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I'll take T-Pose over Arms Forward McShrugShoulders anyday.

Peeps taking offense over fictional elves using the same symbol to indicate a heart as we do, that's a new one.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Peeps taking offense over fictional elves using the same symbol to indicate a heart as we do, that's a new one.

And all this started 'cause I thought a T-pose model was silly.

Dok got oddly wide ally list in new book including lumineth. Guess gw ignores their own fluff

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Peeps taking offense over fictional elves using the same symbol to indicate a heart as we do, that's a new one.

And all this started 'cause I thought a T-pose model was silly.

It's alright. We learned that Daughters of Khaine like upside down testicles so much that they put them on the statue of their god. That's worth something, right?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Peeps taking offense over fictional elves using the same symbol to indicate a heart as we do, that's a new one.

And all this started 'cause I thought a T-pose model was silly.

And really it is, but that's just a result of something originally sculpted as a static monument being re-fluffed as an animate construct.


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 Geifer wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Peeps taking offense over fictional elves using the same symbol to indicate a heart as we do, that's a new one.

And all this started 'cause I thought a T-pose model was silly.

It's alright. We learned that Daughters of Khaine like upside down testicles so much that they put them on the statue of their god. That's worth something, right?

I for one trust some random guy on a forum to accurately know and relay historical symbology

There's picture of lumineth battletome cover with 3rd ed style top. Supposedly honest wargamer showed that.

Dunno if real and dunno where honest wargamer is supposedly have got that but if true indicates fall order book would be the last order faction without any update for 3rd ed so far.

I saw an image of it (not sure if it’s the same one) but it looks photoshopped the AoS 3 heading doesn’t line up in the top right corner but it might just be the angle.

Also the Nethermaze Shadeborn aren’t in the DoK book (no points lists on the pitched battle profiles)

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Peeps taking offense over fictional elves using the same symbol to indicate a heart as we do, that's a new one.

Deliberately mischaracterising an opinion you don’t agree with as “offence” in order to try to discredit it … sadly, that’s not a new one.

Fifteen elf battletomes and we haven't even seen a proper dark elf yet.

 MonkeyBallistic wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Peeps taking offense over fictional elves using the same symbol to indicate a heart as we do, that's a new one.

Deliberately mischaracterising an opinion you don’t agree with as “offence” in order to try to discredit it … sadly, that’s not a new one.

How would you characterise it? I just can't think of an angle in which that criticism makes sense, but I am willing to be convinced.


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JSG wrote:
Fifteen elf battletomes and we haven't even seen a proper dark elf yet.

What is your definition of 'proper dark elf'? Honest question, and I do see your point regardless.

NinthMusketeer wrote:What is your definition of 'proper dark elf'? Honest question, and I do see your point regardless.

I will restrain myself, because i don't want to cause any actual trouble or animosity, but the temptation to post ridiculous images "answering" this question (that wasn't to me at all) is terribly, terribly strong.

I dunno, some well intended humor helps to lighten the general mood around here

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Peeps taking offense over fictional elves using the same symbol to indicate a heart as we do, that's a new one.

And all this started 'cause I thought a T-pose model was silly.

And really it is, but that's just a result of something originally sculpted as a static monument being re-fluffed as an animate construct.


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 Geifer wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Peeps taking offense over fictional elves using the same symbol to indicate a heart as we do, that's a new one.

And all this started 'cause I thought a T-pose model was silly.

It's alright. We learned that Daughters of Khaine like upside down testicles so much that they put them on the statue of their god. That's worth something, right?

I for one trust some random guy on a forum to accurately know and relay historical symbology

Its not hard to do research, but by all means make an effort not to learn things today.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
I dunno, some well intended humor helps to lighten the general mood around here

I would, but my google searches for "elf batman" did not return anything good

Sunday preview - Sylvaneth and Skaven clash in next weeks pre-orders

Echoes of Doom is available for pre-order next week. I don't technically collect either army, but I have Skaven and Sylvaneth leftovers from Spire of Dawn, Looncurse and Carrion Empire boxed sets and this would expand nicely on those...

jullevi wrote:
Sunday preview - Sylvaneth and Skaven clash in next weeks pre-orders

Echoes of Doom is available for pre-order next week. I don't technically collect either army, but I have Skaven and Sylvaneth leftovers from Spire of Dawn, Looncurse and Carrion Empire boxed sets and this would expand nicely on those...

