

Because this guys are much smaller. The brothers will, by the look of it, be on 160 mm bases. I expect the Stormdrakes to be Varanguard size.

Varanguard come on 75x42mm bases.
Dracoths are on 90x52mm bases.

There's a 175x105mm(used by the Mortek Crawler) and a 120x92mm(Mortarchs, for example, have this one) base.

I'm thinking that the 120x92mm base is the one this will get.

 CMLR wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:

The poses of these dragon are all I could have asked for so dynamic and elegant. Why couldnt they have done something similar with the big one is beyond me.

Because this guys are much smaller. The brothers will, by the look of it, be on 160 mm bases. I expect the Stormdrakes to be Varanguard size.

Nah, for example Archaon mount is huge, has a fat body and limbs in comparison yet that kit is packed with dynamic.That kit is old too.

 Tarvitz77 wrote:
I feel like there must be something wrong with my eyes because I feel like the stormcasts look too big to be riding the dragons.

I must admit that my first thought on seeing how big the storm cast riders were compared to the dragons meant that my spare high elf dragon rider would look great on it.

I think that another problem with the riders is that they are stiff as hell. Gw already showed that they can make rider dynamic and look like they are in motion. Wonder why they didn't go it for these

I think they are not so much stiff as conveying a sense of power and might. Plus they appear to be in more of a "heroic pose" as opposed to battle charging pose (least a couple of them).

I think its different to say the blissbarb riders where they are clearly going for an action battle pose and an elfish (warped) sense of agility.

Stormcast aren't elves, they aren't dancing on their mounts, they are solid and stoic.


I'm sure if GW re-did the green dragon for Sylvaneth (old Wood Elves) there'd be a pair of dragon surfing aelves atop

Wanderers are the "old Wood Elves".

Sylvaneth are just the Forest Spirits chucked out of the list.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

Cronch wrote:
Nice dragons, but the fat tincans on top of them will cause some spinal damage for sure.
I wish the dragons were more of "allied species/dragon soldiers" vs "smart horses with big teeth" thing...

War Horses could carry a fully armoured knight, and they’re much daintier than any Dragon of at least directly comparable size.

Different animals have different weight-carrying capacity, and flying animals aren't well known for carrying any sort of weights. As it's a fantastic creature laws of biology clearly dont apply, but the riders look too big and chunky for the size of the baby dragons to me. I never liked the tiny hawks the elves sat on taking 1/2 of their backs either if that helps.

I believe the pallador riders will look much better in this dragons instead of this riders.

 Platuan4th wrote:

Quasistellar wrote:
Also, it's probably too much to hope, but I'd love it if the saddle wasn't integrated into the dragon, mould-wise. Would open the door to more options for conversions.

I hope the same, but mostly cause I want a dragon army, not a "dudes on dragons" army.

Mostly the same- I'd love some nice dragons for RPG purposes. Saddles and Sigmarines don't fit.

Don't necessarily mind dragon-riders here or there, but gimme some lithe, unarmored techno-barbarians if you're going to go that route.

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Also, impaling them in the gut with a cloudy, curved spike does the model _no_ favors.

Cronch wrote:
Different animals have different weight-carrying capacity, and flying animals aren't well known for carrying any sort of weights.

Well, there are Swallows that carry coconuts...

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

Cronch wrote:
Nice dragons, but the fat tincans on top of them will cause some spinal damage for sure.
I wish the dragons were more of "allied species/dragon soldiers" vs "smart horses with big teeth" thing...

War Horses could carry a fully armoured knight, and they’re much daintier than any Dragon of at least directly comparable size.

Knights aren't like 8-9 foot tall super humans though

And dragons aren't horses.

I still have my fingers crossed for some more Kruleboyz releases (Wolf, Gnashtoof or vulture riders please!) but time is quickly ticking away on those being revealed. If they stick to the August release stated earlier by Warcom we only have the 21st or 28th of the month for them to be released, assuming that we get all the new stuff released at once.