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All of the kasrkin.

Best models gw ever cancelled.

I only have 70 of them! Nowhere near enough!

That's a nice bunch of them, Deadnight - converted the Sergeants to get some variety, and/or to make Officers?

Deadnight wrote:
All of the kasrkin.

Best models gw ever cancelled.

I only have 70 of them! Nowhere near enough!

Those were pretty good models really. Not sure why they got cancelled.

Scuttlebutt is that they were considered too "Cadian" and they wanted to differentiate "Stormtroopers" from the regimental stuff when the 5E book dropped. Purportedly, the design work on Scions' models began around then.

I've had a couple over the years, from the top of my head here's a few:

Some I managed to acquire over time:

- The exclusive Empire Fire wizard from the army box. He never was that hard to find, but like a lot of things mentioned here, more often than not was just overpriced. Was just a matter of waiting for a good one, eventually got it but it took a while.

- Tyranids Armorcast monsters. Never had them back in the day, but really thought they were cool! When I got back in the game, and decided what to do with my army (ie; buy everything), I wanted them back again. Bought my first Exocrine at a relatively normal-high market price, but then found a lot of 3 different ones for cheap and managed to score them!


Some I wanted to get, or had a chance to get, but couldn't for whatever reason:

- Some unreleased Tomb Guards. Saw them on eBay at some point (during 7th or 8th edition, so TK were not the crazy stuff they are today) for "reasonable price" at the time (maybe 30$ a pop or something?). Nearly bough a bunch of them (even though I was suspicious they where "recast"), but ended up not to. They would just be cool conversation piece, no real regrets about it!

- Forgeworld Fantasy Elemental. Was not a big fan of the sculpt on both models originally (Fire and Beast elemental), but by the end of 8th edition we were all going bananas with monsters and units and armies (before the whole exploding thing), and I wanted them more and more. They had dissapeared from the FW store though, and barely popped up on eBay when I looked for them. Thankfully we are kinda out of Fantasy now because we never migrated to AoS, so I don't have any urge to hunt them now (still would like them as collection piece if anything).

 Kanluwen wrote:
Scuttlebutt is that they were considered too "Cadian" and they wanted to differentiate "Stormtroopers" from the regimental stuff when the 5E book dropped. Purportedly, the design work on Scions' models began around then.

Then again the Stormies in the 5th Ed book were already distinct enough, plastic version of those would have worked well.

Deadnight wrote:
All of the kasrkin.

Best models gw ever cancelled.

I only have 70 of them! Nowhere near enough!

I know the feeling!

I can barely muster 100 2nd edition Cadians and around 70 Arbites!

Oh the shame...

For the longest time my white whale was an AT-43 mini, the Succubus Golgoth walker. It was a rare release for the Therian faction that never saw much distribution given how quickly Rackham folded after it was released:



Eventually found someone selling two of them on eBay. It was not cheap, but I got 'em.

 Ouze wrote:
Those were pretty good models really. Not sure why they got cancelled.

Just part of the sweeping metal model culls around 5th and 6th edition.

 Bobthehero wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Scuttlebutt is that they were considered too "Cadian" and they wanted to differentiate "Stormtroopers" from the regimental stuff when the 5E book dropped. Purportedly, the design work on Scions' models began around then.

Then again the Stormies in the 5th Ed book were already distinct enough, plastic version of those would have worked well.

The current Scions aren't bad models, they just need a second weapon option and to be 10 to a box.

I always saw them as Empire put into 40k.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 Bobthehero wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Scuttlebutt is that they were considered too "Cadian" and they wanted to differentiate "Stormtroopers" from the regimental stuff when the 5E book dropped. Purportedly, the design work on Scions' models began around then.

Then again the Stormies in the 5th Ed book were already distinct enough, plastic version of those would have worked well.

The current Scions aren't bad models, they just need a second weapon option and to be 10 to a box.

Not saying otherwise, I just really like the metal Stormies

 Knockagh wrote:
Eldar battle fleet gothic, entire fleet

Are you saying it has to be a whole fleet, or that you want the minis if we have them?

I love the kasrkin, and I have a ton of them, but I think I know why they were cut. GW had stated around tat time that they wanted to increase the gothic/imperium weirdness in the IG. Hence bringing back sanctioned psykers and priests. Kasrkin, while delightful, are arguably the most “near future” sci fi models in 40k. Most regiments, with the very notable exception of the vostroyans which cane out not too long after, are pseudo historical. Nothing looks super gothic.

Oddly, while caving in to demand and making plastic Krieg was a very savvy move, in a way it’s actually a step back. Even though krieg aren’t actually historical, they feel very grounded in verdun and Stalingrad.

If anyone is coming into this thread and lusting after Kasrkin, by the way, I think Pig Iron's heavy infantry will scratch the same itch if you would be satisfied by a proxy.

 Polonius wrote:
I love the kasrkin, and I have a ton of them, but I think I know why they were cut. GW had stated around tat time that they wanted to increase the gothic/imperium weirdness in the IG. Hence bringing back sanctioned psykers and priests. Kasrkin, while delightful, are arguably the most “near future” sci fi models in 40k. Most regiments, with the very notable exception of the vostroyans which cane out not too long after, are pseudo historical. Nothing looks super gothic.

Oddly, while caving in to demand and making plastic Krieg was a very savvy move, in a way it’s actually a step back. Even though krieg aren’t actually historical, they feel very grounded in verdun and Stalingrad.

