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Poisonous Kroot Headhunter





Quick Question:

I was playing a game yesterday where my opponent was using Mortarion. He was in combat a couple times with a squad and a character at the same time and tried to select defferent weapon profiles for the attacks he split between each. Reaping Scythe for his 3 attacks assigned against the infantry, and Evercerating Blow for his 4 attacks assigned against the character. Is this allowed? I thought all the attacks had to be one profile or the other?

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Remember that you make attacks one at a time.

Mortarion has a weapon called Silence, the rules for Silence say "Each time an attack is made with this weapon, select one of the profiles below to make that attack with."

So he has to declare where his attacks are going before attacks are made, but once attacks start to be made they are done one at a time.

In your situation, Mortarion declares 3 attacks against unit 1 (The Squad), and 4 attacks against unit 2 (The Character). He starts to roll for the attacks declared against unit one, and with the first attack he selects the Reaping Scythe profile, as "Silence" instructs him to do so. After that attack is resolved, he makes the second attack against Unit 1 selecting a profile to use for "Silence" and so on.

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 DeathReaper wrote:
Remember that you make attacks one at a time.


Hmm, okay, so rolling them all at once is just for expedience. Okay.

So by that logic, if you are firing a Plasma Weapon that has multiple profiles (overcharged/standard) can you designate some shots as overcharged and some as not if you wanted to? That was my (and others that were there reasoning why you couldn't as I'm pretty sure you can't do this.)

Or is it that there is a difference between how shooting and melee are handled? If so, where would I find this in the rules for this stated as the core book was phrased in a way that seemed really open to interpretation when we consulted it.

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Ranged weapons work differently.

See page 15 in the PDF rules under "Select targets" it had the exact rule about this for ranged weapons.

For Melee weapons the rules for selecting a profile are on P. 22 in the PDF rules, unsurprisingly, under "Select targets" has the rules for melee weapons. The "Select Weapon" section on that same page outlines selecting a profile for the attack with the melee weapon.

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 Tawnis wrote:
 DeathReaper wrote:
Remember that you make attacks one at a time.


Hmm, okay, so rolling them all at once is just for expedience. Okay.

So by that logic, if you are firing a Plasma Weapon that has multiple profiles (overcharged/standard) can you designate some shots as overcharged and some as not if you wanted to? That was my (and others that were there reasoning why you couldn't as I'm pretty sure you can't do this.)

Or is it that there is a difference between how shooting and melee are handled? If so, where would I find this in the rules for this stated as the core book was phrased in a way that seemed really open to interpretation when we consulted it.


The specific wording for the particular weapons determines how they work. The lack of USRs can mean there are very similar rules that are resolved differently.

Compare:
Macro plasma incinerator
Before selecting targets, select one of the profiles below to make attacks with
Versus
Silence
Each time an attack is made with this weapon, select one of the profiles below to make that attack with.
   
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 Tawnis wrote:
So by that logic, if you are firing a Plasma Weapon that has multiple profiles (overcharged/standard) can you designate some shots as overcharged and some as not if you wanted to? That was my (and others that were there reasoning why you couldn't as I'm pretty sure you can't do this.)

The reason you can't do this with most plasma weapons is due to the wording of their rules (e.g., from the plasma gun profile):

Before selecting targets, select one of the profiles below to make attacks with.

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Thanks everyone, much appreciated!

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