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96PL 9CP 2000 points

Vanguard Detach -

Belial
Strikemaster (Terminator Lieutenant)

Deathwing Terminator Squad Sgt (1SB/PS, 3SB/PF, 1AC/PF

Deathwing Terminator Squad (2 TH/SS, 3 LC/LC)

Deathwing Terminator Squad (2 TH/SS, 3 LC/LC)

Deathwing Apothecary

Outrider Detach

Sammael
Talonmaster (Ravenwing Speeder Lieutenant)

Ravenwing Black Knights x5 all with Corvus Hammers
Ravenwing Apothecary

Outrider Squad x3
Outrider Squad x3
Outrider Squad x3

Everything but the characters and the Black Knights are ObSec. All of the DA Secondaries scream out pick me pick me for this list - at least to me. Park some Termies with storm shields on the biggest pain in the butt objective for your opponent and collect an easy 15. Or go bash the other guy's warlord with Hit N Run Sammael and/or some Terminators. Or run roughshod with the Ravenwing.

The Plasma Talons are going to have to do a lot of elites/vehicle work in an eggs all in one basket approach I'm not particularly happy with. Truth be told, I'd love to dump them for something else ObSec or more reliably anti-tank - alas that is the hole for double wing. When the only tool you have is a Thunderhammer... I'm not fond of the lieutenants either really But I like rerolling wound rolls better than anything I could really replace them with. At least that I thought of. Maybe regular bike squads. I miss the Ravenwing Attack Squad of old. That thing was genius. 6 bikes, an attack bike, and a land speeder variant. 10 dudes, its own combat squad rule. I had some Hailstrikes in there for a while as they put out a LOT of shots. I could be tempted back into those. I think there's some potential here but I don't think I found it. I'm close but not there. Anyone have ideas?

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2022/01/17 08:15:14


My WHFB armies were Bretonians and Tomb Kings. 
   
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My dual wing list cuts back on the characters. I only have Sammael, Talonmaster and Chief Ravenwing Apothecary. I also have 2x3 Attack Bikes in addition to the Black Knights. You can mitigate obsec by giving the Talonmaster Rites of War warlord trait (or whatever the obsec obe is called). I also opted for 2x5 Incursors for early board control, move block etc.
   
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 bullyboy wrote:
My dual wing list cuts back on the characters. I only have Sammael, Talonmaster and Chief Ravenwing Apothecary. I also have 2x3 Attack Bikes in addition to the Black Knights. You can mitigate obsec by giving the Talonmaster Rites of War warlord trait (or whatever the obsec obe is called). I also opted for 2x5 Incursors for early board control, move block etc.


Well my Double Wing is Death and Raven, no green. Also I'm not worried about ObSec so much - in the matching Det (Outrider and Vanguard Dets) Outriders/Bikers (not Attack, Black Knight, ATVs and so on) and (Basic - i.e. mpt Knights or Command Squad) Terminators get ObSec, so I've got 24 fairly tough ObSec models. The shooting phase in general, and vs Monsters/tanks in particular is just a little weak I think. The "strongest" ranged I have is pretty much the plasma talons in the Black Knights. It might be worthwhile to add a Dark Talon and/orNephilim and/or two instead of something but it looks like that costs me both apothecaries and the black knights.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2022/01/18 04:30:32


My WHFB armies were Bretonians and Tomb Kings. 
   
 
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