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So i own a spesific themed 3rd edition german late war force and i was wondering if it can in its whole be used in the current edition, as i have not payed attension to FoW since 3rd edition.

The force is german, taken from the Desperate Measures book. it is a 1750p Panzer Ausbildungs Abteilung 500. What seperated this from any other german tank force is it was a tank driving school that allso served as a reserve combat force. A sutch the morale and skill level was lower then any normal heavy tank platoon and they could not use the tiger ace special rule. In return they could use a large amount of outdated tigers. (more tigers then russians could use is2s in their heavy tank forces, it became the germans version of russian tank horde)

My force is 1750p and in it i have 2 engineering troops with transport, 2 panther A, 1 kingtiger porsche(hq), and 7 tiger 1 early.

So, does this list exist in the current edition, or is there any that is very, very clouse that lets me use either all the models or nearly all the models? (I understand there is a new point system in 4th, so i have no idea what 1750p would be in todays standards)

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Yes, you can definitely field a Tiger I Co. in Late War 4e.
And I'm sure you can get those Engineers & Panthers into the list. It might take some fiddling around & squeezing them into the support section. Or just running a 2nd detachment of some sort. But I'm pretty sure it can be done.
I'm not sure of the pts this would entail, but as several of the LW German/Axis books specifically mention lists for Tiger formations, a good chunk of this will fit into the standard 100pt lists.

The King Tiger? I don't think that's made a return yet for 4e. :( Looking through the FW site I don't even see the model listed anymore.

How to get lower skilled Tigers?
1) I don't know if you can do that in any of the actual German books. It might be an option in one of the decks of Command Cards. I know other forces have cards that modify stats to make specific units, so maybe? I just don't know all the German cards.
2) How do you feel about running your Tigers as Romanians rules-wise? Because in the Bagration: Axis-allies book it allows you to play a Romanian Tiger Co. And they can use Panthers. I can't imagine that the Romanians moral/skill stats are as good as actual Germans.
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Hope that helps & you can get your tanks back on the table.
   
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Thank you. You mentioned several late wars Axis books, could you recommend one that would suit the models i have in addition to Bagration?
I dont mind bying new stuff to fill in any gaps, but i would like to use as many of my resin/metal tanks as possible.

Yea the king tiger porsche was resin/metal single model blister since it was mid war material in 3rd edition.

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You don't have anything terribly special/obscure other than the King, so virtually any of these 4e LW books - Fortress Europe, D-Day: German, D-Day: Waffen SS, Bagration: German, & Bagration: Axis-allies, will work. They all have Tiger & Panther companies and infantry. And with how Divisional Support works you'll have no problem getting the Panthers in a list alongside the Tigers - assuming they aren't already on option in the main Tiger co. list
The only real differences would be in pts/skill-moral, and the exact # of slots each books formations has. Then it's just choosing wich book you think best represents your specific unit.
   
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King Tiger rules are coming in Bulge: Germany which is releasing about May I think...? Despite the title it's covering everything up to and including the Rhine Crossings, so there might be something in there for you list wise.

The German Berlin book will probably show up sometime in early 2023, although I don't think anything's been confirmed yet.

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Tanks folks.

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