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chaos0xomega wrote:
So we aren't expecting squats as the opponent here? Even though the first preview video for the squats was basically the same setup as the preview for this kill team set?

Kasrkin vs Leagues of Votann is entirely reasonable

 judgedoug wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
So we aren't expecting squats as the opponent here? Even though the first preview video for the squats was basically the same setup as the preview for this kill team set?

Kasrkin vs Leagues of Votann is entirely reasonable

Unless the theories/speculation about the bases is true--nothing we've seen for the Leagues yet have used the same base as the Kasrkin/CAT.

There's still two more rumoured Regiments to come in plastic. Elysians could fit into this space, as they ran interdiction/boarding operations in their sector.

 Kanluwen wrote:
I'm not reading a whole lot into the Ecclesiarchal logo, outside of the CAT being "blessed" for whatever operation it's being used in.

ACTUALLY!

Are there any known "super pious" regiments right now? I can't think of one off the top of my head. I could see the CAT potentially being from a regiment that's sided more with the "human" side of the Ecclesiarchy compared to the "machine" side of the AdMech.

Tallarns get characterised as pretty pious, especially but the Cain books.

 The Phazer wrote:
Actually, the more I look at it the more I think that's an Ecclesiarchy logo rather than an Inquisition one.

Was just gonna say this, but that would be odd considering we already got a sisters KT release.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 judgedoug wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
So we aren't expecting squats as the opponent here? Even though the first preview video for the squats was basically the same setup as the preview for this kill team set?

Kasrkin vs Leagues of Votann is entirely reasonable

Unless the theories/speculation about the bases is true--nothing we've seen for the Leagues yet have used the same base as the Kasrkin/CAT.

There's still two more rumoured Regiments to come in plastic. Elysians could fit into this space, as they ran interdiction/boarding operations in their sector.

Why would there be be a kill team box of Karskins vs Elysians?

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Perhaps the Karskins are a dual kit with Stormtroopers or such?

Don't give me hope :(

Is there anything to indicate that this isn't a soft-reboot of Space Hulk within the Kill Team ecosphere? Because I would be down for that.

I would be down for either. I would *love* to get properly proportioned Indomitus terminator armor.

Art that portrays that armor always looks awesome, but then I see the models and just sigh.

That would actually be a pretty good idea for a kill team, now that I think about it. Pretty good way to sneak in a classic model upgrade (that isn't Primaris) and add some new options. Standard loyalist indomitus terminators aren't exactly. . . good, and haven't been for as long as I'm aware.

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

Why would there be be a kill team box of Karskins vs Elysians?

Why would there be a kill team box of Kasrkins vs League of Votann?

If you all want to latch onto the basing bits as evidence of the Kasrkin being present, remember that none of the so far seen items for the League have featured the same basing setup.


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 Flinty wrote:

Tallarns get characterised as pretty pious, especially but the Cain books.

That's actually kind of interesting to note, as there is art of a redesigned Tallarn aesthetic in the Kill-Team book.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

Why would there be be a kill team box of Karskins vs Elysians?

Why would there be a kill team box of Kasrkins vs League of Votann?

If you all want to latch onto the basing bits as evidence of the Kasrkin being present, remember that none of the so far seen items for the League have featured the same basing setup.

I think he means from a fluff perspective. Plus wasn't the Kasrkin revealed early due to a leak? No reason there couldn't be a Votann unit in the pipeline we haven't seen that starts as a KT release (although I don't actually think that's what we'll see with *this* particular release).

Quasistellar wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

Why would there be be a kill team box of Karskins vs Elysians?

Why would there be a kill team box of Kasrkins vs League of Votann?

If you all want to latch onto the basing bits as evidence of the Kasrkin being present, remember that none of the so far seen items for the League have featured the same basing setup.

I think he means from a fluff perspective.

It's blatantly obvious that I was suggesting the Elysians would be in rather than Kasrkin. This is standard fare for the poster in question.

Plus wasn't the Kasrkin revealed early due to a leak? No reason there couldn't be a Votann unit in the pipeline we haven't seen that starts as a KT release (although I don't actually think that's what we'll see with *this* particular release).

The image with the Kasrkin was not from a KT item. The leaked image is exactly what GW posted. It featured Ursula Creed, the new Sentinel kit, the new Commissar Lord, the new Heavy Weapons Squad, and the new Cadian Shock Troop kits.

Quasistellar wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

Why would there be be a kill team box of Karskins vs Elysians?

Why would there be a kill team box of Kasrkins vs League of Votann?

If you all want to latch onto the basing bits as evidence of the Kasrkin being present, remember that none of the so far seen items for the League have featured the same basing setup.

I think he means from a fluff perspective. Plus wasn't the Kasrkin revealed early due to a leak? No reason there couldn't be a Votann unit in the pipeline we haven't seen that starts as a KT release (although I don't actually think that's what we'll see with *this* particular release).

Not only it'd be a bit iffy from a fluff perspective, it would just be weird in comparasion to the previous boxes, given they all were pitting two units from two vastly different and opposing factions against each other, like Orks and Krieg or SoBs and T'au. It'd just seem funky to do an Imperium vs Imperium box

good thing I literally never said anything about it being an "imperium v imperium" box, you just chose to read it as such.

Inquisiton vrs genestealer.