Good stuff! Anyone speculate as to what the price tag on that one might be? If it's the same as the last battlebox at £115 then it's tempting enough to pick up through a third party... That said, some large and very new and shiny kits in there which leads me to believe it'll be closer to the £130 mark.

Ebay is going to be interesting no matter the outcome!

Those Clanrats look really weird to me.
Super flat.

Arena of Shades was priced at 115 GBP/150 EUR/195 USD, so I expect this to be the same.

 dan2026 wrote:
Those Clanrats look really weird to me.
Super flat.

They're the same Clanrats as the past decade+.

Voss wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Peeps taking offense over fictional elves using the same symbol to indicate a heart as we do, that's a new one.

And all this started 'cause I thought a T-pose model was silly.

And really it is, but that's just a result of something originally sculpted as a static monument being re-fluffed as an animate construct.


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 Geifer wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Peeps taking offense over fictional elves using the same symbol to indicate a heart as we do, that's a new one.

And all this started 'cause I thought a T-pose model was silly.

It's alright. We learned that Daughters of Khaine like upside down testicles so much that they put them on the statue of their god. That's worth something, right?

I for one trust some random guy on a forum to accurately know and relay historical symbology

Its not hard to do research, but by all means make an effort not to learn things today.

I did, actually. I just didn't feel it was relevant to come back and post that you were wrong.

I mean, Daughters of Khaine are a matriarchal society and Morathi made all male aelves weak and made to serve as a slave caste. So does them worshipping a god holding a bloody pair of gonads seem off brand to you? No?

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JSG wrote:
Fifteen elf battletomes and we haven't even seen a proper dark elf yet.

What is your definition of 'proper dark elf'? Honest question, and I do see your point regardless.

Ones that work for Malerion not his mum.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 MonkeyBallistic wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Peeps taking offense over fictional elves using the same symbol to indicate a heart as we do, that's a new one.

Deliberately mischaracterising an opinion you don’t agree with as “offence” in order to try to discredit it … sadly, that’s not a new one.

How would you characterise it? I just can't think of an angle in which that criticism makes sense, but I am willing to be convinced.

Maybe characterise it as somebody not liking it, or not thinking it makes sense to them or thinking something else would be preferable? You know, something less histrionic that doesn’t implicitly accuse the that person’s opinion of being somehow hysterical or irrational just because you don’t agree with it.

Hm, I see 'offended' and 'hysterical' as very far apart. The former being relatively mild, the latter severe. At any rate in my view the phrases "stupid Valentine's day heart" and "the need for 20th century folks to sanitize everything before its smeared all over holidays" don't seem to come from a particularly rational angle.


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JSG wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
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JSG wrote:
Fifteen elf battletomes and we haven't even seen a proper dark elf yet.

What is your definition of 'proper dark elf'? Honest question, and I do see your point regardless.

Ones that work for Malerion not his mum.

Ah, I see. I'm expecting them this edition, but not this year.

Echoes of Doom £115 €150 $190
Warcry Darkoath Savagers £35 €45 $60
Warcry Tarantulos Brood £35 €45 $60
Ravaged Lands Pit Dredgers Camp £67.50 €87.50 $112
Ravaged Lands Varanite Syphon Camp £67.50 €87.50 $112

US prices based on current GW online store pricing.

 DaveC wrote:

Darkoath Savagers £35 €45 $60
Tarantulos Brood £35 €45 $60

Nice ! Any reason they are 10€ cheaper then all the other cultists ?

Getting only 1 set instead of 2. Ie big price hike

Yep these are Warcry Warbands (10/13 minis) including cards not the AoS S2D double boxes (20/26 minis). They are the same price as the most recent Warcry specific warbands.

AoS warscrolls if anyone missed them.
Darkoath Savagers Warscroll
Tarantulos Brood Warscroll

 DreadfullyHopeful wrote:

 DaveC wrote:

Darkoath Savagers £35 €45 $60
Tarantulos Brood £35 €45 $60

Nice ! Any reason they are 10€ cheaper then all the other cultists ?

These are the Warcry versions, with the cards. Single set of sprues, not the double box without cards for AoS. Same price as the Shadowstalkers and Scions of the Flame