They are historical, they are Belgian troops. The greatcoats and helmets are pure Belgian.

Adding another White Whale to my long list: The Clan Skryre Rat Ogre for Mordheim.

Why? Because years before Mordheim ever came out, there was a Skaven mini-expansion for classic Warhammer Quest, published in White Dwarf. It was quite detailed and was probably salvaged from a cancelled boxed Skaven expansion. One of the special character models you needed to play the White Dwarf adventures was a 'Rat Golem', a unique steampunkified Rat Ogre that acted more like a deranged machine than a living thing. At the time, no such model existed and players were encouraged to convert their own.

But... has there ever been a more perfect Rat Golem than this guy from Mordheim?



I'm making do with a regular old Rat Ogre with wires stuck on. One day, though... one day...


With the recent return of HeroQuest, the other one I recently remembered isn't so much a White Whale as a Sea Serpent or a Kraken. Semi-mythical, lost to time and probably nonexistent. Bear with me...

Back when the original HeroQuest was released, one of the UK expansions was the 'Adventure Design Kit'. It came with blank maps and stickers so that you could make professional-looking versions of homebrew Quests (instead of the ones we kids scribbled on photocopies back then). On the back of the box was a photo of an example Quest you could make using the stickers. It was called 'The Plague of Zombies'.

Curiously enough, it wasn't just a bunch of stickers randomly stuck on a map by a marketing team. It was an actual playable Quest, with logical room and door layouts, notes about treasure chests, and so on.

Unfortunately, since it was meant to showcase a work-in-progress adventure, the map was incomplete and the last couple of Quest Notes were blank. It was almost a bonus official adventure... but not quite. Most importantly, the final showdown with the boss monster was left out.

However... in a promotional flyer that came with some other HeroQuest products, there was a small photo advertising the Adventure Design Kit. And that photo showed an apparently complete 'Plague of Zombies' Quest with all the missing information filled in.

Of course, the photo was too small for the text to be legible.

Somewhere, somewhen, a designer on the original HeroQuest came up with a complete Quest that was never released, then stripped it back to 'incomplete' form for a photo. What was in the original? Someday, somehow, I still hold out hope that it will turn up in a filing cabinet or desk and this ancient mystery will be solved. And there will be much rejoicing. By me and about six other people who care.

(Incidentally, I've tried actually playing the existing portion of 'The Plague of Zombies' and it's an insanely hard slog with a ridiculous special gimmick. Just the sort of thing a ten-year-old kid would come up with. Well done to the designer. )

 Ouze wrote:
If anyone is coming into this thread and lusting after Kasrkin, by the way, I think Pig Iron's heavy infantry will scratch the same itch if you would be satisfied by a proxy.

Spellcrow in the UK also do a decent grimdark special forces unit.

https://www.spellcrow.com/guards-c-9_35.html

For me the only white whale stuff would be things I missed from later editions of Fantasy that I never picked up because I wasn't in the hobby.

So at some point I want to pick up the new High Elf dragon. And the plastic mage/ noble kit. It bothers me that the dark elf dragon lord kit is still for sale on the GW website but the High Elf one isn't.

+1 for the Kasrkin

I have all of the other models I could want

Lucius Warhound, FW Fortress, Zone Mortalis Xeno Dissection Table...

For me it is the Aquila Strongpoint, and also strangely enough the crashed Aquila lander terrain from the one starter set.

Dirk Reinecke wrote:
For me it is the Aquila Strongpoint, and also strangely enough the crashed Aquila lander terrain from the one starter set.

I think I or a friend of mine have one of those crashed Aquila landers around somewhere in a terrain box, if you wanted to buy it

That Aquila Strongpoint goes for ludicrous prices on eBay.

Dirk Reinecke wrote:
For me it is the Aquila Strongpoint, and also strangely enough the crashed Aquila lander terrain from the one starter set.

I'm honestly shocked there's not millions of those around. I'm also shocked that set doesn't go for stupid cheap in the aftermarket given how limited the model count is, terrain notwithstanding.

It wasn't around very long, so there wouldn't be many of them out there. And what's out there is highly sought after.

Supply and demand in action.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
It wasn't around very long, so there wouldn't be many of them out there. And what's out there is highly sought after.

Supply and demand in action.

But it wasn't highly sought after. The net was full of bitching and moaning as to the contents of that box. Not sure if that somehow miraculously changed and those monopose models became the envy of all players.

Once, long ago, I had the Citadel Dragon Masters set to go along with all the Melniboneans I had managed to acquire. I traded away the dragon and the riders (I still have the horse), and still regret doing so to this day.

Couple of additional things I'd like to get my hands on....

Space Crusade. I've got Advanced Space Crusade, but I never did have the original Space Crusade - we got Heroquest instead. Would love to get my hands on an original copy.

Mutant Chronicles Siege of the Citadel board game. I had this a long time ago, but the models were atrocious, "not GW level quality". I was a fool getting rid of the game, it was fun and had some interesting pvp within its co-op play.

Dark Future. At the time this carmageddon game from GW came out, I was into Car Wars and Dark Future looked too "lite" of a game in comparison to the simulationism (or so it seemed) of Car Wars. I wish I'd picked Dark Future up.

CragHack wrote:Lucius Warhound, FW Fortress, Zone Mortalis Xeno Dissection Table...

The FW fortress is probably the only grail thing I want.