What if it’s a BSF style solo expansion? A kill team vs a box of monsters…

 The Phazer wrote:
Actually, the more I look at it the more I think that's an Ecclesiarchy logo rather than an Inquisition one.

Good point, could be the Kasrkin will be dual kit with Storm-trooper heads or something, and they add them to the Sister's book along with Ordo Hereticus Inquisitors. That would essentially be close to what the Witch Hunter book was.

My first thought was maybe it was an Imperial Navy symbol (which would be the most logical), but it is more like the Ecclesiarchy. I wonder if they mixed them up...?

 Chairman Aeon wrote:
What if it’s a BSF style solo expansion? A kill team vs a box of monsters…

That would definitely get me onboard Kill Team...

 Haighus wrote:
My first thought was maybe it was an Imperial Navy symbol (which would be the most logical), but it is more like the Ecclesiarchy. I wonder if they mixed them up...?

A group of Naval Security could be represented by the Kasrkin miniatures, so that would make a fair deal of sense.

Is the Kasrkin assertion based entirely on the similarity of the basing?

That seems tenuous.

The page mentions a space hulk. It has a picture of a C.A.T model, something that has previously only been used by Terminator squads in the Space Hulk game.

I think the only logical guess based on the evidence we have is Terminators vs Genestealers onboard a Space Hulk. That in itself is tenuous, but is at least based on things we have seen before.

 ekwatts wrote:
Is the Kasrkin assertion based entirely on the similarity of the basing?

Pretty much.

I can see them doing NuKasrkin vs Old Genestealers w/new hat as a boxed set.

As always with these KT things, it's all about the terrain: What new stuff are they about to give me us.

Were CAT units not also in Space Crusade?

I’m going to say kaskrin vs demons…
Just because I don’t think squats are getting a killteam set yet.. they got the necromunda treatment…I also think the 3 new guard regiments are catachan, Cadian, and dkok… Elysian is to far outside guard playstyle with a lot of drop troops.

I have nothing to base demons on except it’s due for a killteam and 40K release

And Catachans would be too with lots of infiltrators...

The "new Guard Regiments" bit was after the statement of the Cadians and after the DKoK were already announced.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 ekwatts wrote:
Is the Kasrkin assertion based entirely on the similarity of the basing?

Pretty much.

I can see them doing NuKasrkin vs Old Genestealers w/new hat as a boxed set.

As always with these KT things, it's all about the terrain: What new stuff are they about to give me us.

If your right the Ymgarl genestealers might get rules for both KT and 40K. But now I want to know what a genestealer medic looks like.

 ekwatts wrote:
Is there anything to indicate that this isn't a soft-reboot of Space Hulk within the Kill Team ecosphere? Because I would be down for that.

While I would LOVE for this to happen, not seeing anything that points that way.

 judgedoug wrote:
Were CAT units not also in Space Crusade?

Not in the MB game, no, but I'm not sure about Advanced Space Crusade.

Smaug wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 ekwatts wrote:
Is the Kasrkin assertion based entirely on the similarity of the basing?

Pretty much.

I can see them doing NuKasrkin vs Old Genestealers w/new hat as a boxed set.

As always with these KT things, it's all about the terrain: What new stuff are they about to give me us.

If your right the Ymgarl genestealers might get rules for both KT and 40K. But now I want to know what a genestealer medic looks like.

A nid team could be great in terms of the added biomorphs for the specialists! I think new Stealers would be possible as they would hit two armies at once with them - GSC as well as Nids. It would be nice to see them do something fresh with them and Ymgarl would be potentially nasty.

Chairman Aeon wrote:What if it’s a BSF style solo expansion? A kill team vs a box of monsters…

I did read a rumour on discord that the Nid element of SpaceHulk would be something other than Stealers- part of it would be Zoats... take with lots of salt obviously but this was mentioned last week, no idea if the poster has any credibility but I would certainly welcome so fresh new Nid Weirdness...Zoats would be a surprise!

The Kasrkin should be pretty much set for this. I can’t see any other reason why their bases were similar to the CAT‘s and different than the rest of the Cadians.

Their opponents? Tyranids aren‘t the only danger to be found in Space Hulks, it could well be other xenos (Orks) or chaos too (cultists?). Based on the other KT boxes, we might only get an existing unit, maybe with an upgrade sprue. Possibly both factions with some extra minis, like a character, the CAT obviously, etc.

I’m getting Rogue Trader vibes. Maybe the box comes with a story driven campaign for the 2 factions. I would also like to see a modular Environment with hallways etc.

My guess is on Gravis Deathwatch vs. Genestealers or Inquisitorial Retinue (we might get a Imperial Agents Codex or they are folded into IG) vs. Genestealers.

Anyway it's gonna be almost definitely Stealers and that is a massive let down. I mean yes, they need new models for ages now. But this will most likely not happen. It will be the Imperial side that gets the new kit and the Stealers that get the upgrade kit. But most importantly, this will replace the Hive Mind Kill Team and tbh. Stealers are absolutely boring to play in Kill Team. Personally I find them borderline useless. The Combination of 3 Warriors with Gaunts is much more interesting and flexible. And this section will be entirely dropped.

I'm just hoping that the terrain will be nice, I guess it's gonna be the Zone Mortalis set from Necromunda. Chances that they make entirely new terrain like in the starter box are sadly close to 0